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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2013, 06:30:00 PM »

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The main issue is that these guys all suck. That's why they can "be had." Pekovic is the only one worth his salt, and he's going to get paid for it.

Maybe we should target players other than garbage Centers? We aren't contending with one of the above mentioned, so might as well just shoot for "best available" anyone and start building from there, no?

I don't think Gortat or Varejao "suck."

Yeah, no... but they do.

Varejao plays 10 games per year.

The forum has been discussing Gortat for the past year as if he would be a difference-maker. The ship has sailed - he wouldn't have made a difference this year so, clearly, he won't next... and at 30, he's not a building block for the future.
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2013, 06:31:50 PM »

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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2013, 06:33:07 PM »

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The main issue is that these guys all suck. That's why they can "be had." Pekovic is the only one worth his salt, and he's going to get paid for it.

Maybe we should target players other than garbage Centers? We aren't contending with one of the above mentioned, so might as well just shoot for "best available" anyone and start building from there, no?

I don't think Gortat or Varejao "suck."

Yeah, no... but they do.

Varejao plays 10 games per year.

The forum has been discussing Gortat for the past year as if he would be a difference-maker. The ship has sailed - he wouldn't have made a difference this year so, clearly, he won't next... and at 30, he's not a building block for the future.

I'm with you in Varejao but if you think a skilled 7 footer couldn't help this team than you're dilusional
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2013, 06:41:43 PM »

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Gortat is not a good as some people are making him seem.  He does not make us a contender.  He averaged 11 and 8.5 on a horrible team.  No way i give up bradley and a 16th for him

Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2013, 06:48:35 PM »

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Gortat is not a good as some people are making him seem.  He does not make us a contender.  He averaged 11 and 8.5 on a horrible team.  No way i give up bradley and a 16th for him

I'd love to see what Gortat could do with Rondo.

Gortat averaged 15 and 10 (on 55% shooting) the last year Nash was in Phoenix. I think he could duplicate those numbers.

Also, the difference doesn't need to be made up by one guy, given the healthy returns of Rondo and Sullinger.

Rondo, Bradley, Terry, Lee, Pierce, Green, Sullinger, KG, Bass, and Gortat would be a terrific 10-man roster.
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2013, 06:53:42 PM »

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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #51 on: May 10, 2013, 07:26:11 PM »

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A healthy Greg Oden could change the entire dynamic of this team.  It probably wouldn't... but it could.

The odds of this happening are not great.   2 years in the NBA he has played 11 games.

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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2013, 07:31:35 PM »

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I'd want Pekovic of all the bigs mentioned in this thread. He's brings the type size of production this team would need to compete. I don't know what gets it done, but I feel Bradley, Melo and the 16th pick is a good start. I'd feel a lot better about this team running it back if we had a center like him on our front court with Pierce and Garnett. However, trading for him isn't worth while if we have to give up Sullinger and Green.

Rondo   ________  Williams
______  Terry     ________
Pierce  Green     ________
Garnett Sullinger ________
Pekovic ________  S.Randolph
(I didn't name the guys I consider tradeable)


I think you can win with that roster if you fill in the blanks properly. If we don't win with that we have Rondo, Green, Sullinger, and Pekovic (and hopefully max money) to play with the next few years.

Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2013, 08:02:21 PM »

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(2) I think J.Green for Varejao is a good offer and one Cleveland could have interest in.


I think this is a good deal as well and I would approve of it. I'd hate to see Green go, I think he is one of our value guys and I think he's going to be even better next year, but we need a Center badly and Varejao sometimes has some big games. We can make up for losing Green. So that is why I wouldn't be opposed to losing Green for a legitimate Big.

I think it is more costly for us to NOT have a true big for yet another season than it would be for us to keep Green and not have a Big.

This is a trade that seems to make sense for both parties if Boston wants to make another run next season (which I hope they do).  I like Jeff, but I'd do this.  It would make us a very strong defensive team.  Rondo-AB-Pierce-KG-Varejao?  Wow.  Bass and Lee off the bench aren't too shabby defensively themselves. 
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2013, 08:08:29 PM »

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(2) I think J.Green for Varejao is a good offer and one Cleveland could have interest in.


I think this is a good deal as well and I would approve of it. I'd hate to see Green go, I think he is one of our value guys and I think he's going to be even better next year, but we need a Center badly and Varejao sometimes has some big games. We can make up for losing Green. So that is why I wouldn't be opposed to losing Green for a legitimate Big.

