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Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2012, 03:36:13 PM »

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Bradley is here to stay get use to it. Why get rid of a guy that can single handedly lock down on D WADE. Talk about stupid.

He had a nice block and did better than expected, but locking down Wade? Wade had 15 and 20 points in the two games, he played against us with Bradley as the starter.

As for Jonas Valenciunas, he was the MVP in the 2011 FIBA Under-19 World Championship, which Lithuania won (USA was no. 5, with players such as Jeremy Lamb, Meyers Leonard, Kendall Marshall and Tim Hardaway Jr.). V. will be the starting center for the Raptors soon enough, and will probably compete for ROY. The only reason he dropped to fifth pick last year was buyout problems with his team in Lithuania.

Just watch him in the Olympics. We would have to give up a lot more than Bradley to get him.

Besides that, I want to keep Bradley around for a long time :)

Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2012, 03:41:18 PM »

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I'm not nearly as high on Avery Bradley as most of this forum is.  I still see him as a backup.  He's an extremely undersized shooting guard best suited for the bench and it seems Jason Terry has that role locked up.  Courtney Lee seems like someone who makes more sense as a starting shooting guard.  If not, I'd prefer starting Pierce at SG and JEff Green at his natural SF.  Jeff sure as heck is getting paid like a starter. 

If Bradley has any trade value, I think he should be used in trade package for a legit big.  Unfortunately, I don't see any reason why he'd have trade value.  He had a month of solid shooting and a small sample size of aggressive defense... that's not enough to really build up a lot of interest around the league.  Boston probably values him a heck of a lot more than any team outside of Boston.  I said prior to the draft that I didn't even think we could get a mid 1st rounder straight up for Bradley... people on this forum have an unrealistic perception of him.

But who knows... maybe he defies the odds and becomes a consistent starting shooting guard despite the fact he's 6'2 and 180 pounds.

Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2012, 03:44:54 PM »

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Bradley is here to stay get use to it. Why get rid of a guy that can single handedly lock down on D WADE. Talk about stupid.

He had a nice block and did better than expected, but locking down Wade? Wade had 15 and 20 points in the two games, he played against us with Bradley as the starter.

As for Jonas Valenciunas, he was the MVP in the 2011 FIBA Under-19 World Championship, which Lithuania won (USA was no. 5, with players such as Jeremy Lamb, Meyers Leonard, Kendall Marshall and Tim Hardaway Jr.). V. will be the starting center for the Raptors soon enough, and will probably compete for ROY. The only reason he dropped to fifth pick last year was buyout problems with his team in Lithuania.

Just watch him in the Olympics. We would have to give up a lot more than Bradley to get him.

Besides that, I want to keep Bradley around for a long time :)
No chance of getting Jonas for Bradley.  Chad Ford has said that Jonas would have "unquestionably" been the #2 pick in this draft behind Anthony Davis... "hands down".   Bradley is an extremely undersized shooting guard who had a month of inspired play when he was shooting lights out.... he then went back to shooting 36% (partially because of his injury).

Speaking of injuries... when Bradley matched up with Wade, Wade was definitely not him self.  He missed games before and after both matchups... Wade was injured and he still wasn't locked down.  Keep in mind, Wade is actually a bit undersized for a shooting guard as well.  When Bradley matched up with Joe Johnson during the regular season, Johnson abused him with size.


Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2012, 03:45:48 PM »

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Forget , if he comes back and retains the skill level he was at , he is invaluable.  Bradley and Wilcox shown like stars when the rest of the team bulb was flickering.

He is totally unique, much in the smae way ROndo is and irreplaceable as a defensive specialist .

Few few players maybe 2-3 that I would consider letting him go for.  Maybe as Part of a package for Kevin Love , but that would be about it.

NO ...to trading Bradley

Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2012, 03:46:25 PM »

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Way off on your Tradar, home skillet. He's 21, paid in peanuts, and a beast in the making.

Exactly why he could possibly fetch a lot through trade.

I think the OP makes a lot of sense, it's something I've thought about already myself.

