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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2013, 12:09:06 PM »

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Pekovic/Dalembert/Gortat seem like the only cheap reasonable options.

Other than that we would have to package alot in order to get any of the bigs mentioned.

I don't know why any of the users on Celticsblog are so pressed on Varejao.. Sure he was dominant, but his body is so fragile, its hard to imagine a season with Varejao ever healthy.
Pekovic had a career year, in which he averaged 16/9 and generally held his own as a starting C. I don't see how anyone can consider him a "cheap" option, he'd likely fetch Asik type of money at least.
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2013, 12:11:50 PM »

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There's a rumor out there that the Kings are looking to target Monta Ellis. So my guess is that in 6 months of time DMC will be undergoing his homicide trial.

It's buried in another story re: friction in the Bucks locker room.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ken-berger/22224316/sources-bucks-monta-ellis-larry-sanders-almost-came-to-blows-after-loss-to-heat

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Oddly, a member of the proposed ownership group trying to keep the Kings in Sacramento has done some background checking on Ellis as a possibility for the Kings if the team decides to part ways with restricted free agent Tyreke Evans this summer, a league source involved in the discussions said. Ellis is weighing his options and hasn't decided yet whether he will opt out of his $11 million deal.

Ownership, not Kings front office. Which just reeks of disaster for the Kings. Because they really need another diminutive scoring-first guard on that roster.
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2013, 12:14:17 PM »

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Pekovic/Dalembert/Gortat seem like the only cheap reasonable options.

Other than that we would have to package alot in order to get any of the bigs mentioned.

I don't know why any of the users on Celticsblog are so pressed on Varejao.. Sure he was dominant, but his body is so fragile, its hard to imagine a season with Varejao ever healthy.
Pekovic had a career year, in which he averaged 16/9 and generally held his own as a starting C. I don't see how anyone can consider him a "cheap" option, he'd likely fetch Asik type of money at least.

I forgot about his career year.

Honestly, I'd still prefer us to go after Dalembert or Gortat.
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2013, 12:14:27 PM »

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Pekovic/Dalembert/Gortat seem like the only cheap reasonable options.

Other than that we would have to package alot in order to get any of the bigs mentioned.

I don't know why any of the users on Celticsblog are so pressed on Varejao.. Sure he was dominant, but his body is so fragile, its hard to imagine a season with Varejao ever healthy.
Pekovic had a career year, in which he averaged 16/9 and generally held his own as a starting C. I don't see how anyone can consider him a "cheap" option, he'd likely fetch Asik type of money at least.
I am expecting $10-12 million per annum.

I wouldn't be shocked if got the max at $13-14 million either -- or whatever it is for a player coming off his first deal -- after seeing Hibbert get that deal from Indiana/Portland last season. 

I think Boston would have to put together a major trade offer to get Pekovic out of Minnesota. They don't really need Jeff Green with Kirilenko there so he is of lesser value to them (than say CLE or PHO who have problems at SF and are looking for a long term solution). So J.Green, Sullinger and a first round pick. I think that would be a type of trade offer Ainge would need to make to get Minnesota to consider to sign and trade Pekovic to Boston.

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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2013, 12:16:52 PM »

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Pekovic/Dalembert/Gortat seem like the only cheap reasonable options.

Other than that we would have to package alot in order to get any of the bigs mentioned.

I don't know why any of the users on Celticsblog are so pressed on Varejao.. Sure he was dominant, but his body is so fragile, its hard to imagine a season with Varejao ever healthy.
Pekovic had a career year, in which he averaged 16/9 and generally held his own as a starting C. I don't see how anyone can consider him a "cheap" option, he'd likely fetch Asik type of money at least.
I am expecting $10-12 million per annum.

I wouldn't be shocked if got the max at $13-14 million either -- or whatever it is for a player coming off his first deal -- after seeing Hibbert get that deal from Indiana/Portland last season. 

I think Boston would have to put together a major trade offer to get Pekovic out of Minnesota. They don't really need Jeff Green with Kirilenko there so he is of lesser value to them (than say CLE or PHO who have problems at SF and are looking for a long term solution). So J.Green, Sullinger and a first round pick. I think that would be a type of trade offer Ainge would need to make to get Minnesota to consider to sign and trade Pekovic to Boston.
This sounds reasonable. This being said, I don't see a reason mortgaging the house for a one-way big man. I'd rather just keep Green.
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2013, 12:17:37 PM »

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Pekovic/Dalembert/Gortat seem like the only cheap reasonable options.

Other than that we would have to package alot in order to get any of the bigs mentioned.

I don't know why any of the users on Celticsblog are so pressed on Varejao.. Sure he was dominant, but his body is so fragile, its hard to imagine a season with Varejao ever healthy.
Pekovic had a career year, in which he averaged 16/9 and generally held his own as a starting C. I don't see how anyone can consider him a "cheap" option, he'd likely fetch Asik type of money at least.
I am expecting $10-12 million per annum.

I wouldn't be shocked if got the max at $13-14 million either -- or whatever it is for a player coming off his first deal -- after seeing Hibbert get that deal from Indiana/Portland last season. 

