So where do you think Pierce is going? (if he does get traded)

[BleedGreen1989]

Lakers for Pau Gasol

Yup.

Paul Pierce/Brandon Bass

For

Pau Gasol/Steve Blake

I just don't see the point of that trade.

Not really In our long or short term plans. Would rather just keep and pay pierce.

Plus I really don't see danny trading Pierce to the lakers under almost any circumstance

It's obviously a win-now move. If Danny just did that trade, it would be a pretty dam good line up.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Garnett
Gasol

Also, I don't think it matters if its a rivalry or not. If it makes basketball sense I'm pretty sure Danny doesn't care about a team considered a rival who's not even in our conference. I'm sure a team like Miami or Chicago is different because they are direct competition.

[timobusa]

I hope he stays, but here's my crazy trade idea. Take note, CRAZY.

Paul Pierce
Courtney Lee
Avery Bradley

for

Manu Ginobilli
Kawhi Leonard
Danny Green

Obviously this is not gonna happen.

But a line up of

Rondo/T-will
Ginobilli/D.Green/Terry/Crawford
J.Green/Leonard
Sully/Bass
Garnett/Wilcox/Shavlik/free agent

would be cool

[indeedproceed]

I don't think GSW or Denver make much sense at all. They've both got very able long-term solutions at the 3, and any cap flexibility they can grant Pierce isn't going to get them far enough down to do anything special.

Golden State makes a lot of sense.  They are a likely tax-paying team who have a big contract for a useless player (Biedrins) and more money tied up in a player they don't need in Richard Jefferson.  The problem is that Biedrins has a ETO and Jefferson has a player option, which makes the timing of a trade a bit problematic.

A true blow it up trade would be Pierce and KG (if he agrees to waive his no-trade clause so he can head west with Pierce) for Biedrins, Jefferson, filler, and first-round picks, at least one of which is far enough in the future that it is likely to be available when PP/KG are gone from GS and the Warriors have a chance of sucking.

The reason why Golden State doesn't make sense is because even if you're considering Pierce a straight salary dump (as in, they're waiving him after unloading Jefferson and potentially Biedrins), who else is Golden State sending back?

They've got to resign Jarret Jack and Carl Landry. They'd love to unload Richard Jefferson and Andris Biedrins, but the Celtics would need someone back. The best Golden State seems to be offering are picks starting in 2015 at the earliest, and potentially Brandon Rush.

After the most successful playoff run in almost 40 years, who are they going to gamble on replacing? 

And last but not least, why would GSW possibly pay Pierce? They've got a player with the potential to be truly special in Harrison Barnes, but they're going to eat up his minutes in the least with Pierce at the 3? Just doesn't make sense.

[gpap]

Lakers for Pau Gasol

Yup.

Paul Pierce/Brandon Bass

For

Pau Gasol/Steve Blake

I just don't see the point of that trade.

Not really In our long or short term plans. Would rather just keep and pay pierce.

Plus I really don't see danny trading Pierce to the lakers under almost any circumstance

It's obviously a win-now move. If Danny just did that trade, it would be a pretty dam good line up.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Garnett
Gasol

Also, I don't think it matters if its a rivalry or not. If it makes basketball sense I'm pretty sure Danny doesn't care about a team considered a rival who's not even in our conference. I'm sure a team like Miami or Chicago is different because they are direct competition.

Couldn't agree more! To be honest with you, I'd actually be kinda surprised if the Lakers dealt Pau for Paul because LA's size has been their strong point the last few years.

[BleedGreen1989]

Lakers for Pau Gasol

Yup.

Paul Pierce/Brandon Bass

For

Pau Gasol/Steve Blake

I just don't see the point of that trade.

Not really In our long or short term plans. Would rather just keep and pay pierce.

