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Quote from: Galeto on December 29, 2012, 11:17:51 PMKG is not Kobe. He doesn't complain about coaches. He respects Doc and follows along. The man was like Iverson in his prime: he almost never left games. From what I can infer, he loves to play. You think he wants to sit after playing the first 4.5 minutes?No, sorry, I did not mean to imply KG would Kobe to the media. He definitely would not. But he would tell Doc he wants to play and he would not look so calm when he comes off the court. Doc, I believe 100%, would let KG play if KG demanded to play. The only way I see KG losing that argument is if he is injured. But if KG ran off the court and said to Doc, "Coach, Im feeling it tonight, let me play" I guarantee Doc would get him back in quickly.
KG is not Kobe. He doesn't complain about coaches. He respects Doc and follows along. The man was like Iverson in his prime: he almost never left games. From what I can infer, he loves to play. You think he wants to sit after playing the first 4.5 minutes?
is pierce drunk tonight?
Quote from: tgreanier on December 29, 2012, 11:13:12 PMQuote from: vinnie on December 29, 2012, 11:08:15 PMQuote from: Who on December 29, 2012, 11:06:53 PMQuote from: vinnie on December 29, 2012, 11:04:22 PMQuote from: tgreanier on December 29, 2012, 11:02:02 PMQuote from: Galeto on December 29, 2012, 10:58:12 PMWith all the rest KG gets during games plus the rest he'll get when the Celtics miss the playoffs, he'll be doubly good next season. Doc is brilliant.I give up. Some people will just never allow anything except that it is Doc's fault this team is average at best. Some basketball IQ makes it pretty clear the problem is not Doc.KG had to be talked into returning this year and the minutes are in large part his idea. Doc is not mishandling the situation, he is working other people who need to step up. If he grinds KG all night and KG gets hurt (not an unlikely scenario at his age) then what? Doc is stupid for overworking KG. There is a reason Ainge says he would like no other coach but Doc - the man is a great coach and any of his players will tell you that. Look at the real problems, don't just blame the coach because you don't like what is happening on the court. Doc - and I admit this is just a guess - did not tell Pierce to throw up an airball three.I agree, but isn't it ridiculous to sub a guy 270 seconds into a game? It just makes no sense. None at all.I find it very strange. I have only ever really seen it done with those 15-20 minute a night type starters. Especially for clubs bringing on a Manu Ginobili type in that guy's place.But for a player of Garnett's ability? And with alternative bigs like Bass, Sully, Wilcox and Collins? I find that very strange.Still, it worked well for Boston last year. KG played very well in the playoffs. So I am reluctant to criticize ... but I do find it very odd.The KG minutes thing was not this extreme last year.And KG almost didn't come back this year because of it. There is a reason he is on this "stupid" schedule and KG himself is partly the architect of it. Do you really think KG would sit like this if he didn't want to? He would be all over the place complaining. Obviously, this is what KG wants. Personally I would rather have KG playing low minutes per quarter for now than no KG at all. Maybe it won't work again. Maybe if the Celtics make the postseason, KG won't come on like a 25 year old again...but I won't bet against KG...yet.Honestly, you have to be making crap up. You have no insider information about KG's decisionmaking about whether to come back.
Quote from: vinnie on December 29, 2012, 11:08:15 PMQuote from: Who on December 29, 2012, 11:06:53 PMQuote from: vinnie on December 29, 2012, 11:04:22 PMQuote from: tgreanier on December 29, 2012, 11:02:02 PMQuote from: Galeto on December 29, 2012, 10:58:12 PMWith all the rest KG gets during games plus the rest he'll get when the Celtics miss the playoffs, he'll be doubly good next season. Doc is brilliant.I give up. Some people will just never allow anything except that it is Doc's fault this team is average at best. Some basketball IQ makes it pretty clear the problem is not Doc.KG had to be talked into returning this year and the minutes are in large part his idea. Doc is not mishandling the situation, he is working other people who need to step up. If he grinds KG all night and KG gets hurt (not an unlikely scenario at his age) then what? Doc is stupid for overworking KG. There is a reason Ainge says he would like no other coach but Doc - the man is a great coach and any of his players will tell you that. Look at the real problems, don't just blame the coach because you don't like what is happening on the court. Doc - and I admit this is just a guess - did not tell Pierce to throw up an airball three.I agree, but isn't it ridiculous to sub a guy 270 seconds into a game? It just makes no sense. None at all.I find it very strange. I have only ever really seen it done with those 15-20 minute a night type starters. Especially for clubs bringing on a Manu Ginobili type in that guy's place.But for a player of Garnett's ability? And with alternative bigs like Bass, Sully, Wilcox and Collins? I find that very strange.Still, it worked well for Boston last year. KG played very well in the playoffs. So I am reluctant to criticize ... but I do find it very odd.The KG minutes thing was not this extreme last year.And KG almost didn't come back this year because of it. There is a reason he is on this "stupid" schedule and KG himself is partly the architect of it. Do you really think KG would sit like this if he didn't want to? He would be all over the place complaining. Obviously, this is what KG wants. Personally I would rather have KG playing low minutes per quarter for now than no KG at all. Maybe it won't work again. Maybe if the Celtics make the postseason, KG won't come on like a 25 year old again...but I won't bet against KG...yet.