If we could trade something like Bradley + Melo + Bass for a Marc Gasol or Hibbert type center, I think we would have to.  (while obviously those teams wouldn't do that deal at this time)

I think the CBA may need to be amended a couple two/tree times for that trade to be possible.
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Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2012, 03:50:53 PM »

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If Ainge has a big target and Bradley is the last piece needed, then yes, he can be traded.





But I don't see him traded for just the point of trading. 

Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2012, 03:55:13 PM »

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Considering Rondo is going to go 35-40 minutes every night, Lee 28-32, and Jet maybe 25-30, there really aren't enough minutes for AB.  Also when's the last time you've seen a 3 man SG rotation?  The C's are stacked at that position and it's not likely any minutes are available at the 3 (Pierce/Green)even if they wanted to play small ball.  It may just be the injuries to AB are more serious than we know.  But if he's healthy I don't see him getting minutes over the new $5m and $4m men.  Wouldn't be surprised to see him traded if it's for a critical need (a solid big).  

Anyways I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not entirely sold on AB, and convinced that he can keep up his level of play from last year.  His little run wasn't any longer than say Jeremy Lin's, and not nearly as impressive.  Yet everyone here seems to doubt Lin's ability, but think AB is going to be a monster player; I'm not so sure about that.

Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2012, 03:57:13 PM »

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Considering Rondo is going to go 35-40 minutes every night, Lee 28-32, and Jet maybe 25-30, there really aren't enough minutes for AB.  Also when's the last time you've seen a 3 man SG rotation?  The C's are stacked at that position and it's not likely any minutes are available at the 3 (Pierce/Green)even if they wanted to play small ball.  It may just be the injuries to AB are more serious than we know.  But if he's healthy I don't see him getting minutes over the new $5m and $4m men.  Wouldn't be surprised to see him traded if it's for a critical need (a solid big).  

Anyways I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not entirely sold on AB, and convinced that he can keep up his level of play from last year.  His little run wasn't any longer than say Jeremy Lin's, and not nearly as impressive.  Yet everyone here seems to doubt Lin's ability, but think AB is going to be a monster player; I'm not so sure about that.


He is also cheap, unlike Lin.



Lee will have to play some minutes at SF as well. 

Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2012, 04:06:38 PM »

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I don't think it's the time to trade Bradley.  It'd be one thing if he was healthy and we were looking to capitalize on his phenomenal end of the season.  But his health probably wipes out any extra value he got from that spurt.  I'm sure Danny can get something for him, but I don't think he can maximize his value right now.  It's better to wait to see how he and Lee fit, and decide down the road who we are better off moving (or who we can get more for). 

I have a feeling that this year will be quiet with trades and that Ainge will look to build value over the next year or two before reassessing things somewhere between the trade deadline of 2014 and 2015.  At the 2014 deadline he'll be facing Pierce and   Bradley (though he'd have a QO option) entering free agency the following summer and in 2015 he'll be facing KG, Rondo, and Bass (with Sullinger and Melo being RFAs) entering free agency at the end of the year.  Lee and Green will each only have one year left. 

Having expiring contracts of desirable players, coupled with good young players with few years left on their deal should give Danny lots of flexibility. 

Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2012, 04:07:47 PM »

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I'm not nearly as high on Avery Bradley as most of this forum is.  I still see him as a backup.  He's an extremely undersized shooting guard best suited for the bench and it seems Jason Terry has that role locked up.  Courtney Lee seems like someone who makes more sense as a starting shooting guard.  If not, I'd prefer starting Pierce at SG and JEff Green at his natural SF.  Jeff sure as heck is getting paid like a starter. 

If Bradley has any trade value, I think he should be used in trade package for a legit big.  Unfortunately, I don't see any reason why he'd have trade value.  He had a month of solid shooting and a small sample size of aggressive defense... that's not enough to really build up a lot of interest around the league.  Boston probably values him a heck of a lot more than any team outside of Boston.  I said prior to the draft that I didn't even think we could get a mid 1st rounder straight up for Bradley... people on this forum have an unrealistic perception of him.

