Ray Allen or Nick Young

[jdub1660]

and if allen walks...young is about the best the celtics can do for a SG

TP
+1

I think the 2nd best trait of Nick Young is the main target against him here...youth and inexperienced
The kid can shoot, just give him a PG that can get him open looks.
And defense? Did anyone watch Ray Allen in Seattle? Obviously not. Rondo,Pierce and KG could've produced the same production out of Michael Redd had he not had a knee issue that year.

And for everyone that is hating on Young, think about Ray walking off for nothing...
We could get Young and resign Pietrus. I'd much rather him play the Sasha role

Rondo,Young,Pierce,KG,Melo
Terry,Bradley,Green,Bass,Sullinger
Moore,Quis,Pietrus,JJJ,(free agent Center/Steisma is GONE)

[LEHGOCELTICS]

I don't think this is a valid question because it seems very bleak that he returns, and in that scenario, I'd have Nick Young any day  over losing him for nothing.

[celticinorlando]

and if allen walks...young is about the best the celtics can do for a SG

Pietrus would be a better choice.  He actually defends.

I'd like him back for depth no matter what happens.

So would I, but I see him not coming back if Allen and Green sign.



I think Daniels would do well as the extra SF/SG  (5th guard, third SF)

daniels needs to go far away and never return. pietrus can play the 2 and 3 and he can help PP and green defend lebron. I think he comes back no matter what

i have no problem about young buying in...celtics are too strong for him not to...and it would give boston 3 athletic guards along with jeff green...imagine young (could ave 12-15 off the bench), terry and green..that is a heck of a bench

Doc will get him to defend

[wdleehi]

and if allen walks...young is about the best the celtics can do for a SG

Pietrus would be a better choice.  He actually defends.

I'd like him back for depth no matter what happens.

So would I, but I see him not coming back if Allen and Green sign.



I think Daniels would do well as the extra SF/SG  (5th guard, third SF)

daniels needs to go far away and never return. pietrus can play the 2 and 3 and he can help PP and green defend lebron. I think he comes back no matter what

i have no problem about him buying in...celtics are too strong for him not to

Can you find a better extra SG/SF then Daniels?  He knows the system.  He is a good defender.  He can step in and have the level of production that the Celtics need from him without regular playing time. 


Pietrus should be getting constant minutes.  If the Celtics bring in another SG (Ray please), and they have Pierce and Green, where is he going to get his minutes?

[alley oop]

Heat President Pat Riley is currently at his Los Angeles-area home, but Tanner said Allen's meeting with the Heat would be in South Florida.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/miami-heat-ray-allen-meeting-agent-jim-tanner-confirms-allens-free-agency-visit-with-miami-heat

[Chris]

I think it makes sense in a double sign and trade.  

I am not a Nick Young fan at all, but he clearly has a ton of talent, and is in the upper echelon in the NBA of guys with pure scoring ability.  

He also has spent the majority of his career in that graveyard in Washington, where all they do is kill potential.

He is most certainly high risk for failure, but if Doc is as good as they say, then the chance of him building a ton of value is decent enough to take a chance.

You can't teach what he has, and you can teach what he needs to learn.  It wouldn't be a home run, but if the price is right, he could really help this team out, and help to extend the career of Pierce and KG.

[celticinorlando]

and if allen walks...young is about the best the celtics can do for a SG

Pietrus would be a better choice.  He actually defends.

I'd like him back for depth no matter what happens.

So would I, but I see him not coming back if Allen and Green sign.



I think Daniels would do well as the extra SF/SG  (5th guard, third SF)

daniels needs to go far away and never return. pietrus can play the 2 and 3 and he can help PP and green defend lebron. I think he comes back no matter what

i have no problem about him buying in...celtics are too strong for him not to

Can you find a better extra SG/SF then Daniels?  He knows the system.  He is a good defender.  He can step in and have the level of production that the Celtics need from him without regular playing time. 


Pietrus should be getting constant minutes.  If the Celtics bring in another SG (Ray please), and they have Pierce and Green, where is he going to get his minutes?

well PP's minutes are going to come WAY down...i would think that Pietrus would flex between the 2 and the 3...AB is still a question mark with, green is one year removed from heart surgery...you never know what might happen to pierce..i just think having only SG on the roster (terry and bradley) is a mistake...pietrus to more of a 3 to me... don't like him playing heavy minutes at the 2...plus pietrus can defend and honestly..boston has to defend lebron to win the east...

daniels is far from a good defender...he is a wasted bench spot

[Lord of Mikawa]

Ray Allen

[celticinorlando]

and if allen walks...young is about the best the celtics can do for a SG

Pietrus would be a better choice.  He actually defends.

I'd like him back for depth no matter what happens.

So would I, but I see him not coming back if Allen and Green sign.



I think Daniels would do well as the extra SF/SG  (5th guard, third SF)

daniels needs to go far away and never return. pietrus can play the 2 and 3 and he can help PP and green defend lebron. I think he comes back no matter what

i have no problem about him buying in...celtics are too strong for him not to

Can you find a better extra SG/SF then Daniels?  He knows the system.  He is a good defender.  He can step in and have the level of production that the Celtics need from him without regular playing time. 