I think Boston would have to put together a major trade offer to get Pekovic out of Minnesota. They don't really need Jeff Green with Kirilenko there so he is of lesser value to them (than say CLE or PHO who have problems at SF and are looking for a long term solution). So J.Green, Sullinger and a first round pick. I think that would be a type of trade offer Ainge would need to make to get Minnesota to consider to sign and trade Pekovic to Boston.

I'd rather not lose Sullinger/J Green for Pekovic... Especially if he'd want some max kind of deal...
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2013, 12:19:13 PM »

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Pekovic/Dalembert/Gortat seem like the only cheap reasonable options.

Other than that we would have to package alot in order to get any of the bigs mentioned.

I don't know why any of the users on Celticsblog are so pressed on Varejao.. Sure he was dominant, but his body is so fragile, its hard to imagine a season with Varejao ever healthy.
Pekovic had a career year, in which he averaged 16/9 and generally held his own as a starting C. I don't see how anyone can consider him a "cheap" option, he'd likely fetch Asik type of money at least.
I am expecting $10-12 million per annum.

I wouldn't be shocked if got the max at $13-14 million either -- or whatever it is for a player coming off his first deal -- after seeing Hibbert get that deal from Indiana/Portland last season. 

I think Boston would have to put together a major trade offer to get Pekovic out of Minnesota. They don't really need Jeff Green with Kirilenko there so he is of lesser value to them (than say CLE or PHO who have problems at SF and are looking for a long term solution). So J.Green, Sullinger and a first round pick. I think that would be a type of trade offer Ainge would need to make to get Minnesota to consider to sign and trade Pekovic to Boston.
This sounds reasonable. This being said, I don't see a reason mortgaging the house for a one-way big man. I'd rather just keep Green.

Me neither. Too expensive (both trade wise + salary wise).

Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2013, 12:29:36 PM »

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Dump melo, and pick out four small guys and Wilcox.(he looked useless in the playoffs, he scard to play inside.    Myabe Pierce for a decent backup Center or Milsap

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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2013, 12:35:56 PM »

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If we really flogged Bass's floor spacing jump shot  and Lee's bulldog defence do you think we could land any of the centers listed there in a trade for one or both of them?
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2013, 12:46:07 PM »

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(1) I don't think Bradley and the #16 pick is enough to get Gortat out of Phoenix. I think it would need to be Jeff Green. Maybe a chance of Sullinger + #16 pick but I don't think Bradley has any shot at being the main piece in the deal.

(2) I think J.Green for Varejao is a good offer and one Cleveland could have interest in.

(3) Rondo for Cousins is a fair offer. Not sure whether Sacramento/Seattle would have any interest in it though. Hard to tell what that new ownership is going to do.

(4) I wouldn't give up A.Bradley for Koufos. Koufos is not good enough. A strong backup center but nothing more.

(5) Lance Stephenson has done reasonably well for Indiana. Particularly in the playoffs. Doubtful Courtney Lee will be seen as much of an upgrade. I expect that backup center position will be viewed as more important to Indiana due to Hibbert's inability to play long minutes than a marginal upgrade at SG. I think you would have to pay more to get Mahinmi.

See I think teams would value Bradley higher and I'm not sure what better they can get for Gortat honestly. Just shows how hard these trade proposals are to come up with as everybody values players differently.
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2013, 12:46:19 PM »

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Gortat is and should be the primary trade target.

Fab Melo, the 16th pick should be the start of a package. Of course Phoenix should be asking more but we start from there.
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2013, 01:05:50 PM »

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Gortat is and should be the primary trade target.

As far as Phoenix bigs go, I would be more interested in Luis Scola.
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2013, 01:43:33 PM »

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Gortat is and should be the primary trade target.

As far as Phoenix bigs go, I would be more interested in Luis Scola.

Maybe since the new GM for PHX is from the Celtics we can work something out  ;D

Really though, its too bad because PHX has a few guys who are pointless on a rebuilding team but can be very good contributers to a contender (Gortat, Scola, Dudley..)
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2013, 01:51:36 PM »

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Gortat is and should be the primary trade target.

Fab Melo, the 16th pick should be the start of a package. Of course Phoenix should be asking more but we start from there.

I'm not so sure. I'm pretty high on Koufos in this situation and combined with his
-size (same as Gortat)
-age (6 years younger than Gortat)
-contract (less than half of Gortat and signed for an additional year as opposed to Gortat)
-very simliar statistics:

Gortat Per36
12.7 points
9.8 rebs
52% FG

Koufos Per36
13 points
11.4 rebs
58% FG

I would have absolutely no qualms about getting Gortat but I feel Koufos could be had much cheaper
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Re: Centers that Boston can target this summer via trade
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2013, 01:54:06 PM »

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(2) I think J.Green for Varejao is a good offer and one Cleveland could have interest in.


I think this is a good deal as well and I would approve of it. I'd hate to see Green go, I think he is one of our value guys and I think he's going to be even better next year, but we need a Center badly and Varejao sometimes has some big games. We can make up for losing Green. So that is why I wouldn't be opposed to losing Green for a legitimate Big.

I think it is more costly for us to NOT have a true big for yet another season than it would be for us to keep Green and not have a Big.
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