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Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #105 on: July 10, 2012, 12:41:38 PM »

Offline KCattheStripe

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I'm not saying the sky is falling. I freely admit it was one game. But I saw him play a bunch at Syracuse too. Here's what Fab Melo is:

A big man that can move his feet that has above average athleticism for a man his size.

A person with awful hands for catching a ball.

A player with no down low offensive skills whatsoever, but then again, thats not why he was drafted.

A player that thrives on blocking shots to the point of playing poor defense at times. He will be so in tune to block a shot he will rotate poorly, leave his man wide open and give down low position away.

The above reason is just one of the reasons he is such a horrid defensive rebounder. The other is that he has no ball instincts. He never has his hands up, he has trouble judging where the ball will richochet to and this causes him to be easily outpositioned and late on rebounds as he is watching the ball. This is the stuff you can't teach.

He appears to have a very seldom used 15 foot jumper but I have seen it so infrequently that I almost discount it.

His free throw shooting is terrible.

Now if he can be coached up to be as good as Stiemsma by the end of this coming season, then the coaching staff will have really, really, really earned their money. As a Celtic fan I sure hope they do. I'm not holding out hope. I didn't like the pick but will be more than happy to admit being 1000% wrong.


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For real though, the only thing that worried me yesterday was his hands, but even then he was getting terrible passes from terrible point guards so I don't know what to make of it.

I saw athleticism both laterally and north/south which will make Rondo's life on the break easier and will probably turn him into a good pnr player with Rondo. I saw tremendous hustle. I saw below average rebounding, but I saw him fight for position with no idea what to do when he gets there. I saw desire on defense and a semi-decent awareness on when to help and show. What I saw yesterday was a solid foundation, what I have no clue is what kind of house is going to be built on top and how quickly.

Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #106 on: July 10, 2012, 12:42:20 PM »

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I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two) is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.

Sure, CB has a history of hyping up and overrating bench players (holy cow, how did you guys actually think Glen Davis was good???) but Stiemsma was the one time where it was actually justified.

Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #107 on: July 10, 2012, 12:49:40 PM »

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I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two) is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.

Sure, CB has a history of hyping up and overrating bench players (holy cow, how did you guys actually think Glen Davis was good???) but Stiemsma was the one time where it was actually justified.

I find it hilarious that you know Melo's ceiling already, 1 summer league game in.

Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #108 on: July 10, 2012, 12:57:10 PM »

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''I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win
now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab
Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two)
is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.''

melo is as good as steamer right now, and much more athletic for future development.

Melo already has steamers jumpshot too.

Remember your words and your description of melo's ceiling for future reference.

Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #109 on: July 10, 2012, 12:58:38 PM »

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''I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win
now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab
Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two)
is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.''

melo is as good as steamer right now, and much more athletic for future development.

Melo already has steamers jumpshot too.

Remember your words and your description of melo's ceiling for future reference.

Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #110 on: July 10, 2012, 01:05:32 PM »

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I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two) is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.

Sure, CB has a history of hyping up and overrating bench players (holy cow, how did you guys actually think Glen Davis was good???) but Stiemsma was the one time where it was actually justified.

And you saw this after one summer league game?

Actually, forget the summer league game. Melo was a DOMINANT defensive force in the Big East, arguably the best college basketball conference. For a guy who's only playing 6 years of high level basketball, he's already shown that he's at Steamers level.

Im not knocking Goldiblocks, but let's look at the stuff Melo has. In his 6 years of experience, his footwork is better. His defensive instincts is on par if not better than Greg. He also has good form in his jump shot, meaning it can be better. He's naturally stronger, meaning he can get more stronger.

He has a higher ceiling than Greg, and I like Greg. But to say Melo's ceiling is only a prime Greg Steimsma selling it REALLY low.
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Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #111 on: July 10, 2012, 01:26:09 PM »

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On the bright side, if we are certain Melo is going to be a bust, we are also certain Sullinger is going to be an all-star.

