Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics

[MBunge]

Green can play in the post, can hit the three, can run the floor with Rondo and Bradley, and can guard wings very well. He's still very young and has not had a full season or training camp with us. Give him a full season with Rondo, KG, and Doc and you will see his full potential. Rondo made Bass look like an all-star, he can make Green look like a hall of famer.

Bass had a skill set that fit into the Celtics plan.  He could hit the open mid range shot.


Green is not an outside shooter.  (.337)

Green also fits into the Celtics plan in that they HAVE to have bigger, more athletic wings if they want a chance to beat Miami.  Green's career shooting average is 44% and would be better than that if he stopped taking 3s, which he isn't any good at.  Green is also a much better rebounder for a small forward than Bass is for a power forward.

Mike

[wdleehi]

Green can play in the post, can hit the three, can run the floor with Rondo and Bradley, and can guard wings very well. He's still very young and has not had a full season or training camp with us. Give him a full season with Rondo, KG, and Doc and you will see his full potential. Rondo made Bass look like an all-star, he can make Green look like a hall of famer.

Bass had a skill set that fit into the Celtics plan.  He could hit the open mid range shot.


Green is not an outside shooter.  (.337)

Green also fits into the Celtics plan in that they HAVE to have bigger, more athletic wings if they want a chance to beat Miami.  Green's career shooting average is 44% and would be better than that if he stopped taking 3s, which he isn't any good at.  Green is also a much better rebounder for a small forward than Bass is for a power forward.

Mike

The teams that gave Miami the most trouble were the teams that were bigger then Miami.  Not the teams that tried to match their athletes.


The Celtics are not going to match up with there athletes. 


KG's size (on the court vs, off the court) was the biggest difference.  That's the direction the Celtics should look. 

[MBunge]

Green can play in the post, can hit the three, can run the floor with Rondo and Bradley, and can guard wings very well. He's still very young and has not had a full season or training camp with us. Give him a full season with Rondo, KG, and Doc and you will see his full potential. Rondo made Bass look like an all-star, he can make Green look like a hall of famer.

Bass had a skill set that fit into the Celtics plan.  He could hit the open mid range shot.


Green is not an outside shooter.  (.337)

Green also fits into the Celtics plan in that they HAVE to have bigger, more athletic wings if they want a chance to beat Miami.  Green's career shooting average is 44% and would be better than that if he stopped taking 3s, which he isn't any good at.  Green is also a much better rebounder for a small forward than Bass is for a power forward.

Mike

The teams that gave Miami the most trouble were the teams that were bigger then Miami.  Not the teams that tried to match their athletes.


The Celtics are not going to match up with there athletes. 


KG's size (on the court vs, off the court) was the biggest difference.  That's the direction the Celtics should look. 

LeBron averaged more points and rebounds and shot the ball better against the Celtics than any other team in this past playoffs, and the physical gap between LeBron and Pierce is only going to get wider next season.

Mike

[hpantazo]

Green can play in the post, can hit the three, can run the floor with Rondo and Bradley, and can guard wings very well. He's still very young and has not had a full season or training camp with us. Give him a full season with Rondo, KG, and Doc and you will see his full potential. Rondo made Bass look like an all-star, he can make Green look like a hall of famer.

Bass had a skill set that fit into the Celtics plan.  He could hit the open mid range shot.


Green is not an outside shooter.  (.337)

Green also fits into the Celtics plan in that they HAVE to have bigger, more athletic wings if they want a chance to beat Miami.  Green's career shooting average is 44% and would be better than that if he stopped taking 3s, which he isn't any good at.  Green is also a much better rebounder for a small forward than Bass is for a power forward.

Mike

The teams that gave Miami the most trouble were the teams that were bigger then Miami.  Not the teams that tried to match their athletes.


The Celtics are not going to match up with there athletes. 


KG's size (on the court vs, off the court) was the biggest difference.  That's the direction the Celtics should look. 

I think we can do both. Sullinger, Melo, plus someone like Kaman along with Jeff Green and Bradley will accomplish this.

[hpantazo]

Green can play in the post, can hit the three, can run the floor with Rondo and Bradley, and can guard wings very well. He's still very young and has not had a full season or training camp with us. Give him a full season with Rondo, KG, and Doc and you will see his full potential. Rondo made Bass look like an all-star, he can make Green look like a hall of famer.

