Courtney Lee Shutting Down Ray Allen

[Galeto]

does rondo cover ray if both he and wade are in

Rondo cannot guard a Ray Allen, Ray would just take him to the post downlow.

I tell you what, Ray Allen has a lot of memories for me..making Sasha cry, hitting that game winner in Charlotte, but the number one memory I have of him is his dominating post game.

Just an absolutely dominant post player. Just dominant.

Indeed.  Ray absolutely killed Fisher in the post when the Lakers foolishly decided to have Kobe guard Rondo.  To this day, the Lakers probably regret unleashing Ray's post game and is probably the reason Fisher was traded so unceremoniously years later.

[CelticsFan9]

does rondo cover ray if both he and wade are in

Rondo cannot guard a Ray Allen, Ray would just take him to the post downlow.

Just stop.  Please, first you said he could be a scorer when healthy, then you said all he can really do is shoot.

Now you say he has a post game???   

[KGs Knee]

Can we ban this dude already? All he does is troll for Ray Allen. Don't take his bait, anyone.

This was the 2nd post in the thread.  It should have been the last.

This "RayAllen1934" character is a troll.  Plain and simple.  And yet everyone keeps feeding the troll.  Why?

[blink]

hahaha tp for that one.

does rondo cover ray if both he and wade are in

Rondo cannot guard a Ray Allen, Ray would just take him to the post downlow.

I tell you what, Ray Allen has a lot of memories for me..making Sasha cry, hitting that game winner in Charlotte, but the number one memory I have of him is his dominating post game.

Just an absolutely dominant post player. Just dominant.

[rayallen1934]

Can we ban this dude already? All he does is troll for Ray Allen. Don't take his bait, anyone.

This was the 2nd post in the thread.  It should have been the last.

This "RayAllen1934" character is a troll.  Plain and simple.  And yet everyone keeps feeding the troll.  Why?

Amazing isnt it?

At least im not boring

Not the same old Bradley is the next top 5 point guard in the league homerism talk you get here everyday.

You actually get some unbiased debate.

Some can handle it, some cant

[gar]

Can we ban this dude already? All he does is troll for Ray Allen. Don't take his bait, anyone.

This was the 2nd post in the thread.  It should have been the last.

This "RayAllen1934" character is a troll.  Plain and simple.  And yet everyone keeps feeding the troll.  Why?

So someone else start a thread - I'm die'in over here. Need a fix of basketball action. Gerald Green update? Somebody give me something. October can't come fast enough.

[MrCeltics25]

I think ray allen sucks im glad hes gone

steve novak is a better player right now then ray allen

[Celtics18]

Can we ban this dude already? All he does is troll for Ray Allen. Don't take his bait, anyone.

This was the 2nd post in the thread.  It should have been the last.

This "RayAllen1934" character is a troll.  Plain and simple.  And yet everyone keeps feeding the troll.  Why?

Amazing isnt it?

At least im not boring

Not the same old Bradley is the next top 5 point guard in the league homerism talk you get here everyday.

You actually get some unbiased debate.

Some can handle it, some cant

Pay attention, "Mr. Excitement."  Avery Bradley's not even a point guard.  I don't know about top 5, but he's a better shooting guard for the present and the future than the turn coat who used to play the position for the Boston Celtics. 

[indeedproceed]

does rondo cover ray if both he and wade are in

Rondo cannot guard a Ray Allen, Ray would just take him to the post downlow.

I tell you what, Ray Allen has a lot of memories for me..making Sasha cry, hitting that game winner in Charlotte, but the number one memory I have of him is his dominating post game.

Just an absolutely dominant post player. Just dominant.

Indeed.  Ray absolutely killed Fisher in the post when the Lakers foolishly decided to have Kobe guard Rondo.  To this day, the Lakers probably regret unleashing Ray's post game and is probably the reason Fisher was traded so unceremoniously years later.

I wasn't saying Ray Allen can't score in the post, I'm saying he can't score in the post vs the Celtics. And I don't think a Finals performance from what..2 seasons ago, against a guy who is pretty widely known as one of if not the worst defender in the league..

If people said 'look what he did against Derek Fisher' as some kind of argument, just about every point guard in the league would be an all-star candidate.