Quote from: Who on December 29, 2012, 11:06:53 PMQuote from: vinnie on December 29, 2012, 11:04:22 PMQuote from: tgreanier on December 29, 2012, 11:02:02 PMQuote from: Galeto on December 29, 2012, 10:58:12 PMWith all the rest KG gets during games plus the rest he'll get when the Celtics miss the playoffs, he'll be doubly good next season. Doc is brilliant.I give up. Some people will just never allow anything except that it is Doc's fault this team is average at best. Some basketball IQ makes it pretty clear the problem is not Doc.KG had to be talked into returning this year and the minutes are in large part his idea. Doc is not mishandling the situation, he is working other people who need to step up. If he grinds KG all night and KG gets hurt (not an unlikely scenario at his age) then what? Doc is stupid for overworking KG. There is a reason Ainge says he would like no other coach but Doc - the man is a great coach and any of his players will tell you that. Look at the real problems, don't just blame the coach because you don't like what is happening on the court. Doc - and I admit this is just a guess - did not tell Pierce to throw up an airball three.I agree, but isn't it ridiculous to sub a guy 270 seconds into a game? It just makes no sense. None at all.I find it very strange. I have only ever really seen it done with those 15-20 minute a night type starters. Especially for clubs bringing on a Manu Ginobili type in that guy's place.But for a player of Garnett's ability? And with alternative bigs like Bass, Sully, Wilcox and Collins? I find that very strange.Still, it worked well for Boston last year. KG played very well in the playoffs. So I am reluctant to criticize ... but I do find it very odd.The KG minutes thing was not this extreme last year.
Quote from: vinnie on December 29, 2012, 11:04:22 PMQuote from: tgreanier on December 29, 2012, 11:02:02 PMQuote from: Galeto on December 29, 2012, 10:58:12 PMWith all the rest KG gets during games plus the rest he'll get when the Celtics miss the playoffs, he'll be doubly good next season. Doc is brilliant.I give up. Some people will just never allow anything except that it is Doc's fault this team is average at best. Some basketball IQ makes it pretty clear the problem is not Doc.KG had to be talked into returning this year and the minutes are in large part his idea. Doc is not mishandling the situation, he is working other people who need to step up. If he grinds KG all night and KG gets hurt (not an unlikely scenario at his age) then what? Doc is stupid for overworking KG. There is a reason Ainge says he would like no other coach but Doc - the man is a great coach and any of his players will tell you that. Look at the real problems, don't just blame the coach because you don't like what is happening on the court. Doc - and I admit this is just a guess - did not tell Pierce to throw up an airball three.I agree, but isn't it ridiculous to sub a guy 270 seconds into a game? It just makes no sense. None at all.I find it very strange. I have only ever really seen it done with those 15-20 minute a night type starters. Especially for clubs bringing on a Manu Ginobili type in that guy's place.But for a player of Garnett's ability? And with alternative bigs like Bass, Sully, Wilcox and Collins? I find that very strange.Still, it worked well for Boston last year. KG played very well in the playoffs. So I am reluctant to criticize ... but I do find it very odd.
Quote from: tgreanier on December 29, 2012, 11:02:02 PMQuote from: Galeto on December 29, 2012, 10:58:12 PMWith all the rest KG gets during games plus the rest he'll get when the Celtics miss the playoffs, he'll be doubly good next season. Doc is brilliant.I give up. Some people will just never allow anything except that it is Doc's fault this team is average at best. Some basketball IQ makes it pretty clear the problem is not Doc.KG had to be talked into returning this year and the minutes are in large part his idea. Doc is not mishandling the situation, he is working other people who need to step up. If he grinds KG all night and KG gets hurt (not an unlikely scenario at his age) then what? Doc is stupid for overworking KG. There is a reason Ainge says he would like no other coach but Doc - the man is a great coach and any of his players will tell you that. Look at the real problems, don't just blame the coach because you don't like what is happening on the court. Doc - and I admit this is just a guess - did not tell Pierce to throw up an airball three.I agree, but isn't it ridiculous to sub a guy 270 seconds into a game? It just makes no sense. None at all.
Quote from: Galeto on December 29, 2012, 10:58:12 PMWith all the rest KG gets during games plus the rest he'll get when the Celtics miss the playoffs, he'll be doubly good next season. Doc is brilliant.I give up. Some people will just never allow anything except that it is Doc's fault this team is average at best. Some basketball IQ makes it pretty clear the problem is not Doc.KG had to be talked into returning this year and the minutes are in large part his idea. Doc is not mishandling the situation, he is working other people who need to step up. If he grinds KG all night and KG gets hurt (not an unlikely scenario at his age) then what? Doc is stupid for overworking KG. There is a reason Ainge says he would like no other coach but Doc - the man is a great coach and any of his players will tell you that. Look at the real problems, don't just blame the coach because you don't like what is happening on the court. Doc - and I admit this is just a guess - did not tell Pierce to throw up an airball three.
With all the rest KG gets during games plus the rest he'll get when the Celtics miss the playoffs, he'll be doubly good next season. Doc is brilliant.