Celtics (14-14) at Warriors (20-10) 12/29

[AB_Celtic]

Anyone having the same +/- issue as me with espn.com? It's actually quite funny.

GUYS WE GOTTA GET JEFF GREEN OUT OF THE GAME HE'S AT -182 NOW

THERE YOU GO JEFF!!! +82 NOW


Okay I'm done

[Who]

It's hard to see the Celtics winning tonight without a big performance from Pierce.

And early signs are that Pierce doesn't have it tonight. Bad news.

[Celts Fan 92]

pierce gotta start drivin enough of these 3's

[vinnie]

Imagine if the Warriors had not played last night. 

[Galeto]

KG is not Kobe.  He doesn't complain about coaches.  He respects Doc and follows along.  The man was like Iverson in his prime: he almost never left games.  From what I can infer, he loves to play.  You think he wants to sit after playing the first 4.5 minutes?

[tgreanier]

With all the rest KG gets during games plus the rest he'll get when the Celtics miss the playoffs, he'll be doubly good next season.  Doc is brilliant.

I give up. Some people will just never allow anything except that it is Doc's fault this team is average at best. Some basketball IQ makes it pretty clear the problem is not Doc.

KG had to be talked into returning this year and the minutes are in large part his idea. Doc is not mishandling the situation, he is working other people who need to step up. If he grinds KG all night and KG gets hurt (not an unlikely scenario at his age) then what? Doc is stupid for overworking KG. There is a reason Ainge says he would like no other coach but Doc - the man is a great coach and any of his players will tell you that. Look at the real problems, don't just blame the coach because you don't like what is happening on the court. Doc - and I admit this is just a guess - did not tell Pierce to throw up an airball three.

I agree, but isn't it ridiculous to sub a guy 270 seconds into a game? It just makes no sense. None at all.

I find it very strange. I have only ever really seen it done with those 15-20 minute a night type starters. Especially for clubs bringing on a Manu Ginobili type in that guy's place.

But for a player of Garnett's ability? And with alternative bigs like Bass, Sully, Wilcox and Collins? I find that very strange.

Still, it worked well for Boston last year. KG played very well in the playoffs. So I am reluctant to criticize ... but I do find it very odd.

The KG minutes thing was not this extreme last year.

And KG almost didn't come back this year because of it. There is a reason he is on this "stupid" schedule and KG himself is partly the architect of it. Do you really think KG would sit like this if he didn't want to? He would be all over the place complaining. Obviously, this is what KG wants. Personally I would rather have KG playing low minutes per quarter for now than no KG at all.

Maybe it won't work again. Maybe if the Celtics make the postseason, KG won't come on like a 25 year old again...but I won't bet against KG...yet.

Where did you read that KG devised this minute program or wouldn't come back if he wasn't going to play restricted minutes.

Actually, I hear it on a WEEI stream (don't shoot me), but it was earlier this year at work. KG in a discussion with one of the loudmouth hosts of the afternoon show.

[Who]

Is that Ezeli out there 20 foot from the basket with a hand in KG's face on that jump-shot?

This guy is really impressive defensively.

[vinnie]

Pierce. What is he doing?

[GrandTheftRondo]

Well...this got ugly fast.

We seem to love shooting 3's that we don't make.

[celticslove]

Pierce. What is he doing?

hero ball of course. we playing like garbage tonight

[Who]

Oh, that was a beautiful looking swished three from Klay Thompson.

It looked like the net was just going to hang on the opposite side of the rim after.

[timobusa]

what the hell is doc doing? get the ball to sully, he was hot! ugh

[tgreanier]

KG is not Kobe.  He doesn't complain about coaches.  He respects Doc and follows along.  The man was like Iverson in his prime: he almost never left games.  From what I can infer, he loves to play.  You think he wants to sit after playing the first 4.5 minutes?

No, sorry, I did not mean to imply KG would Kobe to the media. He definitely would not. But he would tell Doc he wants to play and he would not look so calm when he comes off the court. Doc, I believe 100%, would let KG play if KG demanded to play. The only way I see KG losing that argument is if he is injured. But if KG ran off the court and said to Doc, "Coach, Im feeling it tonight, let me play" I guarantee Doc would get him back in quickly.

[Galeto]

With all the rest KG gets during games plus the rest he'll get when the Celtics miss the playoffs, he'll be doubly good next season.  Doc is brilliant.

I give up. Some people will just never allow anything except that it is Doc's fault this team is average at best. Some basketball IQ makes it pretty clear the problem is not Doc.

KG had to be talked into returning this year and the minutes are in large part his idea. Doc is not mishandling the situation, he is working other people who need to step up. If he grinds KG all night and KG gets hurt (not an unlikely scenario at his age) then what? Doc is stupid for overworking KG. There is a reason Ainge says he would like no other coach but Doc - the man is a great coach and any of his players will tell you that. Look at the real problems, don't just blame the coach because you don't like what is happening on the court. Doc - and I admit this is just a guess - did not tell Pierce to throw up an airball three.

I agree, but isn't it ridiculous to sub a guy 270 seconds into a game? It just makes no sense. None at all.

I find it very strange. I have only ever really seen it done with those 15-20 minute a night type starters. Especially for clubs bringing on a Manu Ginobili type in that guy's place.

But for a player of Garnett's ability? And with alternative bigs like Bass, Sully, Wilcox and Collins? I find that very strange.

Still, it worked well for Boston last year. KG played very well in the playoffs. So I am reluctant to criticize ... but I do find it very odd.

The KG minutes thing was not this extreme last year.

And KG almost didn't come back this year because of it. There is a reason he is on this "stupid" schedule and KG himself is partly the architect of it. Do you really think KG would sit like this if he didn't want to? He would be all over the place complaining. Obviously, this is what KG wants. Personally I would rather have KG playing low minutes per quarter for now than no KG at all.

Maybe it won't work again. Maybe if the Celtics make the postseason, KG won't come on like a 25 year old again...but I won't bet against KG...yet.

Honestly, you have to be making crap up.  You have no insider information about KG's decisionmaking about whether to come back. 

[vinnie]

Hopefully thy can luck out with a win tomorrow. Guess tonight will be another case of a team getting lucky and hitting all of its shots.   . Isn't  that usually why the Celts lose?