Jeff Green - 2nd worst contract of the summer

[ballin]

According to TheNBAGeek:

http://www.thenbageek.com/articles/the-10-worst-2012-13-contracts

"This contract is almost tragic. Watching this unfold must have been enormously painful for our resident Celtic fan Arturo. Before the 11/12 season, Boston signed Green to a one-year, $9 million dollar deal, which kind of had everyone asking "Huh?", and which essentially negated the upgrade that Boston made by trading away the terrible Glen Davis for the passable Brandon Bass. Then, fate dealt Jeff Green a terrible blow in the form of a heart condition, and although this was very bad for Jeff Green, it saved the Celtics from making a big mistake, as his contract was nullified.

Flash forward to a year later, when Boston is surely not competing with anybody for Green's services. It was doubtful he was worth that price before; now he's coming off a heart condition and a year of not playing, but Boston decides that not only is he still worth $9 million, but also says "hey, sign me up for 3 more!" It's got to be soul-crushing for Boston fans to see huge amounts of salary come off the books this offseason, only to be spent on guys like Jason Terry (waaay past his prime), Courtney Lee (not bad but you can get 'not bad' for half his price), and Jeff Green.

Now, it woud be one thing if Green were overpaid because he's merely "not bad", like Terry and Lee. Unfortunately, Green is, in fact, quite bad. He's a horrible rebounder, a below-average shooter, he's bad at getting to the line, he doesn't get many blocks, steals or assists, and isn't even a good 3-point shooter. In four years, he's never come close to average production, and now he's coming off of a year of not playing. Which part of this makes a GM reach for the checkbook? And did I mention that no one else is really bidding for him? What the hell is going on here?

But wait, it gets worse! In addition to being grossly overpaid, he'll probably take away playing time from Jared Sullinger, who was one of the best big man in the draft, and is the perfect guy to slot in at PF next to Garnett, whom Doc has relocated to center. And don't tell me he's really supposed to be an SF. They have a guy named Paul Pierce who's pretty good at that. Did they pay $9 million for a backup SF?

My prediction is that in a year or so when Rondo demands a trade, Boston will be making it known that whoever wants him has to take back Green. I'm running out of synonyms for "horrible" and "awful" and "terrible" but this contract is all of them."


-I hate to say it, but I agree with every word.

[Roy H.]

I'm not familiar with the website, but that seems like slanted rhetoric and in large parts nonsense.

Seriously?  Jason Terry is "waaay" past his prime, despite his Finals performance one season ago?  Jeff Green has never approached average? 

I agree that 4 years, $36 million fully guaranteed is a mistake, but I don't think this article added anything more than a biased, slanted forums post.

[kozlodoev]

I'm not familiar with the website, but that seems like slanted rhetoric and in large parts nonsense.

Seriously?  Jason Terry is "waaay" past his prime, despite his Finals performance one season ago?  Jeff Green has never approached average? 

I agree that 4 years, $36 million fully guaranteed is a mistake, but I don't think this article added anything more than a biased, slanted forums post.

Pretty much what Roy said. I've seen (multiple) random posts on CB that are better than this pile of fan fiction.

But then again, this guy thinks that Ilyasova, Asik and Anderson were the top three deals of the summer 

[azzenfrost]

Can't be the worst contract since nothing's signed yet.

[Roy H.]

Interestingly, the author of this article thinks Omer Asik should be paid $10+ million per season.

[Who]

I'm not familiar with the website, but that seems like slanted rhetoric and in large parts nonsense.

I believe it's a win-shares based site. If you rate well in that, they like you. If not, they don't. All about the numbers. Howe well win-shares rates you or not.

[LooseCannon]

Jason Terry is "waaay" past his prime, despite his Finals performance one season ago?

I think it is reasonable to say that Jason Terry is 3-4 seasons removed from his peak.  He's probably not going to be a worthless player next season, but he might be by the end of his contract.

[BballTim]

I'm not familiar with the website, but that seems like slanted rhetoric and in large parts nonsense.