"Look what Derrick Favors did against Mikki Moore! Fear him!!!"

[RJ87]

does rondo cover ray if both he and wade are in

Rondo cannot guard a Ray Allen, Ray would just take him to the post downlow.

I tell you what, Ray Allen has a lot of memories for me..making Sasha cry, hitting that game winner in Charlotte, but the number one memory I have of him is his dominating post game.

Just an absolutely dominant post player. Just dominant.

Indeed.  Ray absolutely killed Fisher in the post when the Lakers foolishly decided to have Kobe guard Rondo.  To this day, the Lakers probably regret unleashing Ray's post game and is probably the reason Fisher was traded so unceremoniously years later.

I wasn't saying Ray Allen can't score in the post, I'm saying he can't score in the post vs the Celtics. And I don't think a Finals performance from what..2 seasons ago, against a guy who is pretty widely known as one of if not the worst defender in the league..

If people said 'look what he did against Derek Fisher' as some kind of argument, just about every point guard in the league would be an all-star candidate.

"Look what Derrick Favors did against Mikki Moore! Fear him!!!"

Ugh. Did we have to bring up Mikki Moore??

[CelticsFan9]

Can we ban this dude already? All he does is troll for Ray Allen. Don't take his bait, anyone.

This was the 2nd post in the thread.  It should have been the last.

This "RayAllen1934" character is a troll.  Plain and simple.  And yet everyone keeps feeding the troll.  Why?

Amazing isnt it?

At least im not boring

Not the same old Bradley is the next top 5 point guard in the league homerism talk you get here everyday.

You actually get some unbiased debate.

Some can handle it, some cant

Oh, the irony.

[Galeto]

does rondo cover ray if both he and wade are in

Rondo cannot guard a Ray Allen, Ray would just take him to the post downlow.

I tell you what, Ray Allen has a lot of memories for me..making Sasha cry, hitting that game winner in Charlotte, but the number one memory I have of him is his dominating post game.

Just an absolutely dominant post player. Just dominant.

Indeed.  Ray absolutely killed Fisher in the post when the Lakers foolishly decided to have Kobe guard Rondo.  To this day, the Lakers probably regret unleashing Ray's post game and is probably the reason Fisher was traded so unceremoniously years later.

I wasn't saying Ray Allen can't score in the post, I'm saying he can't score in the post vs the Celtics. And I don't think a Finals performance from what..2 seasons ago, against a guy who is pretty widely known as one of if not the worst defender in the league..

If people said 'look what he did against Derek Fisher' as some kind of argument, just about every point guard in the league would be an all-star candidate.

"Look what Derrick Favors did against Mikki Moore! Fear him!!!"

I was being sarcastic.  That didn't come through?  Of course if Ray had a dominant post game the Lakers would have had to take Kobe off Rondo.  But alas, Ray had many strengths but exploiting a size advantage wasn't one of them.

[blink]

At least he admits what he is.  He isn't hiding it...haha.

I think most of us feel the need to 'set the record straight' when there are such obviously biased threads that start with no basis in fact.

It gets us riled up, and then it is hard to hold back from feeding the troll..

Can we ban this dude already? All he does is troll for Ray Allen. Don't take his bait, anyone.

This was the 2nd post in the thread.  It should have been the last.

This "RayAllen1934" character is a troll.  Plain and simple.  And yet everyone keeps feeding the troll.  Why?

Amazing isnt it?

At least im not boring

Not the same old Bradley is the next top 5 point guard in the league homerism talk you get here everyday.

You actually get some unbiased debate.

Some can handle it, some cant

[rayallen34]

At least he admits what he is.  He isn't hiding it...haha.

I think most of us feel the need to 'set the record straight' when there are such obviously biased threads that start with no basis in fact.

It gets us riled up, and then it is hard to hold back from feeding the troll..

Can we ban this dude already? All he does is troll for Ray Allen. Don't take his bait, anyone.

This was the 2nd post in the thread.  It should have been the last.

This "RayAllen1934" character is a troll.  Plain and simple.  And yet everyone keeps feeding the troll.  Why?

Amazing isnt it?

