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Who is better (2012-2013 season)- Ray or Lee?

Ray Allen
35 (48.6%)
Courtney Lee
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Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2012, 11:47:33 PM »

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better for who? For the Celtics it is Lee. I dont care of that other guy.

Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2012, 12:26:05 AM »

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There is absolutely no way that the answer isn't ray and its just ludacris to think otherwise.... With that being said, lee is a great and serviceable replacement for Ray.
What?! Either you guys are suffering from homerism or you don't know basketball. What can ray do RIGHT NOW better than LEE? Hit 3's THAT'S IT! Lee does everything else better!

Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2012, 12:40:58 AM »

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There is absolutely no way that the answer isn't ray and its just ludacris to think otherwise.... With that being said, lee is a great and serviceable replacement for Ray.
What?! Either you guys are suffering from homerism or you don't know basketball. What can ray do RIGHT NOW better than LEE? Hit 3's THAT'S IT! Lee does everything else better!

Even at 36 years old and hobbling, barley able to walk... Ray beat Lee in all the major statistical categories last year. He shot 46% from the field and 45% from beyond three. He averaged more boards and assists. Steals, blocks, and turnovers were virtually the same. And this is just last year. Ray has a career average of 20 ppg shooting 40 percent with many all stars and a championship under his belt. To say Lee is better is ridiculous.

Yes Ray can hardly guard anyone at this point in his career but Lee isnt exactly an all nba defensive player. he is athletic which makes him better at guarding. Like I said, however, I like the idea of having Lee on our team at this point in their careers more than Ray and he will be more than a serviceable replacement.
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Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2012, 12:52:59 AM »

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There is absolutely no way that the answer isn't ray and its just ludacris to think otherwise.... With that being said, lee is a great and serviceable replacement for Ray.
What?! Either you guys are suffering from homerism or you don't know basketball. What can ray do RIGHT NOW better than LEE? Hit 3's THAT'S IT! Lee does everything else better!

Even at 36 years old and hobbling, barley able to walk... Ray beat Lee in all the major statistical categories last year. He shot 46% from the field and 35% from beyond three. He averaged more boards and assists. Steals, blocks, and turnovers were virtually the same. And this is just last year. Ray has a career average of 20 ppg shooting 40 percent with many all stars and a championship under his belt. To say Lee is better is ridiculous.

Yes Ray can hardly guard anyone at this point in his career but Lee isnt exactly an all nba defensive player. he is athletic which makes him better at guarding. Like I said, however, I like the idea of having Lee on our team at this point in their careers more than Ray and he will be more than a serviceable replacement.
Tp.  You'd think we were getting a perennial all star.  While lee isn't a bad player, he isn't as good as people think.  Like I said earlier, even at this advanced age, ray is the better players.  He isn't just a shooter, he is still a potent scorer.  Much bigger threat than lee.

Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2012, 12:56:15 AM »

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There is absolutely no way that the answer isn't ray and its just ludacris to think otherwise.... With that being said, lee is a great and serviceable replacement for Ray.
What?! Either you guys are suffering from homerism or you don't know basketball. What can ray do RIGHT NOW better than LEE? Hit 3's THAT'S IT! Lee does everything else better!

Even at 36 years old and hobbling, barley able to walk... Ray beat Lee in all the major statistical categories last year. He shot 46% from the field and 35% from beyond three. He averaged more boards and assists. Steals, blocks, and turnovers were virtually the same. And this is just last year. Ray has a career average of 20 ppg shooting 40 percent with many all stars and a championship under his belt. To say Lee is better is ridiculous.

Yes Ray can hardly guard anyone at this point in his career but Lee isnt exactly an all nba defensive player. he is athletic which makes him better at guarding. Like I said, however, I like the idea of having Lee on our team at this point in their careers more than Ray and he will be more than a serviceable replacement.
Tp.  You'd think we were getting a perennial all star.  While lee isn't a bad player, he isn't as good as people think.  Like I said earlier, even at this advanced age, ray is the better players.  He isn't just a shooter, he is still a potent scorer.  Much bigger threat than lee.

Exactly and when i typed 35% I meant 45% from three. Ray could still get to the basket and finish very well without any ankles. Lee is a great spot up shooter but cant get to the basket on his own like Ray can.

Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2012, 12:58:23 AM »

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Think the rebs numbers are misleading, lot easier to get rebs on the c's than the rockets, haven't looked numbers(reb% of each team), also ray is likely to get hurt again, and certain to decline. Also Lee has the physical tool to play a part on d, whilst allen has declining tools at best

Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2012, 12:58:46 AM »

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I voted Ray.

But Lee (if this signing is true), is a very nice addition.

Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2012, 01:25:55 AM »

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Ray was better period but I really think Lee has more success ahead of him but I doubt his career surpasses Ray's.  Lee has more upside presently.

Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2012, 01:27:51 AM »

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... Lee has more success ahead of him but I doubt his career surpasses Ray's

That's probably a fair assumption. ;)


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Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2012, 01:29:10 AM »

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Ray can't be that good he only makes 3 million!  :o
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Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2012, 01:34:17 AM »

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Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2012, 01:52:13 AM »

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... Lee has more success ahead of him but I doubt his career surpasses Ray's

That's probably a fair assumption. ;)

It's the first part of the above sentence that really matters, though. 
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Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2012, 01:54:29 AM »

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... Lee has more success ahead of him but I doubt his career surpasses Ray's

That's probably a fair assumption. ;)

It's the first part of the above sentence that really matters, though. 
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Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2012, 02:00:46 AM »

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Re: Who's better : Ray or Lee?
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2012, 03:51:45 AM »

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There is absolutely no way that the answer isn't ray and its just ludacris to think otherwise.... With that being said, lee is a great and serviceable replacement for Ray.
What?! Either you guys are suffering from homerism or you don't know basketball. What can ray do RIGHT NOW better than LEE? Hit 3's THAT'S IT! Lee does everything else better!

Even at 36 years old and hobbling, barley able to walk... Ray beat Lee in all the major statistical categories last year. He shot 46% from the field and 35% from beyond three. He averaged more boards and assists. Steals, blocks, and turnovers were virtually the same. And this is just last year. Ray has a career average of 20 ppg shooting 40 percent with many all stars and a championship under his belt. To say Lee is better is ridiculous.

Yes Ray can hardly guard anyone at this point in his career but Lee isnt exactly an all nba defensive player. he is athletic which makes him better at guarding. Like I said, however, I like the idea of having Lee on our team at this point in their careers more than Ray and he will be more than a serviceable replacement.
Tp.  You'd think we were getting a perennial all star.  While lee isn't a bad player, he isn't as good as people think.  Like I said earlier, even at this advanced age, ray is the better players.  He isn't just a shooter, he is still a potent scorer.  Much bigger threat than lee.

Exactly and when i typed 35% I meant 45% from three. Ray could still get to the basket and finish very well without any ankles. Lee is a great spot up shooter but cant get to the basket on his own like Ray can.

numbers are skewed by his hot start. but even before he was injured his play was deteriorating.