Bass had a skill set that fit into the Celtics plan.  He could hit the open mid range shot.


Green is not an outside shooter.  (.337)

Green also fits into the Celtics plan in that they HAVE to have bigger, more athletic wings if they want a chance to beat Miami.  Green's career shooting average is 44% and would be better than that if he stopped taking 3s, which he isn't any good at.  Green is also a much better rebounder for a small forward than Bass is for a power forward.

Mike

The teams that gave Miami the most trouble were the teams that were bigger then Miami.  Not the teams that tried to match their athletes.


The Celtics are not going to match up with there athletes. 


KG's size (on the court vs, off the court) was the biggest difference.  That's the direction the Celtics should look. 

LeBron averaged more points and rebounds and shot the ball better against the Celtics than any other team in this past playoffs, and the physical gap between LeBron and Pierce is only going to get wider next season.

Mike

Exactly. If anyone expects Pierce and Pietrus to guard Lebron next year than we may as well quit now. Green and Bradley would go a long way in defending Lebron and Wade.

[wdleehi]

Green can play in the post, can hit the three, can run the floor with Rondo and Bradley, and can guard wings very well. He's still very young and has not had a full season or training camp with us. Give him a full season with Rondo, KG, and Doc and you will see his full potential. Rondo made Bass look like an all-star, he can make Green look like a hall of famer.

Bass had a skill set that fit into the Celtics plan.  He could hit the open mid range shot.


Green is not an outside shooter.  (.337)

Green also fits into the Celtics plan in that they HAVE to have bigger, more athletic wings if they want a chance to beat Miami.  Green's career shooting average is 44% and would be better than that if he stopped taking 3s, which he isn't any good at.  Green is also a much better rebounder for a small forward than Bass is for a power forward.

Mike

The teams that gave Miami the most trouble were the teams that were bigger then Miami.  Not the teams that tried to match their athletes.


The Celtics are not going to match up with there athletes. 


KG's size (on the court vs, off the court) was the biggest difference.  That's the direction the Celtics should look. 

LeBron averaged more points and rebounds and shot the ball better against the Celtics than any other team in this past playoffs, and the physical gap between LeBron and Pierce is only going to get wider next season.

Mike

Lebron got numbers, but his team had a harder time getting by.  


The Thunder is the team that probably can best match athleticism with the Heat, lasted 5 games.  The only game they beat the Heat was when they came in rested and the Heat played the Celtics two nights earlier.  

[theswitch]

Green can play in the post, can hit the three, can run the floor with Rondo and Bradley, and can guard wings very well. He's still very young and has not had a full season or training camp with us. Give him a full season with Rondo, KG, and Doc and you will see his full potential. Rondo made Bass look like an all-star, he can make Green look like a hall of famer.

Bass had a skill set that fit into the Celtics plan.  He could hit the open mid range shot.


Green is not an outside shooter.  (.337)

Green also fits into the Celtics plan in that they HAVE to have bigger, more athletic wings if they want a chance to beat Miami.  Green's career shooting average is 44% and would be better than that if he stopped taking 3s, which he isn't any good at.  Green is also a much better rebounder for a small forward than Bass is for a power forward.

Mike

The teams that gave Miami the most trouble were the teams that were bigger then Miami.  Not the teams that tried to match their athletes.


The Celtics are not going to match up with there athletes. 


KG's size (on the court vs, off the court) was the biggest difference.  That's the direction the Celtics should look. 

I think that's the direction Danny wants to go, though. If you trot out a lineup with Green, Sullinger and KG at the 3, 4 and 5, you've got serious size. A team like Miami just can't cover three post threats like that if all three can also make the open shot.

[get_banners]

i see no way green gets near $9m, which was in the range of what he was going to get pre-heart condition. i also see no way he signs a very long-term deal...max of 2 years, as he wants to prove he's back so he can get a bigger contract. my guess is a 1/7 or 2/12 deal could happen. i'd be okay with that, as i do think he can be much better than he showed with us after the trade.