Plus I really don't see danny trading Pierce to the lakers under almost any circumstance

It's obviously a win-now move. If Danny just did that trade, it would be a pretty dam good line up.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Garnett
Gasol

Also, I don't think it matters if its a rivalry or not. If it makes basketball sense I'm pretty sure Danny doesn't care about a team considered a rival who's not even in our conference. I'm sure a team like Miami or Chicago is different because they are direct competition.

Couldn't agree more! To be honest with you, I'd actually be kinda surprised if the Lakers dealt Pau for Paul because LA's size has been their strong point the last few years.

Yea but I'm not sure LA is sold in a front court consisting of Gasol/Howard.

I personally love Gasol regardless of if he's a Laker. Him at center would be great in the eastern conference, not a ton of competition at the position.

[pearljammer10]

Lakers for Pau Gasol

Yup.

Paul Pierce/Brandon Bass

For

Pau Gasol/Steve Blake

I just don't see the point of that trade.

Not really In our long or short term plans. Would rather just keep and pay pierce.

Plus I really don't see danny trading Pierce to the lakers under almost any circumstance

It's obviously a win-now move. If Danny just did that trade, it would be a pretty dam good line up.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Garnett
Gasol

Also, I don't think it matters if its a rivalry or not. If it makes basketball sense I'm pretty sure Danny doesn't care about a team considered a rival who's not even in our conference. I'm sure a team like Miami or Chicago is different because they are direct competition.

Couldn't agree more! To be honest with you, I'd actually be kinda surprised if the Lakers dealt Pau for Paul because LA's size has been their strong point the last few years.

 As much as I hate it, the fact of seeing Pierce leave, this trade does make complete basketball sense for us. Pierce gets to go home to play for his hometown favorite. Gasol gives us the legit center and size we need in the middle and we would get a good back up point in Blake. This allows Green more minutes and allows KG to play outside the paint where he likes to be, saving his body from wear and tear. Him and Gasol inside would look good even though it would be a slow front line.

Rondo/Blake
Bradley/Terry
Green/draft pick?
Garnett/Sully
Gasol/Wilcox?/Melo?

It gives us a one year win now window then Gasol has 19 million coming off the books.

[Evantime34]

Lakers for Pau Gasol

Yup.

Paul Pierce/Brandon Bass

For

Pau Gasol/Steve Blake

I just don't see the point of that trade.

Not really In our long or short term plans. Would rather just keep and pay pierce.

Plus I really don't see danny trading Pierce to the lakers under almost any circumstance

It's obviously a win-now move. If Danny just did that trade, it would be a pretty dam good line up.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Garnett
Gasol

Also, I don't think it matters if its a rivalry or not. If it makes basketball sense I'm pretty sure Danny doesn't care about a team considered a rival who's not even in our conference. I'm sure a team like Miami or Chicago is different because they are direct competition.

Couldn't agree more! To be honest with you, I'd actually be kinda surprised if the Lakers dealt Pau for Paul because LA's size has been their strong point the last few years.

I think if the Lakers trade for him it will be to cut him before his contract is fully guaranteed in order to free up space to go after Dwight and someone else.

[celtic -_- pride]

if pierce is traded KG will retire. the celtics wont get rid of paul as a salary dump. if there's no good young talent coming in return i dont think he goes. if he did i would like him to be on memphis just because thats my western conference team

[LooseCannon]

I don't think GSW or Denver make much sense at all. They've both got very able long-term solutions at the 3, and any cap flexibility they can grant Pierce isn't going to get them far enough down to do anything special.

Golden State makes a lot of sense.  They are a likely tax-paying team who have a big contract for a useless player (Biedrins) and more money tied up in a player they don't need in Richard Jefferson.  The problem is that Biedrins has a ETO and Jefferson has a player option, which makes the timing of a trade a bit problematic.

A true blow it up trade would be Pierce and KG (if he agrees to waive his no-trade clause so he can head west with Pierce) for Biedrins, Jefferson, filler, and first-round picks, at least one of which is far enough in the future that it is likely to be available when PP/KG are gone from GS and the Warriors have a chance of sucking.

