Guessing how many teams would kill to get Rondo

[AshyLarry]

Left out the Lakers.

But it's a good list. Plenty of opportunities to get value for Rondo and move ahead with the rebuild.

The Lakers would want Rondo, but the whole Nash being on the team for a couple more years kind of stunts it.

Rondo's obviously the clear choice between them at this stage of their respective careers, but it would be a classless move to go for him while Nash is still playing.

Actually, that being said, they'd probably still do it.

[CelticConcourse]

One? Most teams hate giving up lottery picks, no matter who they get back. The fact that PGs are abundant (good ones too) make Rondo not-so-valuable, unfortunatey

[AshyLarry]

The fact that PGs are abundant (good ones too) make Rondo not-so-valuable, unfortunatey

I see an opposite effect; the abundance of great PGs just raises the need for your own great PG.

[indeedproceed]

I find it unlikely that Rondo could fetch a top 5 draft pick coming off his injury.

[nickagneta]

The fact that PGs are abundant (good ones too) make Rondo not-so-valuable, unfortunatey

I see an opposite effect; the abundance of great PGs just raises the need for your own great PG.

This makes sense, which is why I don't understand so many people's desire to trade Rondo. He is just soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo valuable in a seven game playoff series because he is so hard to match up on. In the playoffs he is the Celtics best rebounder and passer and sometimes best scorer. The Celtics shouldn't trade him.

I actually doubt they do trade him.

[AshyLarry]

The fact that PGs are abundant (good ones too) make Rondo not-so-valuable, unfortunatey

I see an opposite effect; the abundance of great PGs just raises the need for your own great PG.

This makes sense, which is why I don't understand so many people's desire to trade Rondo. He is just soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo valuable in a seven game playoff series because he is so hard to match up on. In the playoffs he is the Celtics best rebounder and passer and sometimes best scorer. The Celtics shouldn't trade him.

I actually doubt they do trade him.

Exactly. Even though it doesn't seem like it right now, because we're making it work, not having Rondo opens up a hole, and makes it easier for other teams to play D on us.

[BballTim]

I find it unlikely that Rondo could fetch a top 5 draft pick coming off his injury.

  It's more unlikely that a top 5 draft pick will give you more in the playoffs than Rondo does any time in the near future.

[LarBrd33]

Problem is that this league is littered with talented scoring point guards.  We're in the midst of a point guard boom.

There are at least 6 who are arguably better than Rondo and several more of comparable talent.

Clippers - Chris Paul
Thunder - Westbrook
Spurs - Parker
Warriors - Curry
Cavs - Irving
Philly - Holiday
Brooklyn - Williams
...
I doubt any of the above teams would be interested in trading their Point guard straight up for Rondo.

Additionally you have:

Hornets - Vasquez (averaging 14, 9 and 4)
Portland - Lillard (one of the best young guards in the league)
Bucks - Jennings (23 and still improving)
Denver - Lawson
Toronto - Lowry
Timberwolves - Rubio
Washington - John Wall
Houston - Jeremy Lin

... FOr all of the above teams, I feel like it would be a tough sell.  None of the above players are perfect, but neither is Rondo... and I imagine they'd have some debate over whether or not it was an actual upgrade or not.

There are teams like Utah who clearly need a quality PG (although they'd probably prefer one who could shoot so they could spread the floor enough to let their bigs do work down low)

The list starts to get really short.  It's the reason why Ainge has been unsuccessful in trading Rondo despite shopping him every year.  Teams around the league see him as a flawed player who may be the statistical beneficiary of his system.  A lot of teams already have point guards they are content with.  And a lot of teams are content not having a star point guard in the first place... they'd rather hang onto their talented bigs and talented scorers than trade for a flawed passer.  For example, add Miami to a list of teams who doesn't give a crap if they have Rondo or not.

So I imagine the list of teams who would "kill" to get Rondo is pretty short.  And of those teams, I'm not sure how many of them have an asset we'd be that interested in.

[indeedproceed]

I find it unlikely that Rondo could fetch a top 5 draft pick coming off his injury.

  It's more unlikely that a top 5 draft pick will give you more in the playoffs than Rondo does any time in the near future.