Pietrus should be getting constant minutes.  If the Celtics bring in another SG (Ray please), and they have Pierce and Green, where is he going to get his minutes?

lets say they follow your model..they bring in pietrus and not another SG...you would still be in favor of bringing back daniels? i would prefer they look elsewhere..daniels just doesn't do much for this team...i mean they have to replace the dead weight on the bench...sasha, daniels, williams, hollins...

[Chris]

and if allen walks...young is about the best the celtics can do for a SG

Pietrus would be a better choice.  He actually defends.

I'd like him back for depth no matter what happens.

So would I, but I see him not coming back if Allen and Green sign.



I think Daniels would do well as the extra SF/SG  (5th guard, third SF)

daniels needs to go far away and never return. pietrus can play the 2 and 3 and he can help PP and green defend lebron. I think he comes back no matter what

i have no problem about him buying in...celtics are too strong for him not to

Can you find a better extra SG/SF then Daniels?  He knows the system.  He is a good defender.  He can step in and have the level of production that the Celtics need from him without regular playing time. 


Pietrus should be getting constant minutes.  If the Celtics bring in another SG (Ray please), and they have Pierce and Green, where is he going to get his minutes?

While he does know the system, Daniels looked completely cooked last season, other than that 1 game in the playoffs.  I don't know if it is from fear for his spine, or he just has lost that extra step.  But, I am not sure he is anything close to a reliable NBA player, even at the end of the bench anymore.

I expect there to be much better options out there (Pavlovic knows the system, for example).

[wdleehi]

and if allen walks...young is about the best the celtics can do for a SG

Pietrus would be a better choice.  He actually defends.

I'd like him back for depth no matter what happens.

So would I, but I see him not coming back if Allen and Green sign.



I think Daniels would do well as the extra SF/SG  (5th guard, third SF)

daniels needs to go far away and never return. pietrus can play the 2 and 3 and he can help PP and green defend lebron. I think he comes back no matter what

i have no problem about him buying in...celtics are too strong for him not to

Can you find a better extra SG/SF then Daniels?  He knows the system.  He is a good defender.  He can step in and have the level of production that the Celtics need from him without regular playing time. 


Pietrus should be getting constant minutes.  If the Celtics bring in another SG (Ray please), and they have Pierce and Green, where is he going to get his minutes?

lets say they follow your model..they bring in pietrus and not another SG...you would still be in favor of bringing back daniels? i would prefer they look elsewhere..daniels just doesn't do much for this team...i mean they have to replace the dead weight on the bench...sasha, daniels, williams, hollins...

Yes, I would bring him back.  


He stepped in a had good games in the playoffs.



He would only be used when there are injuries.  (behind Pierce, Ray, Rondo, Terry, Bradley, Green)


He could step into three different positions in an emergency.  

[celticinorlando]

and if allen walks...young is about the best the celtics can do for a SG

Pietrus would be a better choice.  He actually defends.

I'd like him back for depth no matter what happens.

So would I, but I see him not coming back if Allen and Green sign.



I think Daniels would do well as the extra SF/SG  (5th guard, third SF)

daniels needs to go far away and never return. pietrus can play the 2 and 3 and he can help PP and green defend lebron. I think he comes back no matter what

i have no problem about him buying in...celtics are too strong for him not to

Can you find a better extra SG/SF then Daniels?  He knows the system.  He is a good defender.  He can step in and have the level of production that the Celtics need from him without regular playing time. 


Pietrus should be getting constant minutes.  If the Celtics bring in another SG (Ray please), and they have Pierce and Green, where is he going to get his minutes?

lets say they follow your model..they bring in pietrus and not another SG...you would still be in favor of bringing back daniels? i would prefer they look elsewhere..daniels just doesn't do much for this team...i mean they have to replace the dead weight on the bench...sasha, daniels, williams, hollins...

Yes, I would bring him back.  


He stepped in a had good games in the playoffs.



He would only be used when there are injuries.  (behind Pierce, Ray, Rondo, Terry, Bradley, Green)


He could step into three different positions in an emergency.  

i just think boston has a chance to get younger..daniels is done. he had one good game in the playoffs and still lost his man at the end of the game...i'd rather keep sasha than daniels

i think ray will be gone..so you need to replace his points with someone...and terry is really coming in to finally give boston some bench punch on offense...

[SHAQATTACK]

Rather Have Allen, but I have already come to grips with him leaving,  so I'm not pretending he is still on the team.

Probelm is Bradley won't be back for 6 months at least , somebody has got to fill his shoes.

Rather have John Wall..

[ScottHow]

I see some posters talking about Young's defense, but it's not like Ray Allen is good on D at his advanced age.

[mctyson]

The only redeeming quality about Marquis Daniels is that you can DNP him for 4 weeks straight, he won't complain, and then you can throw him into the lineup and he'll produce as if he had been starting the past month.  Which is why he should never start.