The reason why Golden State doesn't make sense is because even if you're considering Pierce a straight salary dump (as in, they're waiving him after unloading Jefferson and potentially Biedrins), who else is Golden State sending back?

They've got to resign Jarret Jack and Carl Landry. They'd love to unload Richard Jefferson and Andris Biedrins, but the Celtics would need someone back. The best Golden State seems to be offering are picks starting in 2015 at the earliest, and potentially Brandon Rush.

After the most successful playoff run in almost 40 years, who are they going to gamble on replacing? 

And last but not least, why would GSW possibly pay Pierce? They've got a player with the potential to be truly special in Harrison Barnes, but they're going to eat up his minutes in the least with Pierce at the 3? Just doesn't make sense.

If I were the Celtics and wanted a full-on rebuild, I'd prefer draft picks starting in 2015 at the earliest to getting back a player like Brandon Rush or Carl Landry.  It would make some sense to have Pierce come off the bench and possibly play as a smallball 4 when other teams go small and David Lee's defense becomes a huge problem.

It is also possible that acquiring and waiving Pierce will put Golden State far enough below the apron to use the full MLE.

There are enough possibilities there that I could see Golden State and Boston having talks that would lead to seeking a third team that can facilitate the trade.

[Fafnir]

Lakers for Pau Gasol

Yup.

Paul Pierce/Brandon Bass

For

Pau Gasol/Steve Blake

I just don't see the point of that trade.

Not really In our long or short term plans. Would rather just keep and pay pierce.

Plus I really don't see danny trading Pierce to the lakers under almost any circumstance

It's obviously a win-now move. If Danny just did that trade, it would be a pretty dam good line up.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Garnett
Gasol

Also, I don't think it matters if its a rivalry or not. If it makes basketball sense I'm pretty sure Danny doesn't care about a team considered a rival who's not even in our conference. I'm sure a team like Miami or Chicago is different because they are direct competition.

Couldn't agree more! To be honest with you, I'd actually be kinda surprised if the Lakers dealt Pau for Paul because LA's size has been their strong point the last few years.

I think if the Lakers trade for him it will be to cut him before his contract is fully guaranteed in order to free up space to go after Dwight and someone else.

Doesn't work.

Kobe   $30
Howard $20
Nash   $9
MWP    $7.7
Blake  $3.5
Duhon  $3.75
Pierce $5

Thats 78.95 million already without roster charges for another couple million

Salary cap is 54 right? So even amnestying Kobe they'd still be at the cap essentially after roster charges.

If Pierce is traded for Gasol and then waived it will solely be to save ownership money.

[Evantime34]

Lakers for Pau Gasol

Yup.

Paul Pierce/Brandon Bass

For

Pau Gasol/Steve Blake

I just don't see the point of that trade.

Not really In our long or short term plans. Would rather just keep and pay pierce.

Plus I really don't see danny trading Pierce to the lakers under almost any circumstance

It's obviously a win-now move. If Danny just did that trade, it would be a pretty dam good line up.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Garnett
Gasol

Also, I don't think it matters if its a rivalry or not. If it makes basketball sense I'm pretty sure Danny doesn't care about a team considered a rival who's not even in our conference. I'm sure a team like Miami or Chicago is different because they are direct competition.

Couldn't agree more! To be honest with you, I'd actually be kinda surprised if the Lakers dealt Pau for Paul because LA's size has been their strong point the last few years.

I think if the Lakers trade for him it will be to cut him before his contract is fully guaranteed in order to free up space to go after Dwight and someone else.

Doesn't work.

Kobe   $30
Howard $20
Nash   $9
MWP    $7.7
Blake  $3.5
Duhon  $3.75
Pierce $5

Thats 78.95 million already without roster charges for another couple million

Salaray cap is 54 right? So even amnestying Kobe they'd still be at the cap essentially after roster charges.

Salary cap was 58 this year and it is projected to be 60 next year. If they were to go in that direction (assuming Dwight and Smith/Cp3 want to play for the Lakers) they would amnesty Kobe.

