Danny Ainge Takes Full Responsibility for Celtics' Loss

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Right Shav and DARKO..man..doc ruined that BIG TIME.....doc alwayts ruins the bigs.....always..!!!!

Hold on please...If Doc does not like to bring bigs like Darko&Co, why DA do something that the coach does not like???

did you not see the results..and you ask me.....did it not happen..?

[manl_lui]

question: do they hold team meetings between Danny/Doc and the players?

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Well, your opinion...Shav played quite well....great rebounds, and he was just getting going, he showed very strong decision making in putting it back up, or passing it out to reset.maybe you missed those games....a guy thet can play like that...from limited minutes.....white.never saw him play.....darko...he said he wanted to play more.....he showed a lot.....then doc sat him for sooo long, he quit........and we all know it.....doc had everything to do with darko leaving......

[BudweiserCeltic]

Doc is fully to blame in this context. He had players who would've been useful, he refused to play them to our detriment.

[Redz]

Ainge constructed a poor team. His talent was heavy in the SG and SF positions and he created a team woefully short on size and rebounding. Also, he expected too much from players that would be returning from some serious off season surgeries(Green, Bradley, Wilcox).

Darko leaving, Bradley not back until January, Green not playing well until January, Wilcox never got back 100%, Lee seems never to have fit in properly, Terry had a poor year. Any way you look at it in hindsight, it was a poor off season.

After Rondo, Sully and Barbosa went down, there was zero chance of any playoff success. And poor Doc gets so much grief around here from small ball but the roster after those injuries consisted of exactly ONE PLAYER over the size of 6'9" that was a rotation worthy player, that being Garnett. Bass is 6'8", an undersized PF. Green is 6'9" but plays like a 6'5" SF. What else could Doc do but play a small lineup. That's not on Doc its on Danny.

And please, I don't want to hear about Shav and White and Wilcox. They all suck. White will not be in the league next year. Shav might get the 15th spot somewhere and bounce between the NBDL and the NBA. I think Wilcox might catch on with a team next year but there's no guarantee there either. He may have played his last NBA game.

With 100% health and Darko never leaving and contributing, this team may have had a chance in the ECFs. But 100% health can't be expected and wasn't last year by Danny because he obviously had three players(20% of the roster) that was going to be fairly hampered for at least half the year. Combine that with 20% more of your roster and 33% of your rotation being over 34 and you see why he now says it was his fault.

Agree with most of this, though Bradley came back fine, he just wasn't (and will never be) a point guard capable of running a team under playoff pressure.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

shav was there as the rebounding shot blocker..and dooling was available....so was west..we could have had either...both knew the Celtics, and the celts knew them....west was the best of them all....and he kept cool while here....was very good on the floor...!!!

English please?
Lol

okay...hear me....I speak to adults only please...go to celts blog-children side for your kids games and insults.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Doc is fully to blame in this context. He had players who would've been useful, he refused to play them to our detriment.

I agree 100%...!

[nickagneta]

Ainge constructed a poor team. His talent was heavy in the SG and SF positions and he created a team woefully short on size and rebounding. Also, he expected too much from players that would be returning from some serious off season surgeries(Green, Bradley, Wilcox).

Darko leaving, Bradley not back until January, Green not playing well until January, Wilcox never got back 100%, Lee seems never to have fit in properly, Terry had a poor year. Any way you look at it in hindsight, it was a poor off season.

After Rondo, Sully and Barbosa went down, there was zero chance of any playoff success. And poor Doc gets so much grief around here from small ball but the roster after those injuries consisted of exactly ONE PLAYER over the size of 6'9" that was a rotation worthy player, that being Garnett. Bass is 6'8", an undersized PF. Green is 6'9" but plays like a 6'5" SF. What else could Doc do but play a small lineup. That's not on Doc its on Danny.

And please, I don't want to hear about Shav and White and Wilcox. They all suck. White will not be in the league next year. Shav might get the 15th spot somewhere and bounce between the NBDL and the NBA. I think Wilcox might catch on with a team next year but there's no guarantee there either. He may have played his last NBA game.

With 100% health and Darko never leaving and contributing, this team may have had a chance in the ECFs. But 100% health can't be expected and wasn't last year by Danny because he obviously had three players(20% of the roster) that was going to be fairly hampered for at least half the year. Combine that with 20% more of your roster and 33% of your rotation being over 34 and you see why he now says it was his fault.

Agree with most of this, though Bradley came back fine, he just wasn't (and will never be) a point guard capable of running a team under playoff pressure.