[cman88]

I dont want Pierce exhausting himself having to defend Joe Johnson, Igoudala, Lebron(or maybe even deng next year) again leading to him faltering on the offensive end.

theres alot of good wings in this league nowadays and lets be honest,danny sees that....not to mention we need to cut down Pierce's minutes in the regular season..we NEED a 25year old wing player

Pietrus is good, but offensively he's a spot up 3 point shooter. Green has a more diversified skillset. He can post up smaller SF's or drive by slower PF's

the Celtics have a history of taking so-so defenders and turning them into at least decent ones, so im not worried about that at all.

whether you like it or not, I think Green is coming back next year...its a need for this team.

[MBunge]

Green can play in the post, can hit the three, can run the floor with Rondo and Bradley, and can guard wings very well. He's still very young and has not had a full season or training camp with us. Give him a full season with Rondo, KG, and Doc and you will see his full potential. Rondo made Bass look like an all-star, he can make Green look like a hall of famer.

Bass had a skill set that fit into the Celtics plan.  He could hit the open mid range shot.


Green is not an outside shooter.  (.337)

Green also fits into the Celtics plan in that they HAVE to have bigger, more athletic wings if they want a chance to beat Miami.  Green's career shooting average is 44% and would be better than that if he stopped taking 3s, which he isn't any good at.  Green is also a much better rebounder for a small forward than Bass is for a power forward.

Mike

The teams that gave Miami the most trouble were the teams that were bigger then Miami.  Not the teams that tried to match their athletes.


The Celtics are not going to match up with there athletes. 


KG's size (on the court vs, off the court) was the biggest difference.  That's the direction the Celtics should look. 

LeBron averaged more points and rebounds and shot the ball better against the Celtics than any other team in this past playoffs, and the physical gap between LeBron and Pierce is only going to get wider next season.

Mike

Lebron got numbers, but his team had a harder time getting by.  


The Thunder is the team that probably can best match athleticism with the Heat, lasted 5 games.  The only game they beat the Heat was when they came in rested and the Heat played the Celtics two nights earlier.  

I'm not sure I understand your logic.  As tough as Boston played Miami, we probably would have won if we'd done a better job limiting LeBron.  This isn't about overall athleticism.  It's about one particular match up and, frankly, Green is probably better against LeBron than anyone on the Thunder's roster.  Sefolosha?  Too small.  Harden?  Too small.  Durant?  Too weak.  Ibaka?  Too slow.  Pietrus is actually a better match up with LeBron than anyone on OKC's roster.

Mike

[AshyLarry]

Green can play in the post, can hit the three, can run the floor with Rondo and Bradley, and can guard wings very well. He's still very young and has not had a full season or training camp with us. Give him a full season with Rondo, KG, and Doc and you will see his full potential. Rondo made Bass look like an all-star, he can make Green look like a hall of famer.

Bass had a skill set that fit into the Celtics plan.  He could hit the open mid range shot.


Green is not an outside shooter.  (.337)

Green also fits into the Celtics plan in that they HAVE to have bigger, more athletic wings if they want a chance to beat Miami.  Green's career shooting average is 44% and would be better than that if he stopped taking 3s, which he isn't any good at.  Green is also a much better rebounder for a small forward than Bass is for a power forward.

Mike

The teams that gave Miami the most trouble were the teams that were bigger then Miami.  Not the teams that tried to match their athletes.


The Celtics are not going to match up with there athletes. 


KG's size (on the court vs, off the court) was the biggest difference.  That's the direction the Celtics should look. 

I think that's the direction Danny wants to go, though. If you trot out a lineup with Green, Sullinger and KG at the 3, 4 and 5, you've got serious size. A team like Miami just can't cover three post threats like that if all three can also make the open shot.

Truth. And there's nothing wrong with adding athletic defenders on the backcourt/wings, to go with size on the frontcourt. We'll kill em down low. But we need athleticism to slow them down.

[wdleehi]

Green can play in the post, can hit the three, can run the floor with Rondo and Bradley, and can guard wings very well. He's still very young and has not had a full season or training camp with us. Give him a full season with Rondo, KG, and Doc and you will see his full potential. Rondo made Bass look like an all-star, he can make Green look like a hall of famer.

