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Hmmm...Rondo, Bradley, Bledsoe, Terry, Lee, Green, Butler, Bass, Sully, Griffin???

Odd, and interesting combination of players.  The only players worthy of keeping out of that core are Rondo, Green & Griffin.  Everyone else is trade fodder in a larger deal I guess.

I wonder what we could get for some combination of Bradley, Bledsoe, Lee, Terry, Butler, Sully & Bass (plus picks)?


Ultimately, this is likely a ridiculous rumor.  I can't see the Clippers moving Griffin for one or two years of Pierce/KG.  Also, I'm not sure I'd want to build around Griffin, he does have some flaws.

No player is perfect in the NBA. I would think if you gave any rational Celtics fan a choice as to what player they'd like to rebuild around, Blake would be tops on that list.

No way would Griffin be my first choice for a player I'd want to build around.  He's not even in my top 10.

That said, this "rumored" deal would be too good to turn down.  You'd just have to hope Griffin develops a better overall game.  He is still weak on defense and has a suspect mid-range jumpshot.

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Hmmm...Rondo, Bradley, Bledsoe, Terry, Lee, Green, Butler, Bass, Sully, Griffin???

Odd, and interesting combination of players.  The only players worthy of keeping out of that core are Rondo, Green & Griffin.  Everyone else is trade fodder in a larger deal I guess.

I wonder what we could get for some combination of Bradley, Bledsoe, Lee, Terry, Butler, Sully & Bass (plus picks)?


Ultimately, this is likely a ridiculous rumor.  I can't see the Clippers moving Griffin for one or two years of Pierce/KG.  Also, I'm not sure I'd want to build around Griffin, he does have some flaws.

No player is perfect in the NBA. I would think if you gave any rational Celtics fan a choice as to what player they'd like to rebuild around, Blake would be tops on that list.

No way would Griffin be my first choice for a player I'd want to build around.  He's not even in my top 10.

That said, this "rumored" deal would be too good to turn down.  You'd just have to hope Griffin develops a better overall game.  He is still weak on defense and has a suspect mid-range jumpshot.

Yeah, well let's also consider the source. Not sure I'd take anything Stephen A says as gospel (lol.)

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Hmmm...Rondo, Bradley, Bledsoe, Terry, Lee, Green, Butler, Bass, Sully, Griffin???

Odd, and interesting combination of players.  The only players worthy of keeping out of that core are Rondo, Green & Griffin.  Everyone else is trade fodder in a larger deal I guess.

I wonder what we could get for some combination of Bradley, Bledsoe, Lee, Terry, Butler, Sully & Bass (plus picks)?


Ultimately, this is likely a ridiculous rumor.  I can't see the Clippers moving Griffin for one or two years of Pierce/KG.  Also, I'm not sure I'd want to build around Griffin, he does have some flaws.

No player is perfect in the NBA. I would think if you gave any rational Celtics fan a choice as to what player they'd like to rebuild around, Blake would be tops on that list.

No way would Griffin be my first choice for a player I'd want to build around.  He's not even in my top 10.

That said, this "rumored" deal would be too good to turn down.  You'd just have to hope Griffin develops a better overall game.  He is still weak on defense and has a suspect mid-range jumpshot.

I agree...but in terms of Griffin...

Call me crazy....but I think Griffin would be a better player with Rondo than with CP3. As great as CP3 is and he is the best PG in the league imo......

He doesnt really elevate players game as much as you would think..

I think playing with Rondo would have Blake averaging 22 points a game.

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Is there a link?

Doubt there is a link.  Steven A said it on First Take this morning.  Said it's being talked about in NBA "inner-circles", whatever that means.

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Id do this in a heartbeat !

Rondo/Bradley/Green/Griffin/Sully
Bledsoe/Terry/Butler/Bass/Melo

I would hire a good coach to replace Doc.(obviousely)

And even if it's SAS that said so, lets think about this way.

Bledsoe was offered together with DJ for KG. So it's Bledsoe,Griffin for KG,PP and Doc !

Obviousely the Clippers value Chris Paul way more than Griffin! Look at how they play when CP3 was out during the regular season compsred to when hes playing.

They are terrified of losing Chris Paul this summer so they're taking a flier on KG,PP and Doc to win a championship, lets face it the Clips ARE NOT winning anything without vets, that core needs to be broken up and bring in some seasoned vets.

CP3
Billups
Pierce
KG
DJ

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Yeah KG has only two years left on his contract, Pierce is expiring and they give up the former #1 overall pick in the draft, but they think they could build around Chris Paul and not Griffin. That has to be the logic IMO.

And to be able to win the championship, KG needs a rim protector on side like DJ, look how Perkins looked playing alongside KG, imagine how good DJ would be next go him ! KG gets to guard more on the perimeter and less banging inside, plus they could run offense through KG like Bulls do with Noah, that roster suits KG.

