woj article: ray chose miami to stick it to the celtics

[greenpride32]

We got 5 great years from Ray.  He was the hardest worker, sacrificed the most, and was a consummate professional.  I think when he was almost traded twice (don't forget the Sacramento Kings trade discussed a couple of years ago), he filed it under "it's just business", and kept that mental note handy when making the rounds, and finally choosing Miami.  In this case, the "business" of Ray is not more $$ but more rings.  I feel sad, but can't begrudge him.  

apparantly hes not the consumate professional that we thought.

he was

1.upset Rondo, pierce,kg made more $$ than him.
2. Upset that someone younger than him told him what to do.
3. upset that Doc had him come off the bench for bradley(for the better of the team I might add)

and then to top it off demanding that rediculous 3year/27million contract from the C's and then accepting 3/9milion

comes accross as petty and jealous

This is all some guys opinion; you can take it for what it's worth.  Unless you have any comments from Ray that suggest any of those points, his opinion is just nothing more than that.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Way to keep it classy once again Boston fans. Way to rip the guy who got the Celtics a ring, class all the way in Boston! If everyone on this blog was a 1/10th of the person Jesus Shuttlesworth is this world may not be filled with all this hate. Booo to you all, booo I say!

When you get stabbed in the back, being classy goes out the window. Screw Ray.

[cman88]

We got 5 great years from Ray.  He was the hardest worker, sacrificed the most, and was a consummate professional.  I think when he was almost traded twice (don't forget the Sacramento Kings trade discussed a couple of years ago), he filed it under "it's just business", and kept that mental note handy when making the rounds, and finally choosing Miami.  In this case, the "business" of Ray is not more $$ but more rings.  I feel sad, but can't begrudge him.  

apparantly hes not the consumate professional that we thought.

he was

1.upset Rondo, pierce,kg made more $$ than him.
2. Upset that someone younger than him told him what to do.
3. upset that Doc had him come off the bench for bradley(for the better of the team I might add)

and then to top it off demanding that rediculous 3year/27million contract from the C's and then accepting 3/9milion

comes accross as petty and jealous

This is all some guys opinion; you can take it for what it's worth.  Unless you have any comments from Ray that suggest any of those points, his opinion is just nothing more than that.

WOJ doesnt post opinion pieces...the guy is probably one of the best/most knowledgable reporters on the NBA

how come its so easy for you to beleive that Rondo is a problem when theres no public comments asserting as much?

[CelticHooligan3]

Way to keep it classy once again Boston fans. Way to rip the guy who got the Celtics a ring, class all the way in Boston! If everyone on this blog was a 1/10th of the person Jesus Shuttlesworth is this world may not be filled with all this hate. Booo to you all, booo I say!

And in other news.. Jesus Shuttlesworth is not a real person.

[ChainSmokingLikeDino]

Well said Roy.

Woj is the best guy to follow to find out what is happening as it is happening. You can be as up on NBA ongoings by seeing what he tweets as is possible. That said, his columns have always been a playground for his sanctimonious, moralizing, self-aggrandizing, armchair psychoanalysis.

I know LeBron doesn't get any love around here but some of the articles Woj has written over the years have been spiteful, petty and full of first-year psych student conjecture. Still love reading him for the info he provides (and there is good stuff in that article on that front) but I find his constant attempts to be the moral authority to be tiresome to say the least. 

[Finkelskyhook]

The reality is that Allen would have had pretty much the same role here that he'll have in Miami.  He's going to play about as much as Mike Miller, when healthy, did....Except he won't give them as much.  Miller defended and rebounded better than Ray can at this point.  His minutes, at most would have been in the 20s.  At this point, Bradley, Terry, and Rondo are much better players and would have commanded more minutes.

I thought Ray was gone as soon as Terry was signed.

That he would sign for less money to join the two biggest narcissists in the sport.....Allen will get what he deserves..Ala los Nash.  

The heat caught the perfect storm of having 2 game 2s given to them by the officials and having their role players play out of their minds for a few games.  It won't happen again.  

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

It's easy for a team to love Ray Allen at $3m per season. A gimpy Ray Allen, on an expiring $10m contract, with festering personal issues between him and the team's QB, is an obvious choice to be trade bait. 

Danny Ainge should have shipped Allen's ungrateful ass out of town when he had the chance.  Remember,t his is a guy who played for only two plus-42 win teams in his 11 years before Ainge rescued him from Seattle to be a third fiddle in Boston.

Ray Allen should be comfortable with his role as 4th banana in Miami, since that's what he's been here in Boston.  On the court, he's sub-par in all facets of  the game besides shooting threes, and he was unable to cope with his declining abilities. 

He took the easy way and signed with Miami.  Instead of having his number retired with the most storied franchise in basketball, he chose to  become a bit player in Miami.  Don't let the door hit you on the way out of town, you petty ingrate.     

TP ..!!!

Ray got his revenge on the Celtics...but at the cost of his personal legacy with MILLIONS of fans world wide.... very immature act for someone winding down a carreer and fooish.... he couldn't leave in a nice way could he? Like JET ? No he set the Celtics up by dragging them though the mud and trying to put the Celtics in a BAD Situation on purpose to help the HEAT and thus leave the Celtics is bad way.

BENEDICT RAY ARNOLD ALLEN...FOREVER

now, can you imagine if DA was really counting on him and had no back-up plan like acquiring JET? we would really be in a bind then. And Ray would have laughed at us. Thank you DA. always be pro-active and go with your gut. DA was right. I just wish we would have shipped him off for at least a few basketball holders or something.

[bfrombleacher]

Way to keep it classy once again Boston fans. Way to rip the guy who got the Celtics a ring, class all the way in Boston! If everyone on this blog was a 1/10th of the person Jesus Shuttlesworth is this world may not be filled with all this hate. Booo to you all, booo I say!

And in other news.. Jesus Shuttlesworth is not a real person.

Jesus Shuttlesworth died when Ray decided to sign with evil. D:

[boscel33]

bye bye ray.  I know why he chose miami, because he can't guard any of them any longer, so now he doesn't have to.  can't wait to see ab play lockdown d on ray next year!

[Snakehead]

Well said Roy.

Woj is the best guy to follow to find out what is happening as it is happening. You can be as up on NBA ongoings by seeing what he tweets as is possible. That said, his columns have always been a playground for his sanctimonious, moralizing, self-aggrandizing, armchair psychoanalysis.

I know LeBron doesn't get any love around here but some of the articles Woj has written over the years have been spiteful, petty and full of first-year psych student conjecture. Still love reading him for the info he provides (and there is good stuff in that article on that front) but I find his constant attempts to be the moral authority to be tiresome to say the least. 

Very agreed there on Woj columns.

However I don't find this engaging in that as much.  There's no moral high ground being taken as much as laying out information from sources and drawing conclusions.

Was funny to see him gush about LeBron after this title after tearing him down for the last two years.

[Lord of Mikawa]

Way to keep it classy once again Boston fans. Way to rip the guy who got the Celtics a ring, class all the way in Boston! If everyone on this blog was a 1/10th of the person Jesus Shuttlesworth is this world may not be filled with all this hate. Booo to you all, booo I say!

If Ray wouldnt have no showed in Game 7, he would have had another ring.

[Brendan]

Ray was great with Celtics. I have serious concerns about the guard rotation of RR, AB, and JT - a little bit undersized. And if Jeff Green cannot drain corner threes, the offense may really miss him.

All that being said:

1. He took 3/9 over 2/12 - that's kind of funny for a guide mad about RR taking a home town discount.

2. He's not gonna have all the same issues in MIA? Lebron and Wade seem at least as irritating as Rondo. Wait till the first losing streak in MIA when Wade goes on sabbatical trying to get the coach fired LOL.

3. If BOS and MIA meet in playoffs - we probably see AB on Wade and Rondo on Allen (although they might cross match) that will be fun.


This fixes the minutes for Celtics at guard/wing:

Rondo / Terry
AB / Terry / Pierce
Pierce / Green
Bass / Green / Sullinger
KG / Steis

Hopefully the Celtics can figure out a way to bring in a FA center on BAE... I'd really like to see a Camby type as 2nd string and Steis as third string.

[BballTim]

We got 5 great years from Ray.  He was the hardest worker, sacrificed the most, and was a consummate professional.  I think when he was almost traded twice (don't forget the Sacramento Kings trade discussed a couple of years ago), he filed it under "it's just business", and kept that mental note handy when making the rounds, and finally choosing Miami.  In this case, the "business" of Ray is not more $$ but more rings.  I feel sad, but can't begrudge him.  

apparantly hes not the consumate professional that we thought.

he was

1.upset Rondo, pierce,kg made more $$ than him.
2. Upset that someone younger than him told him what to do.
3. upset that Doc had him come off the bench for bradley(for the better of the team I might add)

and then to top it off demanding that rediculous 3year/27million contract from the C's and then accepting 3/9milion

comes accross as petty and jealous

This is all some guys opinion; you can take it for what it's worth.  Unless you have any comments from Ray that suggest any of those points, his opinion is just nothing more than that.

  I don't think there was much if anything at all in that article that we hadn't heard before.

[TripleOT]

If the Heat can get a real big for the minimum, like Camby, and he stays healthy, they're repeating, or at least getting to the Finals against the Lakers.

Battier and Ray Allen for $6m total is a ridiculous bargain.  No team can beat Miami's small line up, with Bosh, LBJ, Battier, RA and Wade, unless they have bigs who can make them pay at the other end.  

The 2011 Heat were vulnerable against the zone.  With Allen and Battier, they are not any more.  Get used to these Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.nozzles like LeBron and Wade getting rings the next three or four years, unless one of them gets a devastating knee injury.  

[wahz]

Pathetic.

Can we no longer say a guy is the "consummate professional" because he goes and shoots early and says everything when interviewed in a very thoughtful way?

KG is that. KG is so loyal he will stay on your team until it sinks around him, stay until he's wasted his prime there. He will take all his teammates to war, take knuckleheads like Patrick O'Bryant seriously if he has to.  Ray never was apparently.



Reading this just shows it all.  He thought he was disrespected because he wasn't paid like Pierce, KG, Rondo... then he takes a huge paycut? to be a spot up shooter??

And being unable to take criticism or instruction from the younger Rondo... sounds like a bitter old man.

If this is the dude then good riddance.  Not who I thought he was AT ALL.




Rondo in trade rumors every [dang] day and shows up to play and is the best on the floor.

Rondo in trade rumors before the season, during the season, at the deadline and on and on. And not only that, they did trade Perk, taking the risk of affecting Rajon. It did, but by the end of the year he is playing his heart out with one arm.

Rondo has about the most friendly contract in the league. Ray has become a one dimensional shooter, who is a long defender and makes a great effort.

I truly believe Ray knew he was going to do this, and it was the reason, more than his ankles, that he shot so poorly from the line during the playoffs. It was weighing on him. I know 90% of you won't agree. But we saw him shoot poorly when he was worried about his son in the LA series, and around the all star breaks when he was worried about getting traded. He is an ocd guy who needs the world to be a certain way for him to function well. Im not suggesting he was missing on purpose but unfortunately since he couldn't get his mind right its best for us that he has left.

If he didn't like hanging around KG, PP and Rajon, just wait until he is surrounded by the full of class guys, LeBron and D Wade. I honestly think he loved the idea of switching to the team that injured Rajon's elbow.