Oh, I agree he came back fine, as did Green. But the Celtic team lost half the season waiting for them to come back fine. Then to make matters worse, just when they came back Rondo and Sully went down.

And yes, Bradley is not a PG. He's part of the very heavy emphasis Danny originally placed in the wing area:Green, Pierce, Joseph, Bradley, Terry, Lee, Barbosa. Half the team were wing players to begin the season.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Bradley could be seen as TA's replacement....and he is good at what he does. He is a slasher/defender.....not his fault Rondo went down..they were a great 2, together..! We will have them again....! It was a tough year for injuries...! THAT is why you need to have/train/play backups...!

[ItStaysYang]

Darko is terrible. Shavlik is terrible.

Give it a rest plesae

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Darko is terrible. Shavlik is terrible.

Give it a rest plesae

Look dude, you are welcome to your opinion here, and with me....but don't EVER tell me what to do or say. Please.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Darko is a strong center, shav is also a good center, very good rebounder, and shot blocker....he can learn to be better..he has shown good decision making, and smart court sense.....he needs ref respect, which comes from league respect...and team respect.

[kgainez]

you all are acting like DA had tons of options for bigs, first and foremost lolol
and isn't Doc you alls #1 coach in the league...he couldn't figure out a way to get production out of a guy like Darko or Shav?
Come on. I don't blame DA at all.

On paper, we had a great team. Needed a big, but there aren't a ton out there who are willing to come to Boston and who are affordable.

[CoachBo]

Ainge constructed a poor team. His talent was heavy in the SG and SF positions and he created a team woefully short on size and rebounding. Also, he expected too much from players that would be returning from some serious off season surgeries(Green, Bradley, Wilcox).

Darko leaving, Bradley not back until January, Green not playing well until January, Wilcox never got back 100%, Lee seems never to have fit in properly, Terry had a poor year. Any way you look at it in hindsight, it was a poor off season.

After Rondo, Sully and Barbosa went down, there was zero chance of any playoff success. And poor Doc gets so much grief around here from small ball but the roster after those injuries consisted of exactly ONE PLAYER over the size of 6'9" that was a rotation worthy player, that being Garnett. Bass is 6'8", an undersized PF. Green is 6'9" but plays like a 6'5" SF. What else could Doc do but play a small lineup. That's not on Doc its on Danny.

And please, I don't want to hear about Shav and White and Wilcox. They all suck. White will not be in the league next year. Shav might get the 15th spot somewhere and bounce between the NBDL and the NBA. I think Wilcox might catch on with a team next year but there's no guarantee there either. He may have played his last NBA game.

With 100% health and Darko never leaving and contributing, this team may have had a chance in the ECFs. But 100% health can't be expected and wasn't last year by Danny because he obviously had three players(20% of the roster) that was going to be fairly hampered for at least half the year. Combine that with 20% more of your roster and 33% of your rotation being over 34 and you see why he now says it was his fault.

Yup. The bigs Ainge signed are all terrible, and blaming Doc for that is simply one of the most nonsensical things I've ever seen posted here.

It was the worst off-season of Ainge's career. No question about it.

[blink]

Darko is terrible. Shavlik is terrible.

Give it a rest plesae

Look dude, you are welcome to your opinion here, and with me....but don't EVER tell me what to do or say. Please.

Sheesh relax.  I also think that our bench bigs (with the exception of maybe Wilcox) were not going to contribute a lot to the NYK series.  We had one quality big - KG.  And if we had played better as a team in those 1st three games one quality big might have been enough to beat the Knicks.

I see 4 main things impacting how the season played out:
1) KG / PP / Jet - just getting too old to play at the really high level that everyone expected
2) Horrible season ending injuries to RR, JS, and AB that no one could have anticipated
3) Unrealistic expectations on AB, JG, and Wilcox all coming back from major surgery.
4) Not bringing in a FA that could really help with scoring the ball.

I don't see how any of those are Doc's fault unless he is telling DA what off season moves to make.  I can see DA being responsible for items 3 and 4.  I think everyone thought that KG, PP would play as well as they did in the playoffs last year, and that obviously didn't happen through a lot of the year.

Bottom line DA didn't get what he wanted as value for PP/KG and so he rolled the dice that they had one more big playoff push in them.  It didn't work out, but given the limitations on the salary cap, the players available, and the season ending injuries that we had, I don't see how this season was going to turn out any better with another coach or another GM.