Celtics One of the Leaders for Darko

[bfrombleacher]

id rather have a bag of popcorn than darko!  guy is a waste of space.  id rather keep steimsma than get darko

For the vet min is there anyone better than him? (Not a rhetorical question trying to prove a point; honestly looking for an answer)

i wouldnt spend the $ for the sake of spending the $.  id rather roll the dice with kg, steimsma, wilcox, and the melo.  i really think darko is pathetic.  im shocked i actually see people advocating for players like he and kwame.  

I agree, darko and "stone hands" kwame brown are very meh

Would you rather save it for Dools then?

[clover]

id rather have a bag of popcorn than darko!  guy is a waste of space.  id rather keep steimsma than get darko

For the vet min is there anyone better than him? (Not a rhetorical question trying to prove a point; honestly looking for an answer)

i wouldnt spend the $ for the sake of spending the $.  id rather roll the dice with kg, steimsma, wilcox, and the melo.  i really think darko is pathetic.  im shocked i actually see people advocating for players like he and kwame.  

I agree, darko and "stone hands" kwame brown are very meh

Would you rather save it for Dools then?

I'm really hoping Danny immediately offers the BAE to Stiemer--and Stiemer immediately accepts.

[flyofchange]

id rather have a bag of popcorn than darko!  guy is a waste of space.  id rather keep steimsma than get darko

For the vet min is there anyone better than him? (Not a rhetorical question trying to prove a point; honestly looking for an answer)

i wouldnt spend the $ for the sake of spending the $.  id rather roll the dice with kg, steimsma, wilcox, and the melo.  i really think darko is pathetic.  im shocked i actually see people advocating for players like he and kwame.  

I agree, darko and "stone hands" kwame brown are very meh

Would you rather save it for Dools then?

I'm really hoping Danny immediately offers the BAE to Stiemer--and Stiemer immediately accepts.

Agree.

I think he will if danny does 

[clover]

Beats Stiemsma 

I'm not so sure on clubhouse reasons alone.  Minny apparently doesn't think so.

Wolves are looking at Stiemsma and Darko as starting center options. Personality comes into play if he's a starter on a team with no real veterans... on a team with KG, Paul, Terry, and Doc? I think he'll fit in fine.

Plus, if he's boys with Sheed he's boys with me.

Doesn't Minny have Pecovic as their starting center?  I believe their slot in question is for first backup to Pecovic.

[Professor of Rondology]

No, Darko isn't very good.  Actually, he's very sub-par.  Good thing all we need is a decent depth option.  He'll give us a few minutes per game at C during the regular season just to keep KG et al as fresh as possible for the playoffs.  With the cast of character's the Celts have tried to trot out at C over the past decade, you have to admit that Darko is at least worth looking over.  I'm not saying that I want us to rush out and sign him, but it certainly deserves to be given some thought.

Using the BAE on Steimsma is actually a major risk. I will give three good reasons why I wouldn't do this:
1) Health- was last year a streak of bad luck or an indication that he is going to be dealing with nagging injuries for his whole career?
2) Defense- people love to call Steamer a "great" defender but the fact of the matter is that his pick-and-roll defense was not just sub-par but god awful.  Until he significantly improves that aspect of his defense he will get attacked by any opposing head coach worth his salt.
3) Value- why use the BAE on a 3rd string center who might not pan out when you can get another 3rd string center for the vet min (assuming, of course, that we can find a C for the vet min)? Why use the BAE on a 3rd string-er when we still don't have a starting SG to start the season? (assuming we don't work out a sign/trade)

Maybe Steamer just needed some time to figure out how to defend the pick-and-roll in the NBA. Maybe he will be 100% healthy all year next year. I just don't know.  I don't think it's worth the BAE to find out.

I think this team could use another big body but right now I think out priority should be shoring up our guard rotation.  We already have big bodies- they are just young and inexperienced bodies.  Sometimes you just have to roll the dice with what you've got- we might be stuck with the frontcourt we have currently with Bass-KG-Wilcox-Sully as the main contributors.  It doesn't leave any wiggle room in case of injuries but really we don't have many options here.

[Celtics18]

No, Darko isn't very good.  Actually, he's very sub-par.  Good thing all we need is a decent depth option.  He'll give us a few minutes per game at C during the regular season just to keep KG et al as fresh as possible for the playoffs.  With the cast of character's the Celts have tried to trot out at C over the past decade, you have to admit that Darko is at least worth looking over.  I'm not saying that I want us to rush out and sign him, but it certainly deserves to be given some thought.

