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Which free agent departure to a bitter rival is more egregious?

Ray Allen to Miami (if it happens)
25 (65.8%)
Johnny Damon to Yankees
13 (34.2%)

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Re: Who is worse, ray Allen or Johnny Damon?
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2012, 03:25:24 PM »

Offline Finkelskyhook

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damon took more $$ than the red sox offered...as disheartening as that was, you could sort of see his line of thinking there.

the thing with Ray that IMO is worse is that he took LESS money to go to Miami...the c's clearly had the best offer on the table and ray still said "see ya im going to miami"

I would've liked to see a 3 year offer from the Celtics. I haven't heard anything. All I've heard was Ray wanting a 27 million deal over 3 years, which we couldn't afford (though not blaming him for asking).

I'm of the opinion that a well deserved 3 year deal would be along the lines of 15-18 million, and I would have thought that Ray would have accepted it.

But all I've seen offered was a 2 year deal, and I think that more than anything was the deal breaker. Still no excuse to go with Miami from where I'm standing, but I think the Celtics could have done a better effort to keep him at a reasonable affordable price.

I'd love to be proven differently.

Why would you give a three year deal to an aging player in such a sharp decline?

Re: Who is worse, ray Allen or Johnny Damon?
« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2012, 03:27:09 PM »

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damon took more $$ than the red sox offered...as disheartening as that was, you could sort of see his line of thinking there.

the thing with Ray that IMO is worse is that he took LESS money to go to Miami...the c's clearly had the best offer on the table and ray still said "see ya im going to miami"

I would've liked to see a 3 year offer from the Celtics. I haven't heard anything. All I've heard was Ray wanting a 27 million deal over 3 years, which we couldn't afford (though not blaming him for asking).

I'm of the opinion that a well deserved 3 year deal would be along the lines of 15-18 million, and I would have thought that Ray would have accepted it.

But all I've seen offered was a 2 year deal, and I think that more than anything was the deal breaker. Still no excuse to go with Miami from where I'm standing, but I think the Celtics could have done a better effort to keep him at a reasonable affordable price.

I'd love to be proven differently.

Why would you give a three year deal to an aging player in such a sharp decline?

Because the sharp decline is pure exaggeration. He was having a great year until he got injured. He's diligent and gets himself in great shape. And lastly, we could afford it.

Re: Who is worse, ray Allen or Johnny Damon?
« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2012, 03:31:07 PM »

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I said Johnny Damon.  Damon was a character for the Sox, with the hair and the Moses beard.  He kind of personified that 2004 team that ended it all.

Damon also had no "reason" to leave the Sox.  He was never trade  bait. 

Also...the Yankees are the Sox all-time rivals.

Miami is just the flavor of the moment.  If Ray had gone to the LAKERS....well then...

Re: Who is worse, ray Allen or Johnny Damon?
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2012, 10:16:58 PM »

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At first I went with Damon, but then it occurred to me this is like saying "Who's worse? Benedict Arnold or that kid that joined Al Qaeda?"

Um...Benedict Arnold?

Re: Who is worse, ray Allen or Johnny Damon?
« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2012, 10:18:39 PM »

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Look folks. Ray is not Bin Laden. ???

Re: Who is worse, ray Allen or Johnny Damon?
« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2012, 10:20:25 PM »

Offline EJPLAYA

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Damon by a long shot! The Yankees are Historical Rivals since forever, where the Heat are really only detested this bad because of Lebron. The Heat aren't really Rivals. Had he gone to the Lakers, then it would have been a toss up.

Re: Who is worse, ray Allen or Johnny Damon?
« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2012, 10:28:51 PM »

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Look folks. Ray is not Bin Laden. ???
He's not Benedict Arnold either. Let's just be clear there so there's no confusion. They're very different people.

Just to be clear

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/analogy


Re: Who is worse, ray Allen or Johnny Damon?
« Reply #52 on: July 07, 2012, 10:41:57 PM »

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Has ray called Kg or PP to say why he left and goodbye?