why does Doc act like he is doing Celtics a favor

[badshar]

No, I expect him to do his job. Coach the players, teach the young ones, and develop the talent. Don't run our stars into the ground. And stop acting like he is being charitable to the organization. Act like you really want to be here for the long term or move to whatever dream job you long for, possibly the Lakers.

Frankly I think it is a slap to the organization that he has to weigh every year if he is coming back.

I doubt you have ever coached a basketball team. Even if you have, coaching a rec ball team is not the same as coaching a pro team.

Anyways, I don't expect you and others alike to think any different.

You people are the ones that would take Mike D'Antoni or Mike Brown just to satisfy your ego that Doc sucks.

He doesn't have to be coaching. He has so much money that he could spend a comfortable life without having to get a job. He WANTS to be here, that is why he comes back every year. Everyone wants to take some time off of their job and spend one with their family.

Now if you say that you don't ever want to take some time off, then I don't even know what to say. At that point, you're nothing but a Doc hater and are not thinking logically.

[badshar]

erik spolestra is a front ofr pay riley.....he is learning at best......we'll see what about doc...but I have seen enough out of him.....he is a background manager at best....not a coach.

Because you definitely know what goes around behind the scenes in the organization and what he actually does for this team.

Just because you saw him on TV and a few games at the Garden doesn't mean you automatically know what he is doing.

Calling him a "background manager at best....not a coach" is by far the stupidest thing I have heard. You definitely know what he does all day, right?

[Ogaju]

no worries, I just want a hungry coach that wants to be here. I am sure Doc wants to be with his family that is why he takes time off to see his son play when he should be earning his keep with the team. He should just leave since he does not need the money. He is fleecing the Celtics. We have zero player development. Maybe that is why even the most casual fan can call our plays when we have one shot to win the game. Here it comes the dreaded PP ISO.

[GreenFaith1819]

no worries, I just want a hungry coach that wants to be here. I am sure Doc wants to be with his family that is why he takes time off to see his son play when he should be earning his keep with the team. He should just leave since he does not need the money. He is fleecing the Celtics. We have zero player development. Maybe that is why even the most casual fan can call our plays when we have one shot to win the game. Here it comes the dreaded PP ISO.

For your Bolded part.....what about Avery Bradley (2nd team NBA Defensive Team)...Jeff Green (Now a full-time starter and leading scorer in the playoffs, plus a very bright future with this team...what about Rajon Rondo, who is perinially listed among the top 2-3 PGs when healthy?

I'd say Doc Rivers DOES develop his players..Celtics have a MUCH brighter future ahead of them than they did in perhaps the early 90's when Bird, McHale and Chief were heading out.

We are, IMO, blessed to have Glenn Doc Rivers as coach of the Boston Celtics, and if he goes anywhere else I will personally miss him, as I'm sure the players will, too - and whoever gets him will be getting a GEM of a coach and person.

[Boris Badenov]

No, I expect him to do his job. Coach the players, teach the young ones, and develop the talent.

In Doc's time he has developed Al Jefferson, Kendrick Perkins, Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley, Jared Sullinger and a host of other young players. Doc plays young guys with talent. That has been established beyond a doubt.

Don't run our stars into the ground.

This year Doc kept KG's and PP's minutes down and shut them down for long stretches at the end of the year. What else was he supposed to do?

And stop acting like he is being charitable to the organization. Act like you really want to be here for the long term or move to whatever dream job you long for, possibly the Lakers.

Frankly I think it is a slap to the organization that he has to weigh every year if he is coming back. Are there any other teams with this issue with their coach?

Whether you agree with it or not, Doc is widely regarded as one of the top coaches in the game. Good players get perks (e.g., KG's no-trade clause). So do good coaches.

One of the things Doc and Danny have agreed upon, as part of their working relationship, is that Danny gives Doc this freedom. It's a pretty minor thing, to be honest. Doc usually decides what he's going to do in relatively short order.

Danny's cool with it, as, seemingly, is everyone else in the Celtics organization. If this were causing trouble that would be one thing, but it's not.

What's your issue with it then?

[NocturnalRebel]

Kool, another Anti-Doc post. Is this tha same OP that tried putting asterisks on my Rockets championships just because Jordan was #45 when he came back to tha NBA?

