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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #975 on: July 24, 2012, 07:28:33 PM »

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Who plays C and who plays PF for LA? Both are PFs.

Al Horford has been a Center every year he's been in the league and was an All-NBA center in 2010-2011

Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #976 on: July 24, 2012, 07:29:14 PM »

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I will pay well for an early 3rd rounder.

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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #977 on: July 24, 2012, 07:31:07 PM »

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I will pay well for an early 3rd rounder.



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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #978 on: July 24, 2012, 07:33:53 PM »

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I will pay well for an early 3rd rounder.



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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #979 on: July 24, 2012, 07:35:32 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #980 on: July 24, 2012, 07:37:56 PM »

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2 days off from this thing. Unless someone wants to PM me with a trade offer for either Kevin Love, Steve Nash, or Rudy Gay. Will only part with them if I get a really good offer, though.
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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #981 on: July 24, 2012, 07:39:42 PM »

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Just my 2 cents:

I think Gainesville might be misinterpreting the rules regarding the first two rounds.




haha, very well could be. And if I were wrong, it wouldn't be the first time -- unlike a few GMs who are still batting 1.000

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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #982 on: July 24, 2012, 07:40:39 PM »

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man the more i sit here the more i am just grinding my teeth over my joe johnson trade.

i hade a lot of progress on a deal for aldridge before i lept at johnson.  i love the horford/alrdidge mix, but i would've loved the howrd/aldridge mix even more...


--also, my trade disaster ended up costing me an arm and a leg. i screwed champkind out of nash so i felt i had to compensate him accordingly.

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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #983 on: July 24, 2012, 07:58:21 PM »

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Let me take a second to defend my picks, first of all I went with who I think will have the best seasons next year. I also tried to pair players that work well with each other.

Eric Gordon: When healthy he is one of the better scorers in the league. He gets to the line, attacks the rim and can shoot the 3. Athletic player that can run the floor and finish. Very strong, good defender against the two. When he is healthy for the entire year next year this will be looked at as a good pick. Finished the year with his team and looked very good, will continue to improve. 23 years old

Serge Ibaka: One of the most athletic players in the league. Lead the league in shot blocking last year. Can run the floor and finish. Can hit the face up jumper. Already showed great improvement early in his career. Plays very hard with great energy and effort. Expect a big jump next year as far as developing a post move, continuing to improve his jumper, improve his defensive rotation to perfection. Sky is the limit for him at only 22 years old.

Kenneth Faried: Very athletic. Knows as an extremely hard worker. Plays hard, gives maximum effort all the time. Runs the floor excellently. Will develop a jumper and polish his post moves. I expect his numbers to soar in his second season.

3 athletic guys who play extremely hard with strong defense.
I ABSOLUTELY love Faried and Ibaka.

Just not on the same team or in the same lineup. Although they are different sizes, they bring too many similar things and have the same strengths and weaknesses. I would want more diversity in my starting front court.

Well said, nick.  I think the Gordon and Ibaka picks were very solid, no problems here with them.  I like Faried a lot too as a player.  I just think he could have been had later.  I also like Rajon Rondo a lot, but I'd be very critical of someone drafting him if they took him #3 overall in the draft when he could be had later.

A big part of this draft is understanding GM's perspectives on players and using that to get the maximum value out of all of your pick positions and the players you're targetting.  I have no question that 99% of GMs would prefer Noah, Gay, or Hibbert over Faried because they are more established and easier to sell.  Now if you still target Faried as your C, I'm not saying to just pick another player that in your heart you like less.  Instead, trade down, let the other players get drafted, then get your man Faried, but have upgraded your other picks in the meantime.
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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #984 on: July 24, 2012, 08:10:29 PM »

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I am Buying a 3rd

and paying back to back picks in 4th and 5th round for him

Once in a lifetime oportunity for you who want multistars

If you trade with me I will give you a

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and a dozen pupusas.

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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #985 on: July 24, 2012, 08:14:33 PM »

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I had curry pegged as a 4th rounder, great talent but e injuries scare me.  First to second round talent though. And if he is going to be healthy for training camp that's a good way to start things off

I've got him pegged as early 3rd for the same reasons you mentioned.  Those ankles really worry me.

With Lebron, you don't need upside, I think a sure thing would have been the better move and there were some sure things still available.  But I could see how going with the "sure thing" approach around Lebron could be a little boring.

Curry is a sure thing.  He's had two healthy seasons, and one where he had an ankle injury that he kept coming back from too soon because the kid is ultra-competitive (kind of like several of the GMs in here).

Eric Gordon is an injury risk (20+ games missed in each of the last three years).  Andrew Bynum is an injury risk (one healthy season, ever.)  Curry just had one injury-marred season.

Sorry but Curry is far from a sure thing. What have you done for me lately?

Bynum played in 60 of 66 games this past season. Three he missed due to suspension.

Curry missed FORTY games with chronic ankle surgeries and unlike Gordon was unable to come back and play at the end of the season to show his health. No one knows how Curry will come back. He is a reach in the second. I mean he has had multiple sprains to the same ankle and it required surgery. When the same exact part of your body is always getting hurt then it becomes chronic.

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It seems unfair to thrust the "chronic injury" label on Curry already, but with at least seven ankle sprains and surgery in a 16-month period, it's almost unfair not to.

