2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"

[ronaldo943]

Are we the favorites to win the southeast?

[Who]

Are we the favorites to win the southeast?

Atlanta still has a very strong team.

Who else is in the division? I have no idea who is in what division these days.

[BigAlTheFuture]

Are we the favorites to win the southeast?

Atlanta still has a very strong team.

Who else is in the division? I have no idea who is in what division these days.

Orlando (riah32) and Miami (RIPRED)

[Lucky17]

Are we the favorites to win the southeast?

Post your new roster in the roster thread.

It may take a while, but if everyone could do so, comparisons will be much easier.

[ronaldo943]

Are we the favorites to win the southeast?

Atlanta still has a very strong team.

Who else is in the division? I have no idea who is in what division these days.

yea i think it is between us and them but i feel like our depth will win it for us since they dont have much depth

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Through 11

Cleveland Derps:

Projected starting line-up and rotations:



PG - Jeremy Lin / Jerryd Bayless / Derek Fisher
SG - Brandon Rush  /  Brandon Roy  /  (MKG)
SF - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist  /  Harrison Barnes
PF - Kenneth Faried  /  Kenyon Martin  /  Jason Smith
C  - Andrew Bogut  /  Andre Drummond  /  (Smith)[/size



Roy, while listed at SG will be running point if he plays with Bayless.

Just me, but that's a pretty deep bench if you ask me. And this is assuming Roy is at least 70% of what he used to be, which is very plausible

Lottery team.


The best in their prime talent is a huge injury question mark.

That's looking at the injury thing glass half empty. How about looking at it half full?

Roy is obviously cleared to play. An although without explosion, he's still a better SG than most of them coming off the bench. Bogut never had recurring injuries, and when healthy, is a 15/10/2 blocks guy, top 5 center easily.

[wdleehi]

Through 11

Cleveland Derps:

Projected starting line-up and rotations:



PG - Jeremy Lin / Jerryd Bayless / Derek Fisher
SG - Brandon Rush  /  Brandon Roy  /  (MKG)
SF - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist  /  Harrison Barnes
PF - Kenneth Faried  /  Kenyon Martin  /  Jason Smith
C  - Andrew Bogut  /  Andre Drummond  /  (Smith)[/size



Roy, while listed at SG will be running point if he plays with Bayless.

Just me, but that's a pretty deep bench if you ask me. And this is assuming Roy is at least 70% of what he used to be, which is very plausible

Lottery team.


The best in their prime talent is a huge injury question mark.

That's looking at the injury thing glass half empty. How about looking at it half full?

Roy is obviously cleared to play. An although without explosion, he's still a better SG than most of them coming off the bench. Bogut never had recurring injuries, and when healthy, is a 15/10/2 blocks guy, top 5 center easily.

I am not talking about Roy.  He is done.

I was talking about Bogut. 

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Through 11

Cleveland Derps:

Projected starting line-up and rotations:



PG - Jeremy Lin / Jerryd Bayless / Derek Fisher
SG - Brandon Rush  /  Brandon Roy  /  (MKG)
SF - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist  /  Harrison Barnes
PF - Kenneth Faried  /  Kenyon Martin  /  Jason Smith
C  - Andrew Bogut  /  Andre Drummond  /  (Smith)[/size



Roy, while listed at SG will be running point if he plays with Bayless.

Just me, but that's a pretty deep bench if you ask me. And this is assuming Roy is at least 70% of what he used to be, which is very plausible

Lottery team.


The best in their prime talent is a huge injury question mark.

That's looking at the injury thing glass half empty. How about looking at it half full?

Roy is obviously cleared to play. An although without explosion, he's still a better SG than most of them coming off the bench. Bogut never had recurring injuries, and when healthy, is a 15/10/2 blocks guy, top 5 center easily.

I am not talking about Roy.  He is done.

I was talking about Bogut.

Okay fair enough. Still, same argument Commish, he had really bad breaks (no pun intended) but never had a nagging injury here in there. It's not that he always injures the same body part. he's not Amare with a nagging back problem or Bynum from a couple years ago with recurring knee injuries. Bogut's injury history and therefore label him as "injury prone" is understandable, but again, they are not recurring. The risk I believe for Bogut on injuries is not as high as most people think.

And when, not if, he's healthy, he's one of the top centers in the league.

Oh and jury is not out on Roy, last time he played he was productive for limited minutes, that's  before the treatment he got, whatever it was. While I know the risk is very high, to call him done right away is probably not correct.

[The Walker Wiggle]

The Dubs

Head coach: Jerry Sloan

Trying out some different front court looks.

SG Manu Ginobili/ Delonte West
SG Klay Thompson
Point Forward Andre Iguodala
PF Mirza Teletovic/ Darrell Arthur
C Anthony Davis/ Channing Frye/ Bismack Biyombo

OR

PF Anthony Davis
C Darrell Arthur

[Lucky17]

The Dubs

Head coach: Jerry Sloan

Trying out some different front court looks.

SG Manu Ginobili/ Delonte West
SG Klay Thompson
Point Forward Andre Iguodala
PF Mirza Teletovic/ Darrell Arthur
C Anthony Davis/ Channing Frye/ Bismack Biyombo

OR

PF Anthony Davis
C Darrell Arthur

I can't imagine starting two first-year players will do much good for Sloan's blood pressure.