Well I don't know about that. A top 5 draft pick and Rondo are going to contribute exactly the same about of production during this season's playoffs.

And, if we do enter a full rebuild next season (which seems about as likely as it isn't), and the playoffs aren't in the picture, Rondo will be contributing exactly as much as a top 5 pick there too once the regular season ends.

[AshyLarry]

Problem is that this league is littered with talented scoring point guards.  We're in the midst of a point guard boom.

There are at least 6 who are arguably better than Rondo and several more of comparable talent.

Clippers - Chris Paul
Thunder - Westbrook
Spurs - Parker
Warriors - Curry
Cavs - Irving
Philly - Holiday
Brooklyn - Williams
...
I doubt any of the above teams would be interested in trading their Point guard straight up for Rondo.

Additionally you have:

Hornets - Vasquez (averaging 14, 9 and 4)
Portland - Lillard (one of the best young guards in the league)
Bucks - Jennings (23 and still improving)
Denver - Lawson
Toronto - Lowry
Timberwolves - Rubio
Washington - John Wall
Houston - Jeremy Lin

... FOr all of the above teams, I feel like it would be a tough sell.  None of the above players are perfect, but neither is Rondo... and I imagine they'd have some debate over whether or not it was an actual upgrade or not.

There are teams like Utah who clearly need a quality PG (although they'd probably prefer one who could shoot so they could spread the floor enough to let their bigs do work down low)

The list starts to get really short.  It's the reason why Ainge has been unsuccessful in trading Rondo despite shopping him every year.  Teams around the league see him as a flawed player who may be the statistical beneficiary of his system.  A lot of teams already have point guards they are content with.  And a lot of teams are content not having a star point guard in the first place... they'd rather hang onto their talented bigs and talented scorers than trade for a flawed passer.  For example, add Miami to a list of teams who doesn't give a crap if they have Rondo or not.

So I imagine the list of teams who would "kill" to get Rondo is pretty short.  And of those teams, I'm not sure how many of them have an asset we'd be that interested in.

Houston would trade Lin for Rondo in a heartbeat.

[LarBrd33]

Problem is that this league is littered with talented scoring point guards.  We're in the midst of a point guard boom.

There are at least 6 who are arguably better than Rondo and several more of comparable talent.

Clippers - Chris Paul
Thunder - Westbrook
Spurs - Parker
Warriors - Curry
Cavs - Irving
Philly - Holiday
Brooklyn - Williams
...
I doubt any of the above teams would be interested in trading their Point guard straight up for Rondo.

Additionally you have:

Hornets - Vasquez (averaging 14, 9 and 4)
Portland - Lillard (one of the best young guards in the league)
Bucks - Jennings (23 and still improving)
Denver - Lawson
Toronto - Lowry
Timberwolves - Rubio
Washington - John Wall
Houston - Jeremy Lin

... FOr all of the above teams, I feel like it would be a tough sell.  None of the above players are perfect, but neither is Rondo... and I imagine they'd have some debate over whether or not it was an actual upgrade or not.

There are teams like Utah who clearly need a quality PG (although they'd probably prefer one who could shoot so they could spread the floor enough to let their bigs do work down low)

The list starts to get really short.  It's the reason why Ainge has been unsuccessful in trading Rondo despite shopping him every year.  Teams around the league see him as a flawed player who may be the statistical beneficiary of his system.  A lot of teams already have point guards they are content with.  And a lot of teams are content not having a star point guard in the first place... they'd rather hang onto their talented bigs and talented scorers than trade for a flawed passer.  For example, add Miami to a list of teams who doesn't give a crap if they have Rondo or not.

So I imagine the list of teams who would "kill" to get Rondo is pretty short.  And of those teams, I'm not sure how many of them have an asset we'd be that interested in.

Houston would trade Lin for Rondo in a heartbeat.

The point of that isn't whether or not Houston would trade Lin for Rondo.  The point of that is that Houston already has a sufficient point guard.  Boston wouldn't want Lin for Rondo.  Boston would want Asik+picks or James Harden, right?  ...   So my point there is that Houston isn't an option.  Take them off the list of teams that are a realistic destination.

