four players and three second round picks?

[LooseCannon]

You realize that second round picks are used the the second round of the NBA Draft? You know, the one where one or two out of every hundred or so 2nd round picks actually turn out to be a significant NBA player.

It's more like 5-10 second rounders per draft become significant NBA players, where significant means not necessarily a starter, but consistently playing non-garbage minutes at their peak.  Obviously, most of those come from players taken in the first half of the second round.

Some second round picks have exactly the value that Moore had, easy to sign to a multi-year contract with unguaranteed years so they can be used as trade ballast to a team that will cut them.

[J_Mill35]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1MLu9hkuYo

I didn't think that he could do this just by looking at him...
But yes, he is just a high iq basketball player who can run well with rondo, is a close friend of docs, and will only help us as the season goes on with depth

[merkins]

Safe to say we cleared everything we had left that had value and wasn't going to be part of the future. Our entire 2011 draft, and no second rounders next year.  Lee better be worth it.

[Edgar]

even if he doesnt we now have roster space.
Fon noone capable to fill it properly

If lee is a good 6th or 7th man and lives to the expectation as is in the posey-ray medium style I will be ecstatic.

[j804]

even if he doesnt we now have roster space.
Fon noone capable to fill it properly

If lee is a good 6th or 7th man and lives to the expectation as is in the posey-ray medium style I will be ecstatic.

Lee will be fine the one I'm worried about is Green

[Geo123]

Okay folks what exactly is the lovefest with Lee?

Well basically you traded 4 players (of which only 2 probably were going to be on your team) and 3 #2 picks (which on average don't contribute to a championship caliber team at all for a starting SG who's a good defender, good 3 point shooter and pretty good penetrator.  He scores double figures and plus he's young has good size (which we needed at SG) and wants to be here.

[J_Mill35]

i just hope that our guards are devoted to the team and not themselves because with such a deep team, lee won't be seeing 30min like in houston after bradley returns and neither will terry... unless Doc works something out

[xmuscularghandix]

Not really 4 players. It's 2 players and 2 guys that weren't going to play for you next year.

As for the pics I'm a little disapointed with losing the 2nd from Charlotte.

I look at this as Charlotte's 2nd rounder, Jajuan Johnson, and E'Twuan Moore for Courtney Lee.

[PAOBoston]

what's not to like about this deal?

the c's just traded 4 scrubs for 3 future most-likely-to-be scrubs for a 6'5'' 26 yeard old 2 guard that can shoot the 3, run with rondo, and play some defense. GREAT move.

[TripleOT]

The amount of players and pick involved isn't about Lee's talents.  it's about the NBA's salary rules.  The Cs wanted something, Lee, but couldn't meet his price without first Houston agreeing to a S and T and then Portland facilitating the deal by giving up some of their caproom for the Cs to give Lee the money he wanted.  

Houston got a second round pick and a marginal NBA player on a small expiring deal, in JJJ, for their trouble.  They probably got enough money to pay him this year too.  Portland got two second round picks, and (probably) free third string SF, in Sasha, with the cash the Cs sent them.  

So the question isn't whether Courtney Lee is worth second round draft choices and four players, all of whom wouldn't be contributing seriously to this team's playoff run this season.

The question is whether it's worth four unneeded players and three second round draft picks (and $3m)for the Cs to have the ability under the CBA to to add another quality player to their rotation as they try to win the title. It obviously was.  

 



  

[mctyson]

Okay folks what exactly is the lovefest with Lee?

Lee is a former 1st round pick who is a proven starter in the NBA at the SG position.  There are only so many of those types of players around.

We gave up a former 1st round pick who is a completely unproven player (JJJ), who may or may not ever crack at team's rotation.  We gave up a former 2nd round pick who is also completely unproven (E Moore), though a little bit less so than JJJ, simply because we saw him play more last year.

We gave up 2 end of the bench bodies who were nothing more than filler of roster spots, and are easily replaceable.

The future 2nd round picks had to go to sweeten the deal for Houston and Portland (who basically facilitated it for us), and also because we have few, if any, roster spots open for 2nd round picks over the next 3 years.  

We drafted 3 rookies this year.  Next year we will have 2 more.  Almost our entire roster is signed for a 3-year run.  Having those additional 2nd round picks would have forced someone to go eventually.  They only give you 15 spots on a team.

2nd round picks are a dime a dozen.  Courtney Lee is not.

[Roy H.]

It's a good trade for all three teams.

Portland gets a free player and two seconds, one of which could end up having some value.

Houston gets what is likely to be the 31st pick in the draft (sometimes a very valuable pick, if the right international player is available).

Boston gets a MLE-level player, who they couldn't have acquired otherwise, and gives up assets that aren't likely to help them win now.

[Celtics18]

I'm very disappointed to see JJJ go, but I think Courtney will prove to be worth it.  The rest of the guys were purely filler and I'm not going to lose sleep over second round draft picks. 

[cman88]

I said this in another thread, but Courtney Lee is the Brandon bass of SG's

hes not a big name or an all-star...but hes a starting calibar player who can consistently give you 12ppg and thats what this team needed...its the type of role-player this team needed...and hes still pretty young at 26years old

Jajuan johnson didnt look like he improved his game much at all, and already had been bumped in the rotation by Jared sullinger...Moore looks promising, but his ceiling is likely keyon dooling

[mctyson]

I look at this as Charlotte's 2nd rounder, Jajuan Johnson, and E'Twuan Moore for Courtney Lee.

I wouldn't even throw Moore into the equation, since he is being cut by Houston.  He was basically salary filler for the deal.

A critic can lament losing Moore, but with both Terry and Lee on the team there are no minutes for Moore to play.  Terry will be our backup PG.