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Was it smart to land Terry?

Yes: Great move
94 (88.7%)
No: I hate the move
3 (2.8%)
Not sure yet
9 (8.5%)

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Voting closed: July 23, 2012, 05:23:30 PM

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Re: Terry: Bad idea or Good idea
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2012, 11:01:05 PM »

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I am not sure it was said buy Terry gives us much more flexibility. since he can play the Point Guard position While Ray is at the shooting Guard spot on the second team thus Dooling would be the odd man out. Thus we could afford Bass at 6Mil/per for 3 years. Thus, Petrius could be brought back into the fold as a Back up at both the two & three

Re: Terry: Bad idea or Good idea
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2012, 11:10:37 PM »

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This is a great move.  I was hoping they could sign Terry but wasn't confident because the Celtics never seemed to have a firepower scorer off the bench. 

Terry is getting up there in age but he hasn't lost any of his quickness.  Could he decline in year two of the deal? Sure but so could Pierce and Garnett.  Hell, all three could decline next season.  They're set up for a full rebuild in short time anyway.  They should be going all out for next season and based on how Terry looked last season, he's a good bet to be a very good player next season.

Terry is a reserve who can get his own shot and put up consistent points game in and game out, regardless of the quality of competition.  The Celtics have needed that in forever, along with another guy who is coldblooed in the fourth quarter and in big moments.   

Re: Terry: Bad idea or Good idea
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2012, 11:13:22 PM »

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I'd say the Terry move is both. I love it for next year, but I cringe at another player that old taking up cap during Rondo's prime.

Re: Terry: Bad idea or Good idea
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2012, 11:15:59 PM »

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If he is getting the mid-level what does that leave for a center???

Re: Terry: Bad idea or Good idea
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2012, 11:46:36 PM »

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If he is getting the mid-level what does that leave for a center???

KG's the center and if Steamer returns, he and maybe Melo will be the backups.  It's not the greatest situations, as far as backups go anyway but it's really hard to find centers in general and nearly impossible to find great backup centers.  With KG as one of the bigs, the Celtics are still way ahead of most teams.

I don't know the financials but I hope Camby is still possible.  His signing would complete a dream scenario for me of fixing the rebounding (because of both Camby and Sullinger) and bench scoring in one offseason.

If Bass returns, I think Sullinger starts over him.  Bass stuck as a starter because he played well but also because there were no other options.  Sullinger's rebounding, high basketball IQ and versatile skillset makes him capable of playing with the starting unit.

Re: Terry: Bad idea or Good idea
« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2012, 11:09:02 AM »

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Ray will probably make his decision by next week,  so therefore the celtics will be signing other players will they are waiting

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« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2012, 11:51:12 AM »

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Good idea for the upcoming season, however, he will be a terrible contract on that third yr as he will be what...38?. If so he will become trade bait.

Re: Terry: Bad idea or Good idea
« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2012, 11:58:42 AM »

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GReat move. I love Ray but I love the fact that Danny did not wait for him to get someone who can help the team immediately.

We could still sign Ray. But if we don't because of the Jet acquisition, im fine with it. I can probably say that Jet is better than Ray right now anyways.
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Re: Terry: Bad idea or Good idea
« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2012, 12:09:43 PM »

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If he is getting the mid-level what does that leave for a center???

I am guessing Melo, KG, Stiesmsa if we sign him and perhaps Hollins.

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« Reply #54 on: July 04, 2012, 12:11:28 PM »

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If he is getting the mid-level what does that leave for a center???

I am guessing Melo, KG, Stiesmsa if we sign him and perhaps Hollins.

  Wilcox would be better than Hollins (or probably Steimsma).

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« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2012, 12:16:33 PM »

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If he is getting the mid-level what does that leave for a center???

I am guessing Melo, KG, Stiesmsa if we sign him and perhaps Hollins.

  Wilcox would be better than Hollins (or probably Steimsma).



What center are we going to get for the MLE when a guy like Asik (3ppg, 5rpg, and 1 bpg) is getting an 8 million a year contract?

Steamahs numbers are basically identical to Asiks, Im more than happy with him as a 2/3rd center option. I also think Wilcox will resign for a one year vet min and Id be more than estatic to see him back in green at the back up center minutes.

Re: Terry: Bad idea or Good idea
« Reply #56 on: July 04, 2012, 12:28:31 PM »

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Been checking to see how JET has been as PG. He has not played PG much since Devin Harris and then Jason Kidd showed up. Anyone else have insights as to his ability to play PG in the NBA at this stage in his career?

People in Dallas seem to view him as a more natural SG; but a better PG than Marquis when he was sharing PG duties with JET before Harris arrived.
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Re: Terry: Bad idea or Good idea
« Reply #57 on: July 04, 2012, 12:36:23 PM »

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I really like the JET signing.  Have liked him as a player for years and I think he is an amazing fit for the C's.  I think the Eddie House comparison is minor insult to Terry -- JET does so much more than Eddie.

C's do need a center and I think still have 5 potential avenues for getting anything from a serviceable 5 to a good 5:

1. Sign Nenad Kristyc
2. S&T Bass
3. S&T Ray
4. Biannual Exception
5. Trade Bradley and other youth

My guess is a run at Camby with the BAE.  S&T of Bass is the next likely.   I wouldn't mind Nenad back in green -- but certainly doesn't excite me either.

A Bradley trade is unlikely, but if packaged with JJJ, Melo, Sully and/or picks, I think C's could land some talent -- it will require some $$ going out, so I'm not sure how that would get done.

What are the rules regarding an S&T within a bigger trade?  I have it in my head that an S&T has to stand alone (traded alone) rather than be part of a multi-player deal.  Is that correct?

Re: Terry: Bad idea or Good idea
« Reply #58 on: July 04, 2012, 12:36:55 PM »

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Without question, great move.  Now let's hope it becomes official.

Meh..

I still remain unconvinced we weren't better off using the MLE to get a big.

I look at it like this--Allen+MLE big>Allen+Terry+scrap heap big

Maybe we were never getting a big for the MLE though anyways.  Maybe Allen was gone already anyways.  This was just not my preferred outcome, it was more plan "B".

The only big out there that interested me is Camby, and we're already off his short list. Kaman maybe, but he's not coming for just the MLE.

The only other guy worthwhile to me may be Krstic, however mixed the opinions are on him, and he probably doesn't need MLE money, anyways. Either way, we have Krstic's bird rights. My only question is if they have mutual interest in each other. 

Oh and that said, great idea to sign Terry. MLE is perfect, considering that again, no big out there is worth the MLE or would take it.

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« Reply #59 on: July 04, 2012, 12:44:34 PM »

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If he is getting the mid-level what does that leave for a center???

I am guessing Melo, KG, Stiesmsa if we sign him and perhaps Hollins.

  Wilcox would be better than Hollins (or probably Steimsma).



What center are we going to get for the MLE when a guy like Asik (3ppg, 5rpg, and 1 bpg) is getting an 8 million a year contract?

Steamahs numbers are basically identical to Asiks, Im more than happy with him as a 2/3rd center option. I also think Wilcox will resign for a one year vet min and Id be more than estatic to see him back in green at the back up center minutes.

Nenad?
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