If you're lookin for a destination for Rondo it has to be a team that has something to offer... and has a strong desire for a quality point guard.  Houston isn't one of those teams.... because why would you give up a bunch of assets for a quality point guard when you already have a decent one on your roster?  You're then going to be putting in a bunch of work shopping your current point guard and you'll be in the same crappy position Boston was in when they were trying to shop Rondo.  Not worth the effort. 

[BballTim]

I find it unlikely that Rondo could fetch a top 5 draft pick coming off his injury.

  It's more unlikely that a top 5 draft pick will give you more in the playoffs than Rondo does any time in the near future.

Well I don't know about that. A top 5 draft pick and Rondo are going to contribute exactly the same about of production during this season's playoffs.

And, if we do enter a full rebuild next season (which seems about as likely as it isn't), and the playoffs aren't in the picture, Rondo will be contributing exactly as much as a top 5 pick there too once the regular season ends.

  I guess we agree that trading Rondo is pretty much a "throwing in the towel" move. Seriously, though, check out the top 5 picks in the 10 or so drafts before Rondo, look for players that dominate in the playoffs like he does. Obviously there are some but it's not remotely close to half of them.

[CelticConcourse]

Problem is that this league is littered with talented scoring point guards.  We're in the midst of a point guard boom.

There are at least 6 who are arguably better than Rondo and several more of comparable talent.

Clippers - Chris Paul
Thunder - Westbrook
Spurs - Parker
Warriors - Curry
Cavs - Irving
Philly - Holiday
Brooklyn - Williams
...
I doubt any of the above teams would be interested in trading their Point guard straight up for Rondo.

Additionally you have:

Hornets - Vasquez (averaging 14, 9 and 4)
Portland - Lillard (one of the best young guards in the league)
Bucks - Jennings (23 and still improving)
Denver - Lawson
Toronto - Lowry
Timberwolves - Rubio
Washington - John Wall
Houston - Jeremy Lin

... FOr all of the above teams, I feel like it would be a tough sell.  None of the above players are perfect, but neither is Rondo... and I imagine they'd have some debate over whether or not it was an actual upgrade or not.

There are teams like Utah who clearly need a quality PG (although they'd probably prefer one who could shoot so they could spread the floor enough to let their bigs do work down low)

The list starts to get really short.  It's the reason why Ainge has been unsuccessful in trading Rondo despite shopping him every year.  Teams around the league see him as a flawed player who may be the statistical beneficiary of his system.  A lot of teams already have point guards they are content with.  And a lot of teams are content not having a star point guard in the first place... they'd rather hang onto their talented bigs and talented scorers than trade for a flawed passer.  For example, add Miami to a list of teams who doesn't give a crap if they have Rondo or not.

So I imagine the list of teams who would "kill" to get Rondo is pretty short.  And of those teams, I'm not sure how many of them have an asset we'd be that interested in.

Houston would trade Lin for Rondo in a heartbeat.

Agreed, but Conley, Teague, Dragic are pretty good too. Miami, NYK, Pacers all have no real need for him. Nobody really wants Rondo.

[LarBrd33]

Problem is that this league is littered with talented scoring point guards.  We're in the midst of a point guard boom.

There are at least 6 who are arguably better than Rondo and several more of comparable talent.

Clippers - Chris Paul
Thunder - Westbrook
Spurs - Parker
Warriors - Curry
Cavs - Irving
Philly - Holiday
Brooklyn - Williams
...
I doubt any of the above teams would be interested in trading their Point guard straight up for Rondo.

Additionally you have:

Hornets - Vasquez (averaging 14, 9 and 4)
Portland - Lillard (one of the best young guards in the league)
Bucks - Jennings (23 and still improving)
Denver - Lawson
Toronto - Lowry
Timberwolves - Rubio
Washington - John Wall
Houston - Jeremy Lin

... FOr all of the above teams, I feel like it would be a tough sell.  None of the above players are perfect, but neither is Rondo... and I imagine they'd have some debate over whether or not it was an actual upgrade or not.

