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Offline rondohondo

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This is not a thread about bashing Jeff Green , but it seems pretty apparent to me that he is a # 3 scorer at best. I love his versatility , defense, and go to ability(against certain matchups). He doesn't have the mentality to be a go to guy.

so to be a title contender we have to add a big man and a #1 wing scorer .


I am thinking we have to add a Marc Gasol, and a paul george type to be legit contenders again.

When will we have cap room again ?  :-\

Re: Can we all agree Jeff Green is a number 3 scoring option at best?
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This is not a thread about bashing Jeff Green , but it seems pretty apparent to me that he is a # 3 scorer at best. I love his versatility , defense, and go to ability(against certain matchups). He doesn't have the mentality to be a go to guy.

so to be a title contender we have to add a big man and a #1 wing scorer .


I am thinking we have to add a Marc Gasol, and a paul george type to be legit contenders again.

When will we have cap room again ?  :-\
I'm thinking we need to add a Paul Pierce/Kevin Garnett type of player in order to be legit contenders again...
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When will we have cap room again ?  :-\

Possibly as soon as the summer of 2014, if KG retires then.

So, imagine Memphis doing another salary dump when Gasol has a year left on his contract and trading him for a package that includes Sullinger, Melo, and the expiring contract of Brandon Bass.
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I wouldn't say "at best" at all.  I'd say on a great team, yes a #3.

This is not a thread about bashing Jeff Green , but it seems pretty apparent to me that he is a # 3 scorer at best. I love his versatility , defense, and go to ability(against certain matchups). He doesn't have the mentality to be a go to guy.

so to be a title contender we have to add a big man and a #1 wing scorer .


I am thinking we have to add a Marc Gasol, and a paul george type to be legit contenders again.

When will we have cap room again ?  :-\
I'm thinking we need to add a Paul Pierce/Kevin Garnett type of player in order to be legit contenders again...

Yeah of course.  To beat LeBron it will take that at this point.
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No, I think he could be a #2 option on a championship team.  Don't dismiss his defense, either.

But I see him with 18-20 as a starter with plays actually run for him.  That's about where championship Celtics team #2's have been.

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I wouldn't say "at best" at all.  I'd say on a great team, yes a #3.

There's value in Green being a worthy LeBron-defender as well.

This is not a thread about bashing Jeff Green , but it seems pretty apparent to me that he is a # 3 scorer at best. I love his versatility , defense, and go to ability(against certain matchups). He doesn't have the mentality to be a go to guy.

so to be a title contender we have to add a big man and a #1 wing scorer .


I am thinking we have to add a Marc Gasol, and a paul george type to be legit contenders again.

When will we have cap room again ?  :-\
I'm thinking we need to add a Paul Pierce/Kevin Garnett type of player in order to be legit contenders again...

Yeah of course.  To beat LeBron it will take that at this point.

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I wouldn't say "at best" at all.  I'd say on a great team, yes a #3.

This is not a thread about bashing Jeff Green , but it seems pretty apparent to me that he is a # 3 scorer at best. I love his versatility , defense, and go to ability(against certain matchups). He doesn't have the mentality to be a go to guy.

so to be a title contender we have to add a big man and a #1 wing scorer .


I am thinking we have to add a Marc Gasol, and a paul george type to be legit contenders again.

When will we have cap room again ?  :-\
I'm thinking we need to add a Paul Pierce/Kevin Garnett type of player in order to be legit contenders again...

Yeah of course.  To beat LeBron it will take that at this point.
My view about is that we have either world-class second- and third-option-type players in Rondo and Green, or average first- and second-option types, depending on how you slice it.

From there on, I'd like to add a skilled PF (who wouldn't) who has the potential of being a top dog -- simply by virtue of the fact that I think it's somewhat easier to stock jorneymen SGs and Cs.

But again, that's just me.
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Unfortunately, we need a superstar, a future hall of famer. :(

What was the last team that won a championship without a superstar or future hall of famer?  I know the Pistons.  I guess I can't exclude them, but don't like to include them because I believe they only won because the Lakers imploded that year with all their egos and stars.
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I hope for tonight he will become either #1 or #2.
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3rd option at best sounds right to me. Green doesn't have a go to type of game, unless it's a mismatch. I don't think he's a 20ppg scorer, but 17 or 18 sounds pretty reasonable. He really must improve his rebounding to avoid being one dimensional in terms of production.

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Agreed.  Third option, 15-16 points a night playing 35-36 minutes or so.  That sounds ideal.

Just so long as he's playing at SF and not at PF as he was in OKC.
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Unfortunately, we need a superstar, a future hall of famer. :(

What was the last team that won a championship without a superstar or future hall of famer?  I know the Pistons.  I guess I can't exclude them, but don't like to include them because I believe they only won because the Lakers imploded that year with all their egos and stars.

I agree the best way to build a contender is with a superstar, but getting your hands on one is easier said than done. Winning a championship the way Detroit did is definitely the hard way, but that's what we should look to emulate. That is unless you plan on banking on the lottery for the next 10 or so years. I think with our recent stint of contention Boston has become an easier sell as a free agent destination. Just about everyone who's come here has loved it and the perception of Boston as a racist city in the league is dying down.

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Just remember Oklahoma City thought so little of Green that they traded him, Krstic, and a first round pick for Kendrick Perkins and Nate Robinson.
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If you're asking for Green to be your #1 or #2 scoring option, then odds are that you're living in Lottery Land and not sniffing contending for a championship.


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Well, in a word, "yes", and I am 100% fine with that. I've always felt he wasn't a first option and his contract doesn't suggest it.

However, if he could average 13-15 points a night with 6-7 boards and some stellar defense that would be a very good complimentary player at the three spot on a championship team.

I would then look to add an elite scorer at the 4 or 5 spot and a good scorer at the other spot.

Throw in a good defensive center with Rondo at the point and I've got something going...

I like Green. I don't see him as an elite scorer. I just watn him to be a good, steady 15 point a night scorer who plays nails defense at the three spot and can swing the PF when needed.

I'm good with that.