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Re: celts would offer JET full MLE
« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2012, 01:15:56 PM »

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Are we working under the assumption that Dallas wouldn't match an MLE offer, and that Terry wouldn't accept a Dallas offer if they match?

Doesn't Dallas need to clear some space if they're going to sign Deron Williams?  I don't think they've got the money to sign D-Will, and bring back Terry.  Now, if D-Will stays in Brooklyn, Dallas will probably push hard to keep JET.


Celtics need Williams to drag his feet.

...  or just sign in Dallas, which is what I'm rooting for.  Mostly because of how it would completely screw with Dwight.


No, the dragging feet is more entertaining. 



Re: celts would offer JET full MLE
« Reply #61 on: July 03, 2012, 01:17:46 PM »

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Would much rather have Terry than Allen. Terry is used to coming off the bench and has been a tremendous 6th man with Dallas throughout his career.

Ray Allen's game has declined and doesn't like coming off the bench.

Personally, I don't understand the infatuation with retaining Ray. Time to move on.

I want to keep Ray if we can because I believe in loyalty and chemistry.

However, in honesty, what you say about Terry is true about him being a better fit for the role and another factor is that Terry is more of a shot creator than Ray is, which is what we need in addition to shooting from that 6th man.

I believe in loyalty and chemistry, as well.  Unfortunately, I'm starting to have my doubts whether Ray Allen does.
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Re: celts would offer JET full MLE
« Reply #62 on: July 03, 2012, 01:18:09 PM »

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Are we working under the assumption that Dallas wouldn't match an MLE offer, and that Terry wouldn't accept a Dallas offer if they match?

Doesn't Dallas need to clear some space if they're going to sign Deron Williams?  I don't think they've got the money to sign D-Will, and bring back Terry.  Now, if D-Will stays in Brooklyn, Dallas will probably push hard to keep JET.


Celtics need Williams to drag his feet.

...  or just sign in Dallas, which is what I'm rooting for.  Mostly because of how it would completely screw with Dwight.


No, the dragging feet is more entertaining. 




I want there to be a new "Decision" show, for when D-Will makes him mind up.  Except that instead of showing D-Will making his announcement that he's taking his talents to Dallas, I want to watch a close up of Dwight Howard's mug as his jaw drops and he begins to cry.

Re: celts would offer JET full MLE
« Reply #63 on: July 03, 2012, 01:19:30 PM »

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Would much rather have Terry than Allen. Terry is used to coming off the bench and has been a tremendous 6th man with Dallas throughout his career.

Ray Allen's game has declined and doesn't like coming off the bench.

Personally, I don't understand the infatuation with retaining Ray. Time to move on.

I want to keep Ray if we can because I believe in loyalty and chemistry.

However, in honesty, what you say about Terry is true about him being a better fit for the role and another factor is that Terry is more of a shot creator than Ray is, which is what we need in addition to shooting from that 6th man.

I believe in loyalty and chemistry, as well.  Unfortunately, I'm starting to have my doubts whether Ray Allen does.

Because he hasn't signed three days into free agency (and more than a week before he can officially, anyway?).  Give me a break.  It's a business. 

Re: celts would offer JET full MLE
« Reply #64 on: July 03, 2012, 01:21:36 PM »

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Would much rather have Terry than Allen. Terry is used to coming off the bench and has been a tremendous 6th man with Dallas throughout his career.

Ray Allen's game has declined and doesn't like coming off the bench.

Personally, I don't understand the infatuation with retaining Ray. Time to move on.

I want to keep Ray if we can because I believe in loyalty and chemistry.

However, in honesty, what you say about Terry is true about him being a better fit for the role and another factor is that Terry is more of a shot creator than Ray is, which is what we need in addition to shooting from that 6th man.

I believe in loyalty and chemistry, as well.  Unfortunately, I'm starting to have my doubts whether Ray Allen does.


I also worry that the Celtics become so much smaller in the backcourt.