There are teams like Utah who clearly need a quality PG (although they'd probably prefer one who could shoot so they could spread the floor enough to let their bigs do work down low)

The list starts to get really short.  It's the reason why Ainge has been unsuccessful in trading Rondo despite shopping him every year.  Teams around the league see him as a flawed player who may be the statistical beneficiary of his system.  A lot of teams already have point guards they are content with.  And a lot of teams are content not having a star point guard in the first place... they'd rather hang onto their talented bigs and talented scorers than trade for a flawed passer.  For example, add Miami to a list of teams who doesn't give a crap if they have Rondo or not.

So I imagine the list of teams who would "kill" to get Rondo is pretty short.  And of those teams, I'm not sure how many of them have an asset we'd be that interested in.

Houston would trade Lin for Rondo in a heartbeat.

Agreed, but Conley, Teague, Dragic are pretty good too. Miami, NYK, Pacers all have no real need for him. Nobody really wants Rondo.

Exactly.  While I'm sure Memphis would like to trade Conley for Rondo... and while I'm sure Atlanta would love to trade Teague for Rondo... Why would Boston do that?   Boston would be looking for a top 5 pick or an elite big or an elite scorer.   And when a team already has a "good enuf" point guard, there's no sense in giving up major assets for a slight upgrade at a position they already have filled. 

So really you're talkin about like... Maybe Utah would sign-and-trade Al Jefferson for Rondo.  They need a point guard and they are loaded with bigs.  There aren't a lot of scenarios that make sense.

[AshyLarry]

Problem is that this league is littered with talented scoring point guards.  We're in the midst of a point guard boom.

There are at least 6 who are arguably better than Rondo and several more of comparable talent.

Clippers - Chris Paul
Thunder - Westbrook
Spurs - Parker
Warriors - Curry
Cavs - Irving
Philly - Holiday
Brooklyn - Williams
...
I doubt any of the above teams would be interested in trading their Point guard straight up for Rondo.

Additionally you have:

Hornets - Vasquez (averaging 14, 9 and 4)
Portland - Lillard (one of the best young guards in the league)
Bucks - Jennings (23 and still improving)
Denver - Lawson
Toronto - Lowry
Timberwolves - Rubio
Washington - John Wall
Houston - Jeremy Lin

... FOr all of the above teams, I feel like it would be a tough sell.  None of the above players are perfect, but neither is Rondo... and I imagine they'd have some debate over whether or not it was an actual upgrade or not.

There are teams like Utah who clearly need a quality PG (although they'd probably prefer one who could shoot so they could spread the floor enough to let their bigs do work down low)

The list starts to get really short.  It's the reason why Ainge has been unsuccessful in trading Rondo despite shopping him every year.  Teams around the league see him as a flawed player who may be the statistical beneficiary of his system.  A lot of teams already have point guards they are content with.  And a lot of teams are content not having a star point guard in the first place... they'd rather hang onto their talented bigs and talented scorers than trade for a flawed passer.  For example, add Miami to a list of teams who doesn't give a crap if they have Rondo or not.

So I imagine the list of teams who would "kill" to get Rondo is pretty short.  And of those teams, I'm not sure how many of them have an asset we'd be that interested in.

Houston would trade Lin for Rondo in a heartbeat.

The point of that isn't whether or not Houston would trade Lin for Rondo.  The point of that is that Houston already has a sufficient point guard.  Boston wouldn't want Lin for Rondo.  Boston would want Asik+picks or James Harden, right?  ...   So my point there is that Houston isn't an option.  Take them off the list of teams that are a realistic destination.

If you're lookin for a destination for Rondo it has to be a team that has something to offer... and has a strong desire for a quality point guard.  Houston isn't one of those teams.... because why would you give up a bunch of assets for a quality point guard when you already have a decent one on your roster?  You're then going to be putting in a bunch of work shopping your current point guard and you'll be in the same crappy position Boston was in when they were trying to shop Rondo.  Not worth the effort.

Because Rondo's not just a quality PG, he's an amazing player; a top 15 game changer who'd put Houston over the top. He wouldn't just mimic Lin and add some better game; he'd take over the dang team when he comes back from his injury. The only reason we wouldn't get a couple assets is because of said injury.