It's happened with Nate Robinson. Jermaine O'Neal has had flashes of greatness over in Phoenix (he had a handful of double doubles). Ray Allen ate Jason Terry OFF THE DRIBBLE in our 2nd to last game against the Heat. It's not like he was drilling 3s in his face. He took dude to the hole. Ryan Hollins has even had some stand out games. You all don't at least ever think about why that type of thing never really happened while these ppl were Celtics? Even when healthy?
So you're saying all the success players actually have had as Celtics is wholly separate from Doc's tutelage?
I know you're not actually saying that, but that's the flaw in your logic. You're dismissing the chemistry of the Big 3 from the get-go, you're dismissing Rondo's emergence as a star, Jeff Green's resurgence as a viable NBA starter, Sullinger's promising play as a rookie, Tony Allen's development into an elite defensive stopper..and that's just off the top of my head.
Every coach fails to properly utilize players from time to time, whether by mistakenly deploying them, or thinking that they'd be better off not suffering their weaknesses even if it means neglecting their strengths.
Yes and no. I think the starting 5 don't have as much restriction as the bench and role players. Ray was moved to the bench and was therefore, a benchman who had a restrictive role. In 2008 and 2009, Ray could do whatever he wanted. Rondo's emergence and even Jeff Greens resurgence had a lot to do with their raw talent. I'd like to add Sully to that as well -- the guy knows no other way than to play the way he does. Let's not act like these guys didn't come from the bench and had THEY not used THEIR talent, then they wouldn't be where they are now. HOWEVER, I do give Doc credit for cultivating it (not so much in Sully's case).
And a guy like Tony Allen is an example of the person who has limited talent, so a restrictive style of coaching bodes well for them. "Ok, I can't shoot well or do anything really awesome on offense, let me focus and hone in on defense where I seem to be pretty good." THAT's what I think is Doc's strength. To pull out the talent in people with LIMITED talent. I do not think he's great with utilizing guys with lots of talent, nor entire teams with lots of talent.
On paper, at the beginning of the year, you can't tell me you weren't excited for some of the acquisitions we had. My biggest issue was why Jason Collins and who is Darko? You can't tell me that after the pre-season you didn't even feel mildly giddy.
You say every coach fails. I'm saying Doc is blatantly ignoring it and trying to use the 2007-2008 big three game plan for this group of players. It's not going to work.
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