Using the BAE on Steimsma is actually a major risk. I will give three good reasons why I wouldn't do this:
1) Health- was last year a streak of bad luck or an indication that he is going to be dealing with nagging injuries for his whole career?
2) Defense- people love to call Steamer a "great" defender but the fact of the matter is that his pick-and-roll defense was not just sub-par but god awful.  Until he significantly improves that aspect of his defense he will get attacked by any opposing head coach worth his salt.
3) Value- why use the BAE on a 3rd string center who might not pan out when you can get another 3rd string center for the vet min (assuming, of course, that we can find a C for the vet min)? Why use the BAE on a 3rd string-er when we still don't have a starting SG to start the season? (assuming we don't work out a sign/trade)

Maybe Steamer just needed some time to figure out how to defend the pick-and-roll in the NBA. Maybe he will be 100% healthy all year next year. I just don't know.  I don't think it's worth the BAE to find out.

I think this team could use another big body but right now I think out priority should be shoring up our guard rotation.  We already have big bodies- they are just young and inexperienced bodies.  Sometimes you just have to roll the dice with what you've got- we might be stuck with the frontcourt we have currently with Bass-KG-Wilcox-Sully as the main contributors.  It doesn't leave any wiggle room in case of injuries but really we don't have many options here.

1.  Plantar fasciitis is very common among basketball players and tends to heal completely with proper rest and treatment.

2.  Every single young NBA big has his pick and roll defense questioned.  Greg moves his feet well and has the instincts and desire to play defense.  He will be a very solid NBA defender.

3. He's good value for the BAE.   We can sign Pietrus and Dooling for vet. minimum contracts or bring back Moore in lieu of Dooling and have a very solid back court rotation.

[Fafnir]

We have early bird rights to Dooling, Pietrus is likely not available for the minimum.

Greg doesn't move his feet that well, he's pretty slow footed he needs to figure out how to compensate for that. I'd love to have him back but unless Minnesota's cap is truly borked beyond believe they're going to outbid us.

[Celtics18]

We have early bird rights to Dooling, Pietrus is likely not available for the minimum.

Greg doesn't move his feet that well, he's pretty slow footed he needs to figure out how to compensate for that. I'd love to have him back but unless Minnesota's cap is truly borked beyond believe they're going to outbid us.

Can someone provide a link that claims that anyone has offered Peaches more than the vet. minimum this off-season?  I keep reading that he likely isn't available for the minimum, but I don't understand this, at all.  He signed for the minimum last year.  It doesn't seem that his 2011-2012 campaign put him in a position where teams are knocking down the door to offer him a big contract. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the reason Peaches is still a free agent is not because he's weighing who will pay him the most, but more that he's waiting for an offer . . .  preferably from the Celtics. 

[CelticG1]

We have early bird rights to Dooling, Pietrus is likely not available for the minimum.

Greg doesn't move his feet that well, he's pretty slow footed he needs to figure out how to compensate for that. I'd love to have him back but unless Minnesota's cap is truly borked beyond believe they're going to outbid us.

I'd be shocked if Pietrus wasn't available for the minimum.

He had an ok year last year and was abysmal when he got back from injury all the way through the playoffs.

[coco]

I don't think Darko likes basketball .  For that reason alone I wouldn't go after him. 

As insurance?  I guess....😒

[TheBig5]

Pietrus came for the minimum because the Suns bought him out for 4.2 million of his 5.3 million dollar salary.

[Celtics18]

Pietrus came for the minimum because the Suns bought him out for 4.2 million of his 5.3 million dollar salary.

Fair enough, but I still don't see him getting much bigger than minimum offers.

[ummidkme]

This is not a question of Steamer or Darko, its insurance in case the Wolves outbid for Steamer. In that case Darko would be our best option. If the wolves don't sign Steamers than the Cs are good and could still offer the vet minimum or god forbid the BAE to Darko. You can never have enough bigs.

[jsingh1699]

would darko really be worse than hollins and/or williams???

i find that hard to believe. granted hollins hustled but he could not guard any real big guys. a guy like darko is good for guarding true centers and protecting the rim (even if its with fouls rather than blocks)

[Yoki_IsTheName]

This is not a question of Steamer or Darko, its insurance in case the Wolves outbid for Steamer. In that case Darko would be our best option. If the wolves don't sign Steamers than the Cs are good and could still offer the vet minimum or god forbid the BAE to Darko. You can never have enough bigs.

Example would be what happened last season when Wilcox went down. We could use Darko.