I want all four players

Re: celts would offer JET full MLE
« Reply #65 on: July 03, 2012, 01:22:29 PM »

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Would much rather have Terry than Allen. Terry is used to coming off the bench and has been a tremendous 6th man with Dallas throughout his career.

Ray Allen's game has declined and doesn't like coming off the bench.

Personally, I don't understand the infatuation with retaining Ray. Time to move on.

I want to keep Ray if we can because I believe in loyalty and chemistry.

However, in honesty, what you say about Terry is true about him being a better fit for the role and another factor is that Terry is more of a shot creator than Ray is, which is what we need in addition to shooting from that 6th man.

I believe in loyalty and chemistry, as well.  Unfortunately, I'm starting to have my doubts whether Ray Allen does.

Because he hasn't signed three days into free agency (and more than a week before he can officially, anyway?).  Give me a break.  It's a business. 

Right.  It's a business, and for Ray Allen there is no loyalty in it.  Hey, it's his right, and as others have mentioned what Kevin Garnett did is extremely rare in pro sports these days.  I just wish there were a little more of it on all sides.  

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Re: celts would offer JET full MLE
« Reply #66 on: July 03, 2012, 01:24:12 PM »

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Would much rather have Terry than Allen. Terry is used to coming off the bench and has been a tremendous 6th man with Dallas throughout his career.

Ray Allen's game has declined and doesn't like coming off the bench.

Personally, I don't understand the infatuation with retaining Ray. Time to move on.

I want to keep Ray if we can because I believe in loyalty and chemistry.

However, in honesty, what you say about Terry is true about him being a better fit for the role and another factor is that Terry is more of a shot creator than Ray is, which is what we need in addition to shooting from that 6th man.

I believe in loyalty and chemistry, as well.  Unfortunately, I'm starting to have my doubts whether Ray Allen does.

Because he hasn't signed three days into free agency (and more than a week before he can officially, anyway?).  Give me a break.  It's a business. 

What I'm finding funny is people calling into question Ray's loyalty, when the Celtics organization hasn't reciprocated it. In specific, trying to trade him at pretty much every single opportunity in the past few seasons.

So... why should Ray feel loyal to us under this circumstances? It takes two to tango.

I also find it funny that people are focusing on Ray losing his starting job as the catalyst for him looking at all his options.

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« Reply #67 on: July 03, 2012, 01:24:39 PM »

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Dallas doesn't want to keep terry for a multitear deal...the cs likely will which is why he may come here imo

Re: celts would offer JET full MLE
« Reply #68 on: July 03, 2012, 01:29:03 PM »

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Forget about loyalty to the cs...wat about loyalty to doc/pp/kg who he has been with for 5 years and want him back

He would rather take less $$ to BEAT them than join them?

Re: celts would offer JET full MLE
« Reply #69 on: July 03, 2012, 01:32:33 PM »

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Would much rather have Terry than Allen. Terry is used to coming off the bench and has been a tremendous 6th man with Dallas throughout his career.

Ray Allen's game has declined and doesn't like coming off the bench.

Personally, I don't understand the infatuation with retaining Ray. Time to move on.

I want to keep Ray if we can because I believe in loyalty and chemistry.

However, in honesty, what you say about Terry is true about him being a better fit for the role and another factor is that Terry is more of a shot creator than Ray is, which is what we need in addition to shooting from that 6th man.

I believe in loyalty and chemistry, as well.  Unfortunately, I'm starting to have my doubts whether Ray Allen does.

Because he hasn't signed three days into free agency (and more than a week before he can officially, anyway?).  Give me a break.  It's a business. 

What I'm finding funny is people calling into question Ray's loyalty, when the Celtics organization hasn't reciprocated it. In specific, trying to trade him at pretty much every single opportunity in the past few seasons.

So... why should Ray feel loyal to us under this circumstances? It takes two to tango.