Assuming he still has blood. Perhaps it's embalming fluid at this point.

[Who]

The Dubs

Head coach: Jerry Sloan

Trying out some different front court looks.

SG Manu Ginobili/ Delonte West
SG Klay Thompson
Point Forward Andre Iguodala
PF Mirza Teletovic/ Darrell Arthur
C Anthony Davis/ Channing Frye/ Bismack Biyombo

OR

PF Anthony Davis
C Darrell Arthur

PG: Delonte West, (TBD)
SG: Manu Ginobili, Klay Thompson
SF: Andre Iguodala, Mirza Teletovic
PF: Channing Frye, Darrell Arthur
C:  Anthony Davis, Bismack Biyombo

I am not seeing the advantage in starting Manu, Klay and Iggy together on the perimeter. Neither Klay or Manu is a good defensive option at PG. Having Iggy defend the point takes him off the wing. Klay Thompson is a non-rebounder so you are not getting an advantage on the boards either.

Offensively, neither Manu or Klay have a power game (post up play, out-muscling smaller guys on drives, general physical basketball). Most teams will probably put their PG on Klay Thompson. I have never seen him in the post. Not a great ball-handler. I think opponents will be able to hide their PG fairly effectively on him. Some extra height/length there on his shot-release which is good ... but in the overall picture, seems fairly minor.

I don't see the advantage in starting the three guys together. I think you are better off starting Delonte West who is a better defender/rebounder at PG and gives you an extra ball-handler / passer who will allow Manu and Iggy to play the roles they are most accustomed to.

I can't consider Frye or D.Arthur centers alongside a guy like Anthony Davis. Conceptually, that just seems wrong to me. Davis is the very definition of a center and Frye + Arthur are the definition of a big forward. So I would list it like that.

With your final two picks, I'd love to see you add another PG + a big bodied center. Someone with legitimate size and physical power - preferably a seven footer with 260+lbs of heft. Someone like that will be useful from time to time for your smaller front-line.

[wdleehi]

The Dubs

Head coach: Jerry Sloan

Trying out some different front court looks.

SG Manu Ginobili/ Delonte West
SG Klay Thompson
Point Forward Andre Iguodala
PF Mirza Teletovic/ Darrell Arthur
C Anthony Davis/ Channing Frye/ Bismack Biyombo

OR

PF Anthony Davis
C Darrell Arthur

Sloan without a PG?   Makes no sense. 


He has a system.  Your team is not made for that system.

[Who]

Utah Jazz

PG: Deron Williams, Rodney Stuckey
SG: Gordon Hayward, (Stuckey)
SF: Danilo Gallinari, Ronnie Brewer
PF: Zach Randolph, Andrei Kirilenko
C:  Omer Asik, (Z.Randolph)


Rest of Bench: Will Bynum (dribble penetration scorer/playmaker PG), Anthony Morrow (high level jump-shooter and floor spacer), Boris Diaw (skilled PF with girth) Kosta Koufos (power based center), Chris Andersen (mobile shot-blocker)

Head Coach: Stan Van Gundy

[Rondo2287]

Utah Jazz

PG: Deron Williams, Rodney Stuckey
SG: Gordon Hayward, (Stuckey)
SF: Danilo Gallinari, Ronnie Brewer
PF: Zach Randolph, Andrei Kirilenko
C:  Omer Asik, (Z.Randolph)


Rest of Bench: Will Bynum (creative PG), Anthony Morrow (floor spacer), Boris Diaw (skilled PF with girth) Kosta Koufos (power based center), Chris Andersen (mobile shot-blocker)

Head Coach: Stan Van Gundy

I dig it, your Deron, gallinari, randolph combo works well together.  I havent watched enough of Hayward to have a strong evaluation either way, but i understand hes pretty soli.

My only question is how do you think you matchup with teams that have some of the better scoring centers in the league?  Do you think Asik's lack of offensive prowess will hurt you?

[Roy H.]

Utah Jazz

PG: Deron Williams, Rodney Stuckey
SG: Gordon Hayward, (Stuckey)
SF: Danilo Gallinari, Ronnie Brewer
PF: Zach Randolph, Andrei Kirilenko
C:  Omer Asik, (Z.Randolph)


Rest of Bench: Will Bynum (creative PG), Anthony Morrow (floor spacer), Boris Diaw (skilled PF with girth) Kosta Koufos (power based center), Chris Andersen (mobile shot-blocker)

Head Coach: Stan Van Gundy

I like this team a lot.  Obviously, Deron needs to improve his defense back to where it was in Utah; he's been atrocious in New Jersey.  I also have some questions about how poorly Randolph played last year, and about whether Asik can be a starting center.

It's a well-constructed team, though.  I like a strong defender next to Randolph, and I like the two-man game that Deron and Randolph will play.  I also like the bench, at least in terms of Morrow, Diaw, and Anderson.

Your team is definitely in the upper tier in the West.  I'd put them behind Dallas and LA, but nobody else jumps out as being clearly better.