Rockets trade Buddinger toT-Wolves for the18th pick

[Yoki_IsTheName]

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Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress

Sources say Houston has an offer of Lowry, the #14 and #16 picks for Tyreke Evans and the #5 pick on the table. Up to Sacramento to decide.

If I am Sacramento I do that deal.  Maybe ask for a second rounder on top.

You beat me to it. I think that's a solid deal for SacTown.

[jgod213]

Yeah you'd have to think Sac could do better than that.  Why don't you think Lowry would fit with Demarcus though?

I'd run the offense through DMC like C-Webb's Kings. While Lowry's shot has improved, it's still a little inconsistent. I'm not saying it couldn't work, but I don't think you're going to get the best out of Lowry when pairing him with Cousins. And because of that, it doesn't make sense trading that much for him.

How much does that injury/recovery play into those numbers, though?

Before he went down in march, he was absolutely beasting - particularly the month of February where he averaged 47% from the field, 43% from 3, and had a 17/7/4 line in 15 games.

He came back in april and put up some pretty sour numbers.  He also had to deal with a new dynamic in the backcourt with Dragic playing so well.

Before the injury he was playing like a top 10 point guard.  

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Yeah you'd have to think Sac could do better than that.  Why don't you think Lowry would fit with Demarcus though?

I'd run the offense through DMC like C-Webb's Kings. While Lowry's shot has improved, it's still a little inconsistent. I'm not saying it couldn't work, but I don't think you're going to get the best out of Lowry when pairing him with Cousins. And because of that, it doesn't make sense trading that much for him.

How much does that injury/recovery play into those numbers, though?

Before he went down in march, he was absolutely beasting - particularly the month of February where he averaged 47% from the field, 43% from 3, and had a 17/7/4 line in 15 games.

He came back in april and put up some pretty sour numbers.  He also had to deal with a new dynamic in the backcourt with Dragic playing so well.

Before the injury he was playing like a top 10 point guard.  

It's tough to say how much of that was recovery. I think it's certainly a valid point, but he's yet to put up those kind of numbers for the duration of a season. While I think he's capable of doing that, I'm not giving up yuge assets like Evans (who I'm sure still has some value, even though he stinks) and a 5th to acquire him, especially when I don't feel like I'm getting the most out of him

[jgod213]

Yeah you'd have to think Sac could do better than that.  Why don't you think Lowry would fit with Demarcus though?

I'd run the offense through DMC like C-Webb's Kings. While Lowry's shot has improved, it's still a little inconsistent. I'm not saying it couldn't work, but I don't think you're going to get the best out of Lowry when pairing him with Cousins. And because of that, it doesn't make sense trading that much for him.

How much does that injury/recovery play into those numbers, though?

Before he went down in march, he was absolutely beasting - particularly the month of February where he averaged 47% from the field, 43% from 3, and had a 17/7/4 line in 15 games.

He came back in april and put up some pretty sour numbers.  He also had to deal with a new dynamic in the backcourt with Dragic playing so well.

Before the injury he was playing like a top 10 point guard.  

It's tough to say how much of that was recovery. I think it's certainly a valid point, but he's yet to put up those kind of numbers for the duration of a season. While I think he's capable of doing that, I'm not giving up yuge assets like Evans (who I'm sure still has some value, even though he stinks) and a 5th to acquire him, especially when I don't feel like I'm getting the most out of him

I feel dirty for saying this since the kid is only 22, but where is Evans in respect to his ceiling as a player? I can't comment on his progression as a teammate and a leader, but his numbers have regressed over the past two years.  What an enigma that kid is.

[pearljammer10]

Rockets loading up... If im the rockets I package 14 and 16 to sacto for number 5. and lowry and the 18 to the bobcats for the number 2. then turn around an offer 2 and 5 to orlando along with a couple pieces and see if they can get howard.

I think its more likely they end up with smith, especially if they can dangle a 2nd or 5th pick for him. Rockets are in a good position to make a couple nice moves this offseason.