The scariest part of Curry's injury history is its Groundhog Day nature. He's not a player who suffers this nagging injury, then that nagging injury. It's the same ankle, the same ugly twists and turns of said ankle, and the same result.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1113003-steph-curry-and-5-most-frequently-injured-players-in-the-nba/page/2

Now no one on here would say Bynum hasn't had his issues but again he basically completed the entire season last year with no issues. Before this past season he had no rehab. It was all working out. This will be the case this year. For Curry well he will be rehabbing all off-season.

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His early recovery timeline should have him ready to go by 2012 training camp. That's huge because the Warriors are his team now following a trade deadline move that sent fellow starting guard Monta Ellis to the Milwaukee Bucks in a package that garnered center Andrew Bogut in return. One of the league's best pure shooters, Curry has star potential if he can ever stay on the court.

Being back by camp is good but rehab is not the same thing as training.


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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #986 on: July 24, 2012, 08:15:51 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #987 on: July 24, 2012, 08:17:15 PM »

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I had curry pegged as a 4th rounder, great talent but e injuries scare me.  First to second round talent though. And if he is going to be healthy for training camp that's a good way to start things off

I've got him pegged as early 3rd for the same reasons you mentioned.  Those ankles really worry me.

With Lebron, you don't need upside, I think a sure thing would have been the better move and there were some sure things still available.  But I could see how going with the "sure thing" approach around Lebron could be a little boring.

Curry is a sure thing.  He's had two healthy seasons, and one where he had an ankle injury that he kept coming back from too soon because the kid is ultra-competitive (kind of like several of the GMs in here).

Eric Gordon is an injury risk (20+ games missed in each of the last three years).  Andrew Bynum is an injury risk (one healthy season, ever.)  Curry just had one injury-marred season.

Sorry but Curry is far from a sure thing. What have you done for me lately?

Bynum played in 60 of 66 games this past season. Three he missed due to suspension.

Curry missed FORTY games with chronic ankle surgeries and unlike Gordon was unable to come back and play at the end of the season to show his health. No one knows how Curry will come back. He is a reach in the second. I mean he has had multiple sprains to the same ankle and it required surgery. When the same exact part of your body is always getting hurt then it becomes chronic.

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It seems unfair to thrust the "chronic injury" label on Curry already, but with at least seven ankle sprains and surgery in a 16-month period, it's almost unfair not to.

The scariest part of Curry's injury history is its Groundhog Day nature. He's not a player who suffers this nagging injury, then that nagging injury. It's the same ankle, the same ugly twists and turns of said ankle, and the same result.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1113003-steph-curry-and-5-most-frequently-injured-players-in-the-nba/page/2

Now no one on here would say Bynum hasn't had his issues but again he basically completed the entire season last year with no issues. Before this past season he had no rehab. It was all working out. This will be the case this year. For Curry well he will be rehabbing all off-season.

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His early recovery timeline should have him ready to go by 2012 training camp. That's huge because the Warriors are his team now following a trade deadline move that sent fellow starting guard Monta Ellis to the Milwaukee Bucks in a package that garnered center Andrew Bogut in return. One of the league's best pure shooters, Curry has star potential if he can ever stay on the court.

Being back by camp is good but rehab is not the same thing as training.

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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #988 on: July 24, 2012, 08:21:31 PM »

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I had curry pegged as a 4th rounder, great talent but e injuries scare me.  First to second round talent though. And if he is going to be healthy for training camp that's a good way to start things off

I've got him pegged as early 3rd for the same reasons you mentioned.  Those ankles really worry me.

With Lebron, you don't need upside, I think a sure thing would have been the better move and there were some sure things still available.  But I could see how going with the "sure thing" approach around Lebron could be a little boring.

Curry is a sure thing.  He's had two healthy seasons, and one where he had an ankle injury that he kept coming back from too soon because the kid is ultra-competitive (kind of like several of the GMs in here).

Eric Gordon is an injury risk (20+ games missed in each of the last three years).  Andrew Bynum is an injury risk (one healthy season, ever.)  Curry just had one injury-marred season.

Sorry but Curry is far from a sure thing. What have you done for me lately?

Bynum played in 60 of 66 games this past season. Three he missed due to suspension.

Curry missed FORTY games with chronic ankle surgeries and unlike Gordon was unable to come back and play at the end of the season to show his health. No one knows how Curry will come back. He is a reach in the second. I mean he has had multiple sprains to the same ankle and it required surgery. When the same exact part of your body is always getting hurt then it becomes chronic.

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It seems unfair to thrust the "chronic injury" label on Curry already, but with at least seven ankle sprains and surgery in a 16-month period, it's almost unfair not to.

The scariest part of Curry's injury history is its Groundhog Day nature. He's not a player who suffers this nagging injury, then that nagging injury. It's the same ankle, the same ugly twists and turns of said ankle, and the same result.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1113003-steph-curry-and-5-most-frequently-injured-players-in-the-nba/page/2

Now no one on here would say Bynum hasn't had his issues but again he basically completed the entire season last year with no issues. Before this past season he had no rehab. It was all working out. This will be the case this year. For Curry well he will be rehabbing all off-season.

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His early recovery timeline should have him ready to go by 2012 training camp. That's huge because the Warriors are his team now following a trade deadline move that sent fellow starting guard Monta Ellis to the Milwaukee Bucks in a package that garnered center Andrew Bogut in return. One of the league's best pure shooters, Curry has star potential if he can ever stay on the court.

Being back by camp is good but rehab is not the same thing as training.

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Re: 2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"
« Reply #989 on: July 24, 2012, 08:21:47 PM »

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