Seriously?  Jason Terry is "waaay" past his prime, despite his Finals performance one season ago?  Jeff Green has never approached average? 

I agree that 4 years, $36 million fully guaranteed is a mistake, but I don't think this article added anything more than a biased, slanted forums post.

  I'm not that thrilled with the price, but he mentions multiple times that no other team was offering Green similar money. I'll go out on a limb and guess that he doesn't have the slightest idea whether his claim is true or not.

[MJohnnyboy]

I think this guy is a Celtics hater. How is Jason Terry waaayyy past his prime? 15.1 points average this year? Never really had injury problems throughout his career. Not exactly warning signs of being past his prime. Wouldn't Steve Nash or Ray Allen, two older players who have had injury problems, be much more likely to show their age?

Courtney Lee is "Not bad"? And by that you mean the best defensive guard on the market? 26, athletic, and a sharpshooter? What other options were there? I'm not sure where that guy is getting that from.

I agree that Green is overpaid, but we still don't know what to expect from him. For all we know he could be the heir apparent to the truth, and for all we know he's just a benchwarmer.

I read more of his article, and he went on to say Matt Barnes would have been a better find at a 1/3 of the money they gave Jamal Crawford. You mean the same Matt Barnes who disappears come playoff time whose defensive skills are incredibly overrated (I've seen Pierce make him his "female dog") is worth taking the risk over Crawford? Don't think so.

Something tells me this guy might be a Lakers fan.

EDIT: Yup he's a Lakers fan. He thought Greg Stiemsma was a great addition to the Timberwolves and it was stupid for the C's to let him go. Apparently he didn't see how Stiemsma constantly got burned the guards that drove right past him in the playoffs. He most definitely wants to take any chance he can get to bash the C's.

[lightspeed5]

Greens potential is a poor mans lebron. He is one of about 3 players who can legitamately defend lebron. imagine a pierce and green double team on lebron...

[Lightskinsmurf]

I feel like my IQ dropped from reading this.

[xmuscularghandix]

Jeff Green will be huge for the Celtics off the bench and as a spot starter. But you really can't judge the guy based on half a season where he had no training camp, and was coming off the bench for the first time in his career... not to mention filling in for the legendary #43 

[pearljammer10]

I'm not familiar with the website, but that seems like slanted rhetoric and in large parts nonsense.

Seriously?  Jason Terry is "waaay" past his prime, despite his Finals performance one season ago?  Jeff Green has never approached average? 

I agree that 4 years, $36 million fully guaranteed is a mistake, but I don't think this article added anything more than a biased, slanted forums post.

Pretty much what Roy said. I've seen (multiple) random posts on CB that are better than this pile of fan fiction.

But then again, this guy thinks that Ilyasova, Asik and Anderson were the top three deals of the summer 

haha great point with the asik line. Looks like this guy is just trying to stir up talk by taking a devils advocate approach to reality. the more idiot statements he makes and the more against the truth he goes with absurd statements, the more people will read his crap.

[CelticSooner]

The free agent market is all out of whack, C's had no choice unless they wanted a huge hole behind Pierce. Yes he's overpaid. I think he will turn some heads though. Playing in the C's system and with Rondo will do Green wonders IMO.

[banty19]

These clowns take Wins Produced (from Wages of Wins) and base their opinions almost solely on them. They were convinced Landry Fields was one of the best players in the NBA. Jeff Green appears to be one of the worst because of his low rebounding numbers.

To be fair, Wins Produced is generally a pretty solid stat. It's been very good at weeding out overrated stars like Allen Iverson and Carmelo Anthony. But it also favors high-rebounding, low usage players like Marcus Camby, Fields, and Reggie Evans. These guys are nice players that can contribute to a team, but they're not stars like Wins Produced would believe.

So back to Green... as much as I want to say these guys are just a bunch of dorks, I have to agree with them a little. Green was pretty bad back in 2011 (based on stats and watching) and he just came off major heart surgery. It was definitely an overpay and could be a disaster if he has further health issues. But if he stays on the court, he'll be at least a solid defender and has the potential to be a Pierce-like slasher and shooter.