At least im not boring

Not the same old Bradley is the next top 5 point guard in the league homerism talk you get here everyday.

You actually get some unbiased debate.

Some can handle it, some cant

I will make it simple for those who are not smart enough to understand.

The Celtics did get better now. They should be better, they should be more balanced now even without Allen. They are a better team on paper than they were last year.

Is Bradley a better fit than Allen right now? Who knows...is he better than Allen right now? I really dont think he is. He probably contributes better to that team, but that all depends on what Rondo does now IMO.


Novak ? Really?

Ray Allen still has 20+ point games in him. This is what makes him dangerous

Sure Battier can have a game where Paul Pierce wont guard him at all , and Battier can make 4 out 8 threes

But Ray Allen can still score 25 points and hit 7 three pointers any single game teams dont put the focus on him for.


You want to let Bradley shut down Ray? go ahead , and leave Wade to do what he wants at a higher clip then he would if Bradley was guarding him.

You want to let Pierce try to stop Lebron, he will get destroyed. Not hating on Pierce, but Lebron is just too tough one on one for anybody to handle, especially at Pierce's declining rate. Jeff Green cannot defend Lebron. I dont know why people think he has a chance too. And Green is my second favorite player.


If there ever was a chance for the Celtics to get by Miami, this is there best and probably last chance.

[bucknersrevenge]

At least he admits what he is.  He isn't hiding it...haha.

I think most of us feel the need to 'set the record straight' when there are such obviously biased threads that start with no basis in fact.

It gets us riled up, and then it is hard to hold back from feeding the troll..

Can we ban this dude already? All he does is troll for Ray Allen. Don't take his bait, anyone.

This was the 2nd post in the thread.  It should have been the last.

This "RayAllen1934" character is a troll.  Plain and simple.  And yet everyone keeps feeding the troll.  Why?

Amazing isnt it?

At least im not boring

Not the same old Bradley is the next top 5 point guard in the league homerism talk you get here everyday.

You actually get some unbiased debate.

Some can handle it, some cant

I will make it simple for those who are not smart enough to understand.

The Celtics did get better now. They should be better, they should be more balanced now even without Allen. They are a better team on paper than they were last year.

Is Bradley a better fit than Allen right now? Who knows...is he better than Allen right now? I really dont think he is. He probably contributes better to that team, but that all depends on what Rondo does now IMO.


Novak ? Really?

Ray Allen still has 20+ point games in him. This is what makes him dangerous

Sure Battier can have a game where Paul Pierce wont guard him at all , and Battier can make 4 out 8 threes

But Ray Allen can still score 25 points and hit 7 three pointers any single game teams dont put the focus on him for.


You want to let Bradley shut down Ray? go ahead , and leave Wade to do what he wants at a higher clip then he would if Bradley was guarding him.

You want to let Pierce try to stop Lebron, he will get destroyed. Not hating on Pierce, but Lebron is just too tough one on one for anybody to handle, especially at Pierce's declining rate. Jeff Green cannot defend Lebron. I dont know why people think he has a chance too. And Green is my second favorite player.


If there ever was a chance for the Celtics to get by Miami, this is there best and probably last chance.

Wow...no arrogance here at all. The reason Novak is an appropriate comparison is not specifically the talent level but the role in the offense. People have explained this on numerous occasions. It doesn't matter what Ray may be capable of if given the ball enough times. What matters is the role he fits within the Miami offense. And that role is that of which Novak fits for NYK. They are gonna play "energy off the bench, 3-point shooters". That is it. Their shots will come as a function of the offensive execution, not a desire to run offense through them. As a result both could put up a 20 point game here or there on open looks. But due to the fact that both Novak and Allen will be down the list in terms of scoring hierarchy, neither will get enough shots to score a lot. Ray got 11spg here in Boston as the 3rd banana. At best, he is 4th and probably tied for 4th with 1 or 2 other people. There will be games where Ray may not score at all. But he's not going to be getting a lot of shots in Miami.

And again, I don't get the insistence on trying to deflect away from Ray's role in Miami with perceived flaws of Rondo or Paul. It doesn't work. It has nothing to do with nothing. It makes you look petty and combative.