I also find it funny that people are focusing on Ray losing his starting job as the catalyst for him looking at all his options.

Let me re-phrase this.  I don't blame Ray Allen if he feels that the Celtics organization hasn't been loyal to him over the last couple of seasons.  Let's be honest, they haven't exactly been.

In turn, Ray is probably feeling less than loyal towards the Boston Celtics.  So, maybe that means he's ready to move on.  If that's the case, then the sooner he makes up his mind, the better it is for us.  I guess that's all I'm saying.  

Oh yeah, and don't you dare go to the Heat.  As far as I'm concerned, that would come dangerously close to crossing the line into vindictiveness.  

Hopefully, Ray surprises me and decides to come back.  Soon!  Then, I'll be willing to let bygones be bygones and pretend this whole little incident never happened.  

 
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Re: celts would offer JET full MLE
« Reply #70 on: July 03, 2012, 01:36:01 PM »

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Would much rather have Terry than Allen. Terry is used to coming off the bench and has been a tremendous 6th man with Dallas throughout his career.

Ray Allen's game has declined and doesn't like coming off the bench.

Personally, I don't understand the infatuation with retaining Ray. Time to move on.

I want to keep Ray if we can because I believe in loyalty and chemistry.

However, in honesty, what you say about Terry is true about him being a better fit for the role and another factor is that Terry is more of a shot creator than Ray is, which is what we need in addition to shooting from that 6th man.

I believe in loyalty and chemistry, as well.  Unfortunately, I'm starting to have my doubts whether Ray Allen does.

Because he hasn't signed three days into free agency (and more than a week before he can officially, anyway?).  Give me a break.  It's a business. 

What I'm finding funny is people calling into question Ray's loyalty, when the Celtics organization hasn't reciprocated it. In specific, trying to trade him at pretty much every single opportunity in the past few seasons.

So... why should Ray feel loyal to us under this circumstances? It takes two to tango.

I also find it funny that people are focusing on Ray losing his starting job as the catalyst for him looking at all his options.

Losing his starting job seems to have dug into Ray's pride.  I can imagine, he's been a starter probably since he first picked up a basketball, and it did happen (indirectly) as a result of getting injured.  

But, I don't blame the C's for looking into trade options for Ray before.  Danny's loyalty is to the team, not any individual player.  I don't blame Ray for considering his other option; maybe he'd have a chance to have a 30MPG role on another contending squad.  Maybe he's sick of the cold and wants to live in Miami (wouldn't be the first time that's influenced a player's decision).

I hope Ray comes back because I believe he's a better player than he showed at the end of the season, and because I believe he can be a tremendous weapon off the bench.  But I don't begrudge him one iota for wanting to look around first.

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« Reply #71 on: July 03, 2012, 02:01:11 PM »

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I also find it funny that people are focusing on Ray losing his starting job as the catalyst for him looking at all his options.

It's been a commonly cited story... so why is it funny?
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« Reply #72 on: July 03, 2012, 02:14:16 PM »

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I would actually rather have Terry more than Allen. He's a bit younger and imo I think he can do more than just shoot like Ray.

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« Reply #73 on: July 03, 2012, 02:19:46 PM »

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Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo

Celtics are in final discussions on terms of a multi-year deal with Mavericks free agent guard Jason Terry, sources tells Yahoo! Sports.
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Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo

Keep in mind Celtics coach Doc Rivers said he wanted both Ray Allen & Jason Terry in this recent Yahoo! Sports story: http://yhoo.it/N6SaOF


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« Reply #74 on: July 03, 2012, 02:21:28 PM »

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Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo

Celtics are in final discussions on terms of a multi-year deal with Mavericks free agent guard Jason Terry, sources tells Yahoo! Sports.
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Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo

Keep in mind Celtics coach Doc Rivers said he wanted both Ray Allen & Jason Terry in this recent Yahoo! Sports story: http://yhoo.it/N6SaOF



Woo!!!! Just hope it's not more than 2 years.