But who knows... maybe he defies the odds and becomes a consistent starting shooting guard despite the fact he's 6'2 and 180 pounds.
So you're saying starting Bradley is bad because he's short but you're perfectly fine with putting a 35 year old slow PF at SG? That makes sense.

Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2012, 04:19:01 PM »

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I'll trade Bradley for PHX Suns unprotected 1st next year.

They need a SG and if we're lucky the Suns will have top 3 pick, hopefully we get Nerlens Noel.

Dragic/Marshall
Bradley/Brown
Beasley
Frye/Warrick
Gortat/Lopez

That team will probably have a bottom 5 record next season.

Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2012, 04:23:41 PM »

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I dont get why some think Avery is being replaced by Lee. Before Danny signed Lee, he was trying to bring Ray back along with Jason Terry. He wasnt planning on replacing Avery back then and hes not now. I think Danny sees Avery as a huge part of our future. Avery is worth way more to this team than Terry or Lee, no offense to them but Avery is that important.

Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2012, 04:47:21 PM »

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I'll trade Bradley for PHX Suns unprotected 1st next year.

They need a SG and if we're lucky the Suns will have top 3 pick, hopefully we get Nerlens Noel.

Dragic/Marshall
Bradley/Brown
Beasley
Frye/Warrick
Gortat/Lopez

That team will probably have a bottom 5 record next season.


Dragic/Marshall
Bradley/Brown
Beasley/Dudley
Scola/Morris
Gortat/Lopez

I updated their roster, maybe they'll trade Frye now with Scola on board. I don't think that roster is going to make the playoffs in the west.

Minnesota is better, Mavs,Utah,GSW and Portland are better. Denver,Spurs,Clips,Lakers,Grizzlies,OKC definitely better and Houston is going to be better. Wether they keep their rookies or get Howard.

The Suns,Kings and Hornets are bottom 3 teams in the West.

Bobcats,Magic and Sixers bottom in the east. I could see them winning the lottery.

Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2012, 04:51:20 PM »

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Avery Bradley is no different than anyone else on the roster.

He could be traded if the package coming back matches what management thinks is his worth, or better. But I have to think that price is pretty expensive, so I think he's an unlikely chip to move.

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Re: i predict avery bradley will be traded
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2012, 04:57:44 PM »

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I'm not nearly as high on Avery Bradley as most of this forum is.  I still see him as a backup.  He's an extremely undersized shooting guard best suited for the bench and it seems Jason Terry has that role locked up.  Courtney Lee seems like someone who makes more sense as a starting shooting guard.  If not, I'd prefer starting Pierce at SG and JEff Green at his natural SF.  Jeff sure as heck is getting paid like a starter. 

If Bradley has any trade value, I think he should be used in trade package for a legit big.  Unfortunately, I don't see any reason why he'd have trade value.  He had a month of solid shooting and a small sample size of aggressive defense... that's not enough to really build up a lot of interest around the league.  Boston probably values him a heck of a lot more than any team outside of Boston.  I said prior to the draft that I didn't even think we could get a mid 1st rounder straight up for Bradley... people on this forum have an unrealistic perception of him.

But who knows... maybe he defies the odds and becomes a consistent starting shooting guard despite the fact he's 6'2 and 180 pounds.
So you're saying starting Bradley is bad because he's short but you're perfectly fine with putting a 35 year old slow PF at SG? That makes sense.

35 year old slow PF?  What?  Pierce is 6'7 235.  Joe JOhnson is 6'7 240.  Pierce has played shooting guard before.  He can create his own shot and he can get open.  On defense, I don't mind him covering other shooting guards.  People say "that will wear him out"... I think guarding 6'9 250 pound LeBron James wears him out.  WE are paying Jeff Green like a starter... might as well start him.

Maybe Pierce AND Bradley should be traded... find a quality PF or C to put next to KG.  Trade Pierce to Utah for Big AL or something.  Lol