And where has Doc shown that he's doing tha Celtics a favor because I don't see it. I think we're doing you tha favor by entertaining this post. But I see it as Doc returning to a job and a team he obviously loves coaching. And i'm glad he's back. If Doc wants to detox and take it one year at a time, I have no issue with that. Coaching is draining. Especially when you have a season like we had.

Despite how anyone feels about Doc, He's proved to be a great coach and one of tha most respected coaches in this league. Doc has once again chosen to coach tha Celtics over consistently being home with his family so his loyalty to this team isn't in question with me and I think he deserves more respect and appreciation than what he's given here on this board.

[ChainSmokingLikeDino]

give me a break
 

[thirstyboots18]

Stop sniping!  Your opinions of Doc may be fair game, but your opinion of other posters and their opinions are not.

[nickagneta]

Doc probably has a standing offer from ABC/ESPN or TNT for big money to come on as an analyst for millions of dollars a year. He is the heir apparent to coach Team USA if they decide to move on from Coach K and Doc would have half the teams in the league calling him to see if he wants to coach their teams if he didn't coach the Celtics.

Why does anyone think he would have these opportunities? Its because he is a darn fine coach. Players love him, GMs across the league respect him and he is a proven coaching commodity. He was Coach of the Year, a title winning coach, a great developer of young talent and one of the best managers of people in the game.

Do people think finding a coach with that type of resume and proven results is easy to find?

Until people on this site realize that the coaching you see on TV is only about 5% of an NBA head coach's job, we are going to get these types of threads.

[ItStaysYang]

by coaching. Is there any other team in the league that has to wonder whether its coach (under contract) is coming back?

Is this thread a joke? Are you angry or something?

[gar]

Coaching can make a different. Popovich is at another level. Jackson is one inspiring guy. Doc is above average, maybe part Jackson and part Popovich; but he is not an elite coach.

[BballTim]

Plus, lets not forget family is the most important thing in Doc's life. Money isn't a huge issue for him, he's been well compensated and I'm sure he's managed it well. For Doc it has to be a passion every year; and taking a year or two off between jobs is probably very appealing.

I don't think he's doing us a favor in his own mind, I think he's weighing his desires and coming to a decision. It's not like if Doc walked away he'd have to do penance as an assistant somewhere (like Lawrence Frank or Flip Saunders), Doc just has to say, 'Im ready to coach again, and take his pick of what will assuredly be over a dozen offers between college and pro teams.

[/b]

This is something I don't think people realize. There's a lot of Doc hatred on this board but if he were ever to hit the open market, the mans phone would ring for days. Must tell you something

I have seen many companies hire CEO's only to fire them later.....and coaches get fired all the time.....I think doc would be hired fast, and fired fast..in one season from most other teams. He only did somewhat good here because of KG.we all saw when kg was out, we went on a losing streak.kg runs this team....a guy like doug Collins did really good with very little players....doc never did better than his players.....

  We also saw the team finish strong without KG in 2009 and almost get to the conference finals.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

To be honest I'd rather have a proven champion, player respected and league wide respected coach "doing as a favor" than trying to find a replacement who's of lesser quality just for the idea of replacing Doc.

The only thing I hate about him is not playing the bigs, but Doc is a very good coach. He's a leader on the huddle and a guy the players trust. If he's "doing us a favor", I owe him some thank you's.

(But man! He has to play our bigs).

[badshar]

Stop sniping!  Your opinions of Doc may be fair game, but your opinion of other posters and their opinions are not.

Not sure who you are directing this to, but it should be pretty obvious that the user keeps repeating the same basis for his argument when he has repeatedly been proven wrong by multiple people?

[badshar]

To be honest I'd rather have a proven champion, player respected and league wide respected coach "doing as a favor" than trying to find a replacement who's of lesser quality just for the idea of replacing Doc.

The only thing I hate about him is not playing the bigs, but Doc is a very good coach. He's a leader on the huddle and a guy the players trust. If he's "doing us a favor", I owe him some thank you's.

(But man! He has to play our bigs).

I agree with everything except the "playing the bigs" part. He plays those bigs that are ready to contribute.
That is why Stiemsma, Sully and many others.