And Pierce gets help in scoring from Chris Paul. The scoring is a plus with KG/PP over Griffin/Bledsoe not to mention the way KG/PP performs in the playoffs.

Griffin would look better around Rondo, as Rondo likes to pass rather than shoot.

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Hmmm...Rondo, Bradley, Bledsoe, Terry, Lee, Green, Butler, Bass, Sully, Griffin???

Odd, and interesting combination of players.  The only players worthy of keeping out of that core are Rondo, Green & Griffin.  Everyone else is trade fodder in a larger deal I guess.

I wonder what we could get for some combination of Bradley, Bledsoe, Lee, Terry, Butler, Sully & Bass (plus picks)?


Ultimately, this is likely a ridiculous rumor.  I can't see the Clippers moving Griffin for one or two years of Pierce/KG.  Also, I'm not sure I'd want to build around Griffin, he does have some flaws.

No player is perfect in the NBA. I would think if you gave any rational Celtics fan a choice as to what player they'd like to rebuild around, Blake would be tops on that list.

No way would Griffin be my first choice for a player I'd want to build around.  He's not even in my top 10.

That said, this "rumored" deal would be too good to turn down.  You'd just have to hope Griffin develops a better overall game.  He is still weak on defense and has a suspect mid-range jumpshot.

I agree...but in terms of Griffin...

Call me crazy....but I think Griffin would be a better player with Rondo than with CP3. As great as CP3 is and he is the best PG in the league imo......

He doesnt really elevate players game as much as you would think..

I think playing with Rondo would have Blake averaging 22 points a game.

Agreed if there's any criticism I ever had about CP3 is...

He doesn't elevate people's games the way Rondo does.

Look at KG/Paul Pierce last year, they did pretty well, and it was all thanks to Rondo. Rondo has the ability to set up every player in the game for the best shot. This year whatever has been said, no one could doubt the fact Rondo was our one and only hope of going farther in the playoffs.

I will say CP3 is a little better in terms of scoring, and other areas, but Rondo beats him by far in rebounding, defense, and being able to make players like Wilcox absolutely dominating at times. And CP3 couldn't do that with most players that weren't already going to be really good role players.
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Sillyness aside it could be interesting for both teams. Maybe Paul doesnt get along with Griffins immaturity and is ready to get two established veterans surrounding him in their last years. Paul has a huge say in the Clippers roster management so he could be suggesting moves.

For us

Rondo/Bledsoe
Bradley/Terry/Lee
Green
Griffin/Bass
?

As much as i dislike Griffin a Rondo, Griffin, Green trio would be mighty exciting and make the celtics fun to watch again.

Wont happen though.

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It's doable.  We'd have to probably give up this year's first rounder and maybe a second rounder next year to make up for getting the youth in the deal.

Bledsoe establishes himself as a starting PG.  Rondo slowly establishes his health.
Bledsoe and Terry are traded for a veteran and a 2014 second first rounder to with our
lottery 2014 pick.

Rondo,
Bradley
Green
Griffin
Sullinger

plus:  Bass, Lee, Barbosa, Melo, veteran from trade and two 2014 first round-studs.

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Rumor that we should not pay attention too.

Blake Griffin, the more he gets to the Playoffs, the more flaw in his game is being exposed.

I'd rather have an old but very reliable and being followed by all KG than a dunking machine and nothing else Blake.
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One thing to remember here is that "being discussed" might only mean that the Clips reached out (again) about KG (or KG and Pierce), and Blake ended up in the "discussion" because that's who Ainge initially asked for in return.

In other words, "being discussed" doesn't mean that the Clippers were open to that package; they very well could have  responded to a request for Blake by saying, "Not a chance in hell, Danny, but thanks for the laugh".

On the other hand, in Simmons' two-part "NBA Playoff Questions" article from Friday, he mentioned that Blake and CP3 seem increasingly unhappy playing with each other, and if trading Blake for KG/Pierce is what it took to convince the best guard in all of basketball to re-sign with the Clippers, it begins to look a lot more reasonable.

Still, I'd assume that IF Blake was really discussed, it was because the Clips are legitimately interested in KG and Pierce, and Ainge initially asked for the moon.  If it really happens, though, I'd be much more likely to be Bledsoe, DeAndre Jordan, Caron, and filler, and maybe a future 1st from the Clips, or something like that.       

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I will say CP3 is a little better in terms of scoring, and other areas, but Rondo beats him by far in rebounding, defense, and being able to make players like Wilcox absolutely dominating at times. And CP3 couldn't do that with most players that weren't already going to be really good role players.

CP3 has a much better assist-to-turnover ratio than Rondo.

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considering the source, can't be anything more than mouthful of BS

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Chris Paul definitely makes teammates look better.  Look at Matt Barnes as an example.