Ray Allen or Nick Young

[celticinorlando]

Rather Have Allen, but I have already come to grips with him leaving,  so I'm not pretending he is still on the team.

Probelm is Bradley won't be back for 6 months at least , somebody has got to fill his shoes.

Rather have John Wall..

how much time AB misses is key..Doc said December...is this accurate? if that is the case..boston can't go into the season with just JET at the SG...and I still don't think peaches is a legit starter for any amount of time at the 2...

[Who]

I like Nick Young but I don't think he offers much value to the Celtics with Jason Terry here.

I'll take a pass.

[cltc5]

Young is 6'7.  Can play the 2/3.  He can defend and is a decent handler/passer.  can also create his own shot.  I like Ray but oung has a better upside for us and gives us more options..  I think This team is fine with the acquisition of Terry and Young with or without Ray.  I like Pietrus but he is not better than Nick young.  He has more length but is a pretty straight up shooter aka cant really create his own shot.  Rondo running the floor with green, young/terry would give teams panic attacks.  Did I mention it makes this team younger?  If we're paing the same as ray or less, I'd say do it.

When has Young ever defended?


DC is so happy he is gone.


The Clippers biggest need is SG and has already said "goodbye"


These type of things speaks volume about a guy.

Why do so many people speak in generalizations when talking about a guy..."  He can't defend"  As if it's something that he can't be coached to do.  That's like saying well his teeth will always be yellow because he never brushes them .  You make it sound like he stands around and does nothing.  Do you think any coach is gonna allow that?

[Who]

Rather Have Allen, but I have already come to grips with him leaving,  so I'm not pretending he is still on the team.

Probelm is Bradley won't be back for 6 months at least , somebody has got to fill his shoes.

Rather have John Wall..

how much time AB misses is key..Doc said December...is this accurate? if that is the case..boston can't go into the season with just JET at the SG...and I still don't think peaches is a legit starter for any amount of time at the 2...

I'd like DeShawn Stevenson on a minimum contract. Happy with a minimal role and capable of stepping into a 20-25mpg starter's role. Solid defender/rebounder and complementary offensive player (can shoot, handle and pass).

I think he'd do really well as a temporary starter while Bradley is out and provide nice depth as a backup SG -- a power two with solid size and excellent strength. Someone with physical toughness who can defend bigger twos. Who knows how to keep himself ready (despite lack of playing time) and be prepared to play whenever called upon.

[LEHGOCELTICS]

I see some posters talking about Young's defense, but it's not like Ray Allen is good on D at his advanced age.

It was always subpar, quite frankly, even in his prime. Nick Young is no worse a defender than Allen was back in Seattle or in Milwaukee. People mistake team defensive prowess for individual defensive skill. It'll be fine guys, I'd be a very happy man with Nick starting for us at SG.

[celticinorlando]

AB's injury worries me..and i don't like have Jet and Pietrus (who is more of a SF) as the options at the 2....i think they need one more scorer just in case..

Rondo
AB
Terry
Peaches
PP
KG
Green
Bass
Wilcox
Sully
Melo
JJJ


i would like to see one more shooter added to that group

[moiso]

and if allen walks...young is about the best the celtics can do for a SG

Gosh, I hope that's not true. Young strikes me as J.R. Smith with even less restraint or court sense.

Yeah, kinda, but I would definitely take Nick Young and see how he adapts to being on an actual team in which the players have some accountability.  I think I would take him over Ray not only for his potential improvement, but for his young legs.

He is similar to JR Smith, but he is also a SG version of Micheal Beasley, who everyone seems to want.

[cltc5]

I love Allen and Peaches just like the next guy becasue of the effort they put in, but I'll feel that way with anyone who gives an effort for the C's.  Im not so enamored with a name or what someone has done for us to see that a change that could be an upgrade/potential future benefit is the best decicion.  Lots of people brag about how great a coach Doc is, well lets see what he does with new players.

[celticinorlando]

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RT @MrTrpleDouble10: Mannix on WEEI: "Signing Jason Terry SIGNIFICANTLY diminished the Celtics' chances of re-signing Ray Allen"

i am at the point where i would rather see boston invest in a big man than try to replace ray...i guess they would have enough with rondo, bradley, PP, green and Terry...get some help down low..and no...not bass..i like bass..but not as a starter

[Chris]

BTW, if Ray does not return, my money is on Green starting while Bradley is out.  They had some success last year going big and sliding Pierce to the SG position, and I think they can do it again.  

[StartOrien]

Ray Allen > Most SG's > Nick Young

[celticinorlando]

BTW, if Ray does not return, my money is on Green starting while Bradley is out.  They had some success last year going big and sliding Pierce to the SG position, and I think they can do it again.  

now this makes the most sense...resign peaches to back up green....let terry back up pierce at the SG...i would be good with this

[Lucky17]

Rather Have Allen, but I have already come to grips with him leaving,  so I'm not pretending he is still on the team.

Probelm is Bradley won't be back for 6 months at least , somebody has got to fill his shoes.

Rather have John Wall..

how much time AB misses is key..Doc said December...is this accurate? if that is the case..boston can't go into the season with just JET at the SG...and I still don't think peaches is a legit starter for any amount of time at the 2...

I'd like DeShawn Stevenson on a minimum contract. Happy with a minimal role and capable of stepping into a 20-25mpg starter's role. Solid defender/rebounder and complementary offensive player (can shoot, handle and pass).

I think he'd do really well as a temporary starter while Bradley is out and provide nice depth as a backup SG -- a power two with solid size and excellent strength. Someone with physical toughness who can defend bigger twos. Who knows how to keep himself ready (despite lack of playing time) and be prepared to play whenever called upon.

Stevenson would probably come cheap.

Another guy I'd like, because I've always liked his all-around game: Carlos Delfino.

[celticinorlando]

BTW, if Ray does not return, my money is on Green starting while Bradley is out.  They had some success last year going big and sliding Pierce to the SG position, and I think they can do it again.  

and your 4th quarter closing line up would be Rondo, Terry, PP, Green and KG

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

and if allen walks...young is about the best the celtics can do for a SG

Pietrus would be a better choice.  He actually defends.

I like Pietrus, and I hope he's back, but I sometimes wonder if people put too much emphasis on defense.

Don't get me wrong; I prefer players who can play good D, but it seems like we Cs fans often want guys who play good to great D but give little on offense—Pietrus, Stiemsma, Daniels, Pavs—and then we complain about long scoring droughts.

The best thing, of course, is to have a team full of players who are good on offense AND defense, but that's unrealistic, so if it's OK to have some players who specialize in D with little offense, what's wrong with having one or two who specialize in offense with little D? If there's a game situation in which we need more defense, play Bradley; if there's a situation in which we need more offense, play Terry or Young.

And let's not forget that Young comes from an environment (DC) that fosters terrible defense and knuckleheaded behavior; maybe he turns both those things around in the right environment. I prefer Ray, but if he walks, I think a gamble on Young (at the right price, of course) is a worthwhile venture.