[BleedGreen1989]

Lakers for Pau Gasol

Yup.

Paul Pierce/Brandon Bass

For

Pau Gasol/Steve Blake

I just don't see the point of that trade.

Not really In our long or short term plans. Would rather just keep and pay pierce.

Plus I really don't see danny trading Pierce to the lakers under almost any circumstance

It's obviously a win-now move. If Danny just did that trade, it would be a pretty dam good line up.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Garnett
Gasol

Also, I don't think it matters if its a rivalry or not. If it makes basketball sense I'm pretty sure Danny doesn't care about a team considered a rival who's not even in our conference. I'm sure a team like Miami or Chicago is different because they are direct competition.

Couldn't agree more! To be honest with you, I'd actually be kinda surprised if the Lakers dealt Pau for Paul because LA's size has been their strong point the last few years.

I think if the Lakers trade for him it will be to cut him before his contract is fully guaranteed in order to free up space to go after Dwight and someone else.

Meh I think that may be the case if there was more talent on the free agent market but it's a pretty weak class. Also, Kobe isn't coming back until at least the end of the regular season or close to it. LA is also committed to Nash and Howard so they desperately need a wing scorer until Kobe comes back. Once Kobe returns he just plugs in at the SG position and LA goes to war with Nash/Kobe/Pierce/Bass/Howard

[Fafnir]

Salary cap was 58 this year and it is projected to be 60 next year. If they were to go in that direction (assuming Dwight and Smith/Cp3 want to play for the Lakers) they would amnesty Kobe.

Even if they did amnesty Kobe they'd be at 48.95 with all the salaries they currently have. But that's only 5 players. So with 7 roster charges of around 500k then they're at 52.45. So they'd have 7.55 in cap room.

Doesn't work to get an impact FA to pair with Dwight. They'd have 27.55 million worth of money to divide between Dwight and said FA. To little to divide between two high level guys.

[Evantime34]

Salary cap was 58 this year and it is projected to be 60 next year. If they were to go in that direction (assuming Dwight and Smith/Cp3 want to play for the Lakers) they would amnesty Kobe.

Even if they did amnesty Kobe they'd be at 48.95 with all the salaries they currently have. But that's only 5 players. So with 7 roster charges of around 500k then they're at 52.45. So they'd have 7.55 in cap room.

Doesn't work to get an impact FA to pair with Dwight. They'd have 27.55 million worth of money to divide between Dwight and said FA. To little to divide between two high level guys.

They could move other guys like Nash to teams with cap space. I'm not saying it's likely but I think if they deal Gasol it will be to make LA seem like the best option for Dwight.

Back to the topic I think LA is the least likely of the group listed earlier because trading for Pierce doesn't help bring back Dwight IMO

[gpap]

Lakers for Pau Gasol

Yup.

Paul Pierce/Brandon Bass

For

Pau Gasol/Steve Blake

I just don't see the point of that trade.

Not really In our long or short term plans. Would rather just keep and pay pierce.

Plus I really don't see danny trading Pierce to the lakers under almost any circumstance

It's obviously a win-now move. If Danny just did that trade, it would be a pretty dam good line up.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Garnett
Gasol

Also, I don't think it matters if its a rivalry or not. If it makes basketball sense I'm pretty sure Danny doesn't care about a team considered a rival who's not even in our conference. I'm sure a team like Miami or Chicago is different because they are direct competition.

Couldn't agree more! To be honest with you, I'd actually be kinda surprised if the Lakers dealt Pau for Paul because LA's size has been their strong point the last few years.

Yea but I'm not sure LA is sold in a front court consisting of Gasol/Howard.

I personally love Gasol regardless of if he's a Laker. Him at center would be great in the eastern conference, not a ton of competition at the position.

Yeah, I've also always been a Gasol fan (well except during the 2010 finals.) I think had the Celts struck out on landing KG in 2007, they would've gone after Gasol next.