[indeedproceed]

Yeah you'd have to think Sac could do better than that.  Why don't you think Lowry would fit with Demarcus though?

I'd run the offense through DMC like C-Webb's Kings. While Lowry's shot has improved, it's still a little inconsistent. I'm not saying it couldn't work, but I don't think you're going to get the best out of Lowry when pairing him with Cousins. And because of that, it doesn't make sense trading that much for him.

Lowry's usage rates are pretty close mirrors of Mike Bibby's, and DMC isn't anywhere near the player Chris Webber was. You dreamin, cuz.  

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I feel dirty for saying this since the kid is only 22, but where is Evans in respect to his ceiling as a player? I can't comment on his progression as a teammate and a leader, but his numbers have regressed over the past two years.  What an enigma that kid is.

Clearly, I'm a big DMC guy so I'll admit to having some bias. But I think Evans is a horrific teammate and leader who consistently makes some truly terrible decisions on the court. He's terribly selfish, and really doesn't defer well. I've said it before, but in my eyes he's a less talented version of Monta Ellis.

[StartOrien]

Yeah you'd have to think Sac could do better than that.  Why don't you think Lowry would fit with Demarcus though?

I'd run the offense through DMC like C-Webb's Kings. While Lowry's shot has improved, it's still a little inconsistent. I'm not saying it couldn't work, but I don't think you're going to get the best out of Lowry when pairing him with Cousins. And because of that, it doesn't make sense trading that much for him.

Lowry's usage rates are pretty close mirrors of Mike Bibby's, and DMC isn't anywhere near the player Chris Webber was. You dreamin, cuz.  

We'll see about DMC. The Kings are a horrifically assembled team that seem to do their best to get the least out of Cousins possible. I'm convinced he's a guy you can absolutely build around, but he needs some - heck, ANY - players that are willing to defer to him.

[indeedproceed]

I feel dirty for saying this since the kid is only 22, but where is Evans in respect to his ceiling as a player? I can't comment on his progression as a teammate and a leader, but his numbers have regressed over the past two years.  What an enigma that kid is.

Clearly, I'm a big DMC guy so I'll admit to having some bias. But I think Evans is a horrific teammate and leader who consistently makes some truly terrible decisions on the court. He's terribly selfish, and really doesn't defer well. I've said it before, but in my eyes he's a less talented version of Monta Ellis.

Where does he find the time to do all that between his demanding duty clubbing baby seals, and his obligations to slap babies when their parents aren't looking and then passive aggressively commenting how "his kids don't cry like that?"

[D Dub]

holy SF logjam...

Beasley, Wes Johnson, Ellington, Martel Webster... now Budinger?

[indeedproceed]

holy SF logjam...

Beasley, Wes Johnson, Ellington, Martel Webster... now Budinger?

Wes Johnson and Budinger are the only legit SF's there though, and I highly doubt Beasley is long for the T-Wolves. He's out the door.

[Yogi]

This trade could potentially have a lot to do with the Celtics.  Royce White is from Minnesota, and has expressed great desire to play for the timberwolves.  There was good speculation that the promise he received was in fact from Minnesota with the 18th pick.  However, it is unclear if the Rockets would pick White because they have Scola, Morris and Patterson who are of similar body types.  
Furthermore because the Rockets and Celtics have been tied together in rumors they now have more possibilities to deal.  The Celtics can probably package the 22nd and second rounder to move up to 18 if Houston's plan of landing a big name by trading their collection of assets fails.  Or they may wish to collect the two first rounders the Celtics have and be willing to part with something.  

[StartOrien]

holy SF logjam...

Beasley, Wes Johnson, Ellington, Martel Webster... now Budinger?

Wes Johnson and Budinger are the only legit SF's there though, and I highly doubt Beasley is long for the T-Wolves. He's out the door.

And Wes Johnson is turrible

[bbd24]

I feel dirty for saying this since the kid is only 22, but where is Evans in respect to his ceiling as a player? I can't comment on his progression as a teammate and a leader, