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Re: woj article: ray chose miami to stick it to the celtics
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2012, 09:55:56 AM »

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Re: woj article: ray chose miami to stick it to the celtics
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2012, 09:57:58 AM »

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I think the "stick it to the Celtics" part is Woj's conjecture. 

The article does a good job showing why Ray felt slighted, whether those reasons were real or exaggerated.  Woj points out why Ray wasn't comfortable in Boston.  I think he takes a logical leap, though, and assumes that he signed in Miami as a middle finger to Boston.  I don't buy that.  I think he chose Miami because they're going to be winning titles and he likes the city.  Where else was he going to sign?  Memphis (i.e., the violent crime capital of the country)?  Minnesota (crappy organization, colder than heck)?  Or Phoenix (would you want to play for Richard Sarver)?

He chose Miami because it was his best option besides Boston, and he didn't want to play for the Celtics any more.

  Asking Boston for much more money than he could get from Miami and *then* signing for that relative pittance is Ray sticking it to the Celts.

Re: woj article: ray chose miami to stick it to the celtics
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2012, 09:58:15 AM »

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If this is true then the morbid strictly about his ego. I hate even more.

Oh BTW Sir Roy, before they signed Jamal Crawford, the Clippers wanted him.

More money...check
Starting job...check
Championship Contender...with him, check
Great place to live...check

This is what it is, this is a stick it to Boston because he did not like the fact that he was being shopped and the PG is trying to tell him what to do. Ego driven. What happened to "the consummate professional"?


If that is what you need as a fan to feel comfortable disliking him fine.  I personally think the Clips had the best shot before they chose Jamal Crawford (dumb move) over Ray

Re: woj article: ray chose miami to stick it to the celtics
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2012, 10:04:35 AM »

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Pathetic.

Can we no longer say a guy is the "consummate professional" because he goes and shoots early and says everything when interviewed in a very thoughtful way?

KG is that. KG is so loyal he will stay on your team until it sinks around him, stay until he's wasted his prime there. He will take all his teammates to war, take knuckleheads like Patrick O'Bryant seriously if he has to.  Ray never was apparently.



Reading this just shows it all.  He thought he was disrespected because he wasn't paid like Pierce, KG, Rondo... then he takes a huge paycut? to be a spot up shooter??

And being unable to take criticism or instruction from the younger Rondo... sounds like a bitter old man.

If this is the dude then good riddance.  Not who I thought he was AT ALL.




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Re: woj article: ray chose miami to stick it to the celtics
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2012, 10:07:52 AM »

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even if Woj's "sticking it to the celtics" is conjecture.

1. Ray couldnt stand being told what to do by a player younger than him

2. Ray couldnt stand that Rondo was making more than him.

3. Ray couldnt stand doc starting a 21year old over him.

3. Ray demanded the celtics give him 3/27million and then went ahead and signed for 3/9million with Miami where he will backup dwayne wade


he comes off looking petty and jealous here, and has totally changed my opinion of him.

Re: woj article: ray chose miami to stick it to the celtics
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2012, 10:08:21 AM »

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I think the "stick it to the Celtics" part is Woj's conjecture. 

The article does a good job showing why Ray felt slighted, whether those reasons were real or exaggerated.  Woj points out why Ray wasn't comfortable in Boston.  I think he takes a logical leap, though, and assumes that he signed in Miami as a middle finger to Boston.  I don't buy that.  I think he chose Miami because they're going to be winning titles and he likes the city.  Where else was he going to sign?  Memphis (i.e., the violent crime capital of the country)?  Minnesota (crappy organization, colder than heck)?  Or Phoenix (would you want to play for Richard Sarver)?

He chose Miami because it was his best option besides Boston, and he didn't want to play for the Celtics any more.

That all amounts to "sticking it to the Celtics" as far as I'm concerned.  If he wants to win a title with Miami, he has to know that right now the biggest contender to knock them off in the East is the Celtics.  

To do his job down in South Beach well, he will be required to look at the Boston Celtics as the enemy.  I have a hard time respecting that as a Celtics fan.  

Let's be blunt here:  Ray is a traitor to Celtic Nation. There's simply no way around that.  You can say it's well within his rights, and there's no denying the truth of that.  He didn't break any rules, signing with the team of his choice as a free agent.

He just chose the wrong team.  I'm no longer a fan of Ray Allen's.  I'm a fan of the Celtics, the team he left-- my team-- to go join the enemy.  

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Re: woj article: ray chose miami to stick it to the celtics
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2012, 10:14:05 AM »

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I figured Ray was gone and I was right. It must suck playing with a point guard that runs the offense THROUGH you and wastes 18 seconds on the clock just to get you open. All the while you still missing and we waste a possession.
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2012, 10:23:16 AM »

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I figured Ray was gone and I was right. It must suck playing with a point guard that runs the offense THROUGH you and wastes 18 seconds on the clock just to get you open. All the while you still missing and we waste a possession.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2012, 10:24:08 AM »

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It's easy for a team to love Ray Allen at $3m per season. A gimpy Ray Allen, on an expiring $10m contract, with festering personal issues between him and the team's QB, is an obvious choice to be trade bait.  

Danny Ainge should have shipped Allen's ungrateful ass out of town when he had the chance.  Remember,t his is a guy who played for only two plus-42 win teams in his 11 years before Ainge rescued him from Seattle to be a third fiddle in Boston.

Ray Allen should be comfortable with his role as 4th banana in Miami, since that's what he's been here in Boston.  On the court, he's sub-par in all facets of  the game besides shooting threes, and he was unable to cope with his declining abilities.  

He took the easy way and signed with Miami.  Instead of having his number retired with the most storied franchise in basketball, he chose to  become a bit player in Miami.  Don't let the door hit you on the way out of town, you petty ingrate.      

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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2012, 10:30:06 AM »

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It's easy for a team to love Ray Allen at $3m per season. A gimpy Ray Allen, on an expiring $10m contract, with festering personal issues between him and the team's QB, is an obvious choice to be trade bait.  

Danny Ainge should have shipped Allen's ungrateful ass out of town when he had the chance.  Remember,t his is a guy who played for only two plus-42 win teams in his 11 years before Ainge rescued him from Seattle to be a third fiddle in Boston.

Ray Allen should be comfortable with his role as 4th banana in Miami, since that's what he's been here in Boston.  On the court, he's sub-par in all facets of  the game besides shooting threes, and he was unable to cope with his declining abilities.  

He took the easy way and signed with Miami.  Instead of having his number retired with the most storied franchise in basketball, he chose to  become a bit player in Miami.  Don't let the door hit you on the way out of town, you petty ingrate.      


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Ray got his revenge on the Celtics...but at the cost of his personal legacy with MILLIONS of fans world wide.... very immature act for someone winding down a carreer and fooish.... he couldn't leave in a nice way could he? Like JET ? No he set the Celtics up by dragging them though the mud and trying to put the Celtics in a BAD Situation on purpose to help the HEAT and thus leave the Celtics is bad way.

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Re: woj article: ray chose miami to stick it to the celtics
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2012, 10:31:19 AM »

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We got 5 great years from Ray.  He was the hardest worker, sacrificed the most, and was a consummate professional.  I think when he was almost traded twice (don't forget the Sacramento Kings trade discussed a couple of years ago), he filed it under "it's just business", and kept that mental note handy when making the rounds, and finally choosing Miami.  In this case, the "business" of Ray is not more $$ but more rings.  I feel sad, but can't begrudge him.  

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« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2012, 10:34:46 AM »

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Reading the article again, just couldn't realize how petty Ray is here.

This all about the trade talks, benching and Rondo telling him what to do, while still getting his shots might I add.

I thought he was a professional? Rondo was also in trade talks but was never bitter. Quid got traded and yet still signed te next. He's upset because Bradley replaced him in the starting lineup, during the time when his production was bad.

God I can't wait for the season to start. And I hope I'm right about this, but I hope Rajon is reading this and use this as motivation to destroy the Heat.

Rondo, if youre reading this, Ray thinks he's too good for you. What you gonna do about it???
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« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2012, 10:39:46 AM »

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We got 5 great years from Ray.  He was the hardest worker, sacrificed the most, and was a consummate professional.  I think when he was almost traded twice (don't forget the Sacramento Kings trade discussed a couple of years ago), he filed it under "it's just business", and kept that mental note handy when making the rounds, and finally choosing Miami.  In this case, the "business" of Ray is not more $$ but more rings.  I feel sad, but can't begrudge him.  

apparantly hes not the consumate professional that we thought.

he was

1.upset Rondo, pierce,kg made more $$ than him.
2. Upset that someone younger than him told him what to do.
3. upset that Doc had him come off the bench for bradley(for the better of the team I might add)

and then to top it off demanding that rediculous 3year/27million contract from the C's and then accepting 3/9milion

comes accross as petty and jealous

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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2012, 10:40:29 AM »

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even if Woj's "sticking it to the celtics" is conjecture.

1. Ray couldnt stand being told what to do by a player younger than him

2. Ray couldnt stand that Rondo was making more than him.

3. Ray couldnt stand doc starting a 21year old over him.

3. Ray demanded the celtics give him 3/27million and then went ahead and signed for 3/9million with Miami where he will backup dwayne wade


he comes off looking petty and jealous here, and has totally changed my opinion of him.

This.

All the Rondo stuff is petty. Rondo tends to get dealt a raw deal in terms of getting the benefit of the doubt from fans - but Ray seems more jealous than anything. And I can't help but think the straw that broke the camel's back was Rondo lobbying to keep Avery in the starting line-up. 

He felt he was getting paid differently? Oh gee, perhaps that's because you're a one dimensional player? And the trade stuff? How many times has Rondo been in trade talks? Even Paul was almost shipped to the Nets. To demand a contract from the C's then take a third of that to sign with our biggest conference rival - TO COME OFF THE BENCH - that's sticking iit to the Celtics.

Ray may have been trying to send management a message, but its the fans who hear him loud and clear now.
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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2012, 10:46:56 AM »

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Way to keep it classy once again Boston fans. Way to rip the guy who got the Celtics a ring, class all the way in Boston! If everyone on this blog was a 1/10th of the person Jesus Shuttlesworth is this world may not be filled with all this hate. Booo to you all, booo I say!