Bass had a skill set that fit into the Celtics plan.  He could hit the open mid range shot.


Green is not an outside shooter.  (.337)

Green also fits into the Celtics plan in that they HAVE to have bigger, more athletic wings if they want a chance to beat Miami.  Green's career shooting average is 44% and would be better than that if he stopped taking 3s, which he isn't any good at.  Green is also a much better rebounder for a small forward than Bass is for a power forward.

Mike

The teams that gave Miami the most trouble were the teams that were bigger then Miami.  Not the teams that tried to match their athletes.


The Celtics are not going to match up with there athletes. 


KG's size (on the court vs, off the court) was the biggest difference.  That's the direction the Celtics should look. 

LeBron averaged more points and rebounds and shot the ball better against the Celtics than any other team in this past playoffs, and the physical gap between LeBron and Pierce is only going to get wider next season.

Mike

Lebron got numbers, but his team had a harder time getting by.  


The Thunder is the team that probably can best match athleticism with the Heat, lasted 5 games.  The only game they beat the Heat was when they came in rested and the Heat played the Celtics two nights earlier.  

I'm not sure I understand your logic.  As tough as Boston played Miami, we probably would have won if we'd done a better job limiting LeBron.  This isn't about overall athleticism.  It's about one particular match up and, frankly, Green is probably better against LeBron than anyone on the Thunder's roster.  Sefolosha?  Too small.  Harden?  Too small.  Durant?  Too weak.  Ibaka?  Too slow.  Pietrus is actually a better match up with LeBron than anyone on OKC's roster.

Mike

The logic is no one is stopping lebron.  No one was slowing him down.  Why put so much effort into it?


The Celtics had a better game plan.  They tried to take out Wade (imagine how much better they could do that with a healthy Bradley, Pietrus and Ray)


They attacked the inside with KG. 


They need someone they know (and rookies are unknown answers) can step in and be that big man. 



I rather they sign Ray, let Green walk if he is getting more then 5 million a year.  Resign the combination of Pietrus and Daniels to be the 4th and 5th swingman.  Use the MLE (as much as they can get) to get another PF/C that can hurt the Heat inside. 

[saltlover]

I like Green and want him back, but my number 1 priority is getting a real center to slide KG back over to the 4.  Melo might be something down the line, but not this year.  DA said as much with a comment that he expected only 1 of the draft picks to contribute this year, and I can't imagine he meant anyone other than Sullinger with that comment.

I hope we go strong after Hibbert, who happens to have been Green's classmate at Georgetown, and shares the same agent (who DA seems to have a solid relationship with.) Maybe give Green a 1-year deal to prove he's healthy to earn a big contract in 2013 (hopefully from us, maybe from elsewhere.)

[kozlodoev]

I like Green and want him back, but my number 1 priority is getting a real center to slide KG back over to the 4.  Melo might be something down the line, but not this year.  DA said as much with a comment that he expected only 1 of the draft picks to contribute this year, and I can't imagine he meant anyone other than Sullinger with that comment.

I hope we go strong after Hibbert, who happens to have been Green's classmate at Georgetown, and shares the same agent (who DA seems to have a solid relationship with.) Maybe give Green a 1-year deal to prove he's healthy to earn a big contract in 2013 (hopefully from us, maybe from elsewhere.)

KG is not playing PF. That ship sailed midseason last year.

[AshyLarry]

I like Green and want him back, but my number 1 priority is getting a real center to slide KG back over to the 4.  Melo might be something down the line, but not this year.  DA said as much with a comment that he expected only 1 of the draft picks to contribute this year, and I can't imagine he meant anyone other than Sullinger with that comment.

I hope we go strong after Hibbert, who happens to have been Green's classmate at Georgetown, and shares the same agent (who DA seems to have a solid relationship with.) Maybe give Green a 1-year deal to prove he's healthy to earn a big contract in 2013 (hopefully from us, maybe from elsewhere.)

KG is not playing PF. That ship sailed midseason last year.

I'm not so sure. Garnett has expressed repeatedly that he hates playing the 5 and prefers the 4. I want him to play the 5. Anyone who payed attention to the celtics last season wants him at the 5. Doc wants him at the 5. But will he play the 5? Only time will tell.