Is Rajon Rondo a HoFer?

[Boris Badenov]

I think he needs to do one of two things:

1. Sustain his assist and steals rates for long enough that he's in the all-time leaders. I did the math and he could crack the top 10 in assists with 5 more full seasons at 10+ assists, or 3 more at 10+ and 4 more at 7+ which I think is pretty doable. If he averages 9 apg for 7 more full seasons he will end up with about as many assist as Gary Payton (8th all-time). If he averages 1.7 spg for 7 more full seasons he will end up in the top 20.

2. Win another ring, or have a sustained period of 5-6 years on a contending team, as the #1 or #2 option.

If he does both, he is a lock. But one alone could get it done. And like Tim said, he will probably end up being very high in terms of many playoff stats (though I tend to discount those a bit, since the number of playoff games played is so much higher now than it was in the earlier days of the NBA).

[bdm860]

People probably thought the same thing about Anfernee Hardaway (4x All-Star, 3x All-NBA), Gilbert Arenas (3x All-Star, 3x All-NBA), Brandon Roy (3x All-Star, 2x All-NBA), and countless others.

Can't take the future for granted, or think a short career is that special in the broad scheme of things.

He's on a solid path though.

[BballTim]

As of right now, he's only 26th amongst ACTIVE players in HOF probability:  http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html?redir ... which puts him below Gilbert Arenas, Shawn Marion and Deron Williams... which I believe means he has a 21% chance of making the Hall of Fame if his injury is career-ending.  In other words... HIGHLY unlikely.  Antoine Walker has a higher probability of making the HOF if Rondo's career is over right now.

Maybe some day, though.

  I would guess that the bulk of the players in the HOF wouldn't be there if you chopped off their careers at Rondo's age. Players like Stockton, Nash, Kidd and Payton wouldn't even be close to being on the radar.

[LooseCannon]

Imagine if Rondo retired right now, do you think he would be inducted into the Hall of Fame?

He doesn't have the career length.

I am curious to see if anyone thinks his number shouldn't be retired under that circumstance.

[pearljammer10]

I mean he hasnt even entered his prime yet... Lets see what accomplishments he can add to his already mipressive resume in the next three, four and five years

[SHAQATTACK]

Want to see what post surgery recovered Rondo is like first.

Rondo 's first goal ....LEARN TO SHOOT  ...be a threat with a jumper.

[kozlodoev]

Is this thread for real?

Its a question? This forum was created to debate certain topics. I created this thread, because of all the recent Rondo bashing, so I wanted to know what people thought about Rondo potentially being a HoFer.

He's got half of his career left, and has been a role player for half of the completed half. What do you think?

[BballTim]

Is this thread for real?

Its a question? This forum was created to debate certain topics. I created this thread, because of all the recent Rondo bashing, so I wanted to know what people thought about Rondo potentially being a HoFer.

He's got half of his career left, and has been a role player for half of the completed half. What do you think?

 If we had Rondo and 2 other role players as good or better than him we'd be perennial contenders.

[Monkhouse]

Is this thread for real?

Its a question? This forum was created to debate certain topics. I created this thread, because of all the recent Rondo bashing, so I wanted to know what people thought about Rondo potentially being a HoFer.

He's got half of his career left, and has been a role player for half of the completed half. What do you think?

So I can't create a thread that's asking a hypothetical question? Oh guess I missed the memo.

By the way there is no way you can say Rondo is a role player....

[D.o.s.]

People probably thought the same thing about Anfernee Hardaway (4x All-Star, 3x All-NBA), Gilbert Arenas (3x All-Star, 3x All-NBA), Brandon Roy (3x All-Star, 2x All-NBA), and countless others.

Can't take the future for granted, or think a short career is that special in the broad scheme of things.

He's on a solid path though.

Good points, especially Penny--can you imagine if he'd been injury free?

[Celtics18]

Is this thread for real?

Its a question? This forum was created to debate certain topics. I created this thread, because of all the recent Rondo bashing, so I wanted to know what people thought about Rondo potentially being a HoFer.

He's got half of his career left, and has been a role player for half of the completed half. What do you think?

He's played six years and been a role player for the first two of those.  He's been a lead man for the last 4 plus.  By my count that's only one-third of his time as a role player, but why quibble over math? 

If his next six years are close to as successful as his first six, I have no doubt that he'll be a hall of famer.  However, if this knee injury effectively ends his career, I don't think he makes it. 

[Moranis]

  The next time he steps on a court in a playoff game he'll be 1 of 11 players ever to total 850 assists and 550 rebounds in his postseason career. The current 10 people in that list are Jason Kidd and 9 HOFers. And Rondo's just entering his prime. He's probably only about 20 playoff games away from 4th all time in career playoff assists as well. Obviously one could start listing the things he's done that only a handful of players in nba history (HOFers or actives like Nash) have done, but don't sleep on where he ranks in career postseason hierarchy when his career is less than half over.

Lebron will probably beat him to #11 (he needs just 51 assists, which he should get this year), but either way I don't think that hurts the argument.

Rondo needs at least 4 more years of fairly similar play to get his regular season numbers, awards, etc. where they need to be for making the HOF.  I do expect him to get in, he just isn't there yet.

[BballTim]

  The next time he steps on a court in a playoff game he'll be 1 of 11 players ever to total 850 assists and 550 rebounds in his postseason career. The current 10 people in that list are Jason Kidd and 9 HOFers. And Rondo's just entering his prime. He's probably only about 20 playoff games away from 4th all time in career playoff assists as well. Obviously one could start listing the things he's done that only a handful of players in nba history (HOFers or actives like Nash) have done, but don't sleep on where he ranks in career postseason hierarchy when his career is less than half over.

Lebron will probably beat him to #11 (he needs just 51 assists, which he should get this year), but either way I don't think that hurts the argument.

Rondo needs at least 4 more years of fairly similar play to get his regular season numbers, awards, etc. where they need to be for making the HOF.  I do expect him to get in, he just isn't there yet.

  Funny, if he needs 51 he just missed what I was looking at.

[dark_lord]

right now....no.  its possible with how the rest of his career goes

[mmmmm]

No.  Definitely not.  Maybe some day if he improves and has a lengthy and successful career without KG and Pierce.

I think in 3-4 years, he'll definitely be a lock.

The Rondo from 2006-2009 is alot different from the Rondo of 2010-2013.

I still don't get why people doubt Rondo. He can take over games even if his shooting ability is rather weak for a point guard.

The Rondo of 2014 will be recovering from a major injury and possibly not even playing a single game... when he does return, he'll return to a team likely devoid of Pierce and KG... and very likely lotto bound with or without his help.

If I recall, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen each played on 'lotto bound' teams at least once during their careers.  Oh yeah:  2006-2007, all three played on teams that ended up in the lottery.

Don't think that alone really means all that much.   Rondo's larger career story is going to be the important thing.

Even if the next couple of seasons are tough, Rondo is likely to be around for several years after that.  And Danny will have a LOT of flexibility to rebuild the roster after the current set of contracts expire (assuming no major trades before then).