I think it is more costly for us to NOT have a true big for yet another season than it would be for us to keep Green and not have a Big.

This is a trade that seems to make sense for both parties if Boston wants to make another run next season (which I hope they do).  I like Jeff, but I'd do this.  It would make us a very strong defensive team.  Rondo-AB-Pierce-KG-Varejao?  Wow.  Bass and Lee off the bench aren't too shabby defensively themselves.

This ain't a bad trade. But Varejao is injury-prone...


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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2013, 08:13:03 PM »

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(2) I think J.Green for Varejao is a good offer and one Cleveland could have interest in.


I think this is a good deal as well and I would approve of it. I'd hate to see Green go, I think he is one of our value guys and I think he's going to be even better next year, but we need a Center badly and Varejao sometimes has some big games. We can make up for losing Green. So that is why I wouldn't be opposed to losing Green for a legitimate Big.

I think it is more costly for us to NOT have a true big for yet another season than it would be for us to keep Green and not have a Big.

This is a trade that seems to make sense for both parties if Boston wants to make another run next season (which I hope they do).  I like Jeff, but I'd do this.  It would make us a very strong defensive team.  Rondo-AB-Pierce-KG-Varejao?  Wow.  Bass and Lee off the bench aren't too shabby defensively themselves.

This ain't a bad trade. But Varejao is injury-prone...

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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2013, 08:14:02 PM »

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(2) I think J.Green for Varejao is a good offer and one Cleveland could have interest in.


I think this is a good deal as well and I would approve of it. I'd hate to see Green go, I think he is one of our value guys and I think he's going to be even better next year, but we need a Center badly and Varejao sometimes has some big games. We can make up for losing Green. So that is why I wouldn't be opposed to losing Green for a legitimate Big.

I think it is more costly for us to NOT have a true big for yet another season than it would be for us to keep Green and not have a Big.

This is a trade that seems to make sense for both parties if Boston wants to make another run next season (which I hope they do).  I like Jeff, but I'd do this.  It would make us a very strong defensive team.  Rondo-AB-Pierce-KG-Varejao?  Wow.  Bass and Lee off the bench aren't too shabby defensively themselves.

This ain't a bad trade. But Varejao is injury-prone...

Exactly. I love Varejaos game but he is NEVER healthy. I want no part of him
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2013, 08:46:44 PM »

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Green for Varejao would be a terrifying but titillating risk. 

Varejao does almost everything the team needs - rebounds like a maniac, plays excellent D and creates easy buckets for himself and others with his energy. But the odds of him staying healthy don't seem good.

Green for Gortat's the safer option. Just a little wary of how much we'd have to pay to keep him.  Nor is he the all-around menace that Varejao can be when healthy. But you can get a lot of joy out of a Rondo/Gortat pairing offensively.  Love Gortat's ability to finish on the move.
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« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2013, 09:25:33 PM »

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Green for Varejao would be a terrifying but titillating risk. 

Varejao does almost everything the team needs - rebounds like a maniac, plays excellent D and creates easy buckets for himself and others with his energy. But the odds of him staying healthy don't seem good.

Green for Gortat's the safer option. Just a little wary of how much we'd have to pay to keep him.  Nor is he the all-around menace that Varejao can be when healthy. But you can get a lot of joy out of a Rondo/Gortat pairing offensively.  Love Gortat's ability to finish on the move.

we had a hard time scoring above 70 points in the playoffs , and you want to get rid of our best you scorer?

I would trade Bradley , maybe Sully  plus filler

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« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2013, 09:31:40 PM »

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Green for Varejao would be a terrifying but titillating risk. 

Varejao does almost everything the team needs - rebounds like a maniac, plays excellent D and creates easy buckets for himself and others with his energy. But the odds of him staying healthy don't seem good.

Green for Gortat's the safer option. Just a little wary of how much we'd have to pay to keep him.  Nor is he the all-around menace that Varejao can be when healthy. But you can get a lot of joy out of a Rondo/Gortat pairing offensively.  Love Gortat's ability to finish on the move.

we had a hard time scoring above 70 points in the playoffs , and you want to get rid of our best you scorer?

I would trade Bradley , maybe Sully  plus filler

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