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Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2013, 03:17:16 PM »

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Darko is terrible. Shavlik is terrible.

Give it a rest plesae
Look dude, you are welcome to your opinion here, and with me....but don't EVER tell me what to do or say. Please.

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Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2013, 03:17:34 PM »

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Shav Randolph is not some kid who has a bunch of upside or can learn all this new stuff. He will be 30 later this year. He's been around the league since 2005.

Shav is what he is. He is an inept offensive player, a horrible shooter of any kind, has little to no post game, is limited in his athleticism and can rebound above average for his size(meaning 6'10" but kind of thin and no vertical). I think he played well here for what was asked of him.

But he got lost on the defensive rotations, had trouble defending the pick and roll and didn't have the ability to defend perimeter PFs or close out on three pointers very well.

He had no business being on the floor in the playoffs. If he sticks, it will because Wilcox doesn't and nothing better presented itself. But with a non-guaranteed contract, and three others also on the roster(White, Pierce, Williams) I could see his waive-able contract being moved in a package like Sean Williams was last year.

Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2013, 03:24:18 PM »

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Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2013, 03:28:29 PM »

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I have to agree with these thoughts.  Shav did hustle and he did try hard when he got minutes.  He wasn't an embarrassment.  I will give him that. 

But exactly who would he be matched up with that would have helped the C's in the series versus the Knicks?  I can't think of one one rotation Knick big that would have a good matchup for him.  I mean he would have gotten pounded by TC, way too small to defend Tyson.  He would have had his shorts handed to him by melo.  He doesn't have the strength to fight off Martin for rebounds.

The playoffs are really about matchups and where you can get an advantage.  It doesn't seem like there was any advantage with Shav in the lineup.

Shav Randolph is not some kid who has a bunch of upside or can learn all this new stuff. He will be 30 later this year. He's been around the league since 2005.

Shav is what he is. He is an inept offensive player, a horrible shooter of any kind, has little to no post game, is limited in his athleticism and can rebound above average for his size(meaning 6'10" but kind of thin and no vertical). I think he played well here for what was asked of him.

But he got lost on the defensive rotations, had trouble defending the pick and roll and didn't have the ability to defend perimeter PFs or close out on three pointers very well.

He had no business being on the floor in the playoffs. If he sticks, it will because Wilcox doesn't and nothing better presented itself. But with a non-guaranteed contract, and three others also on the roster(White, Pierce, Williams) I could see his waive-able contract being moved in a package like Sean Williams was last year.

Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2013, 03:32:03 PM »

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Well, about shav..all good sides...opinions.....it will change nothing....it is over, and will go as the celts want it to. What WE would do differently.....well...that is what we said.

Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2013, 03:32:29 PM »

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I'd still rank the 2008 offseason as his worst.


Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2013, 03:35:07 PM »

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I don't really blame doc or danny...the injuries to Rondo, sully...then Barbosa.....what could we do anyway.

Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2013, 03:36:16 PM »

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Darko is terrible. Shavlik is terrible.

Give it a rest plesae
Look dude, you are welcome to your opinion here, and with me....but don't EVER tell me what to do or say. Please.

Or..... ?
did you get my message...? Buddy.?

Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2013, 03:43:08 PM »

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I don't really blame doc or danny...the injuries to Rondo, sully...then Barbosa.....what could we do anyway.
I think there is enough blame to go around for this disappointing season with Doc, Danny, the players, etc. But you are 1000% correct, sir, after the injuries there was nothing that could be done. The season wasn't going to end well once those injuries happened.

Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #39 on: May 04, 2013, 03:47:39 PM »

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I don't really blame doc or danny...the injuries to Rondo, sully...then Barbosa.....what could we do anyway.
I think there is enough blame to go around for this disappointing season with Doc, Danny, the players, etc. But you are 1000% correct, sir, after the injuries there was nothing that could be done. The season wasn't going to end well once those injuries happened.

yup...it would be nice to beat ny....I actually thought we would have Miami next.but...I would then hate Indiana if we played them....LOL....now I only want Miami to lose..so I support anyone who can bet Miami, and their refs...! We would not beat Miami anyway...so nothing matters really.....

Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2013, 03:49:35 PM »

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Good...Ainge should take a lot of blame. Where is the length? Where is the help for KG up front? Where is the back up PG? Running out and bringing in an old undersized two guard made no sense. I wish dumb Doc and delusional Danny would both get replaced.

Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2013, 03:55:46 PM »

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You know where a lot of blame has to fall on Danny, what he did after Rondo and Barbosa went down. He didn't sign a free agent PG and he then went out and traded not for quality size but for another SG where he was already LOADED.

For Collins and an injured player, I guess Crawford a good return and he won the trade, but he didn't help the team any making that trade. Shav and White were okay but what about KMart and Birdman. Heck, KMart was practically begging to come here and the vets wanted him here.

Instead we got Crawford.

I'm still shaking my head at his moves after mid January.

Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #42 on: May 04, 2013, 03:58:06 PM »

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right kmart..what about dooling and west also....birdman..two great contributors...they were out there just waiting.....I sometimes wonder if the celts hate tattoo guys...?

Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2013, 04:00:46 PM »

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Hey..hope your back is feeling better they nick...just remembered that.....I think.!

Re: Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss
« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2013, 04:01:27 PM »

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I don't really blame doc or danny...the injuries to Rondo, sully...then Barbosa.....what could we do anyway.

I agree with this. You could blame both Danny and Doc for their parts in the failures this season, but really it all comes down to the unfortunate luck of losing three key players to season ending injuries. Two of which were basically the only ones on the roster who could successfully run an NBA offense.