Look at steven i smith's analysis of both players and with dead-on accuracy.....Assume the opposite.

Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #112 on: July 10, 2012, 01:30:04 PM »

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''I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win
now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab
Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two)
is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.''

melo is as good as steamer right now, and much more athletic for future development.

Melo already has steamers jumpshot too.

Remember your words and your description of melo's ceiling for future reference.
uhm.....to be honest...Big baby AVG about 20 ppg and  9.2 boards in the playoffs for the magic lol. Although, we pick on him...He apparently is pretty good lol

Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #113 on: July 10, 2012, 02:09:16 PM »

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''I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win
now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab
Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two)
is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.''

melo is as good as steamer right now, and much more athletic for future development.

Melo already has steamers jumpshot too.

Remember your words and your description of melo's ceiling for future reference.

Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #114 on: July 10, 2012, 02:14:18 PM »

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I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two) is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.
We did not "let Steamer go". As a matter of fact, we've done everything possible under the CBA to keep him with us so far.

Sure, CB has a history of hyping up and overrating bench players (holy cow, how did you guys actually think Glen Davis was good???) but Stiemsma was the one time where it was actually justified.
Because he _was_ actually good before he started playing outside of his role.
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Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #115 on: July 10, 2012, 02:16:29 PM »

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Glen Davis was a pretty good 3rd big, a very good 4th big man in your rotation.

The issue with him is when he plays outside the paint too much offensively and when he's playing starter minutes.

I liked Glen Davis's role in 09-10, great use of his skill set and versatility to be a PF/C.

Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #116 on: July 10, 2012, 05:29:52 PM »

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I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two) is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.

Sure, CB has a history of hyping up and overrating bench players (holy cow, how did you guys actually think Glen Davis was good???) but Stiemsma was the one time where it was actually justified.

As Koz mentioned, we didn't let Steamer go.  Minnesota offered him three million dollars.  They took him away.  I'll miss him, but, you know what, I'm happy for him.

He earned it. 
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Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #117 on: July 10, 2012, 08:16:10 PM »

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I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two) is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.

Sure, CB has a history of hyping up and overrating bench players (holy cow, how did you guys actually think Glen Davis was good???) but Stiemsma was the one time where it was actually justified.

As Koz mentioned, we didn't let Steamer go.  Minnesota offered him three million dollars.  They took him away.  I'll miss him, but, you know what, I'm happy for him.

He earned it. 
I don't think he officially has an offer, Minnesota is trying to get Batum which mucks up their cap for a bit.

Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #118 on: July 10, 2012, 08:31:51 PM »

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I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two) is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.

Sure, CB has a history of hyping up and overrating bench players (holy cow, how did you guys actually think Glen Davis was good???) but Stiemsma was the one time where it was actually justified.

As Koz mentioned, we didn't let Steamer go.  Minnesota offered him three million dollars.  They took him away.  I'll miss him, but, you know what, I'm happy for him.

He earned it. 
I thought that was just a rumor and we still got him?  :-\
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Re: Not so Fab Melo
« Reply #119 on: July 10, 2012, 08:47:15 PM »

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I find it hilarious that we're supposedly still in "win now" mode, and we let Steamer go and draft Fab Melo, whose ceiling (for at least the next year or two) is basically Stiemsma but with worse offense.

Sure, CB has a history of hyping up and overrating bench players (holy cow, how did you guys actually think Glen Davis was good???) but Stiemsma was the one time where it was actually justified.

As Koz mentioned, we didn't let Steamer go.  Minnesota offered him three million dollars.  They took him away.  I'll miss him, but, you know what, I'm happy for him.

He earned it.  
I thought that was just a rumor and we still got him?  :-\

As of two days ago, Stiemsma didn't have other offers than the Celtics QO. The T'Wolves have bids out on Batum, Roy and Russian sg Alexey Shved, which means they need to clear that up and probably amnesty Darko Milicic before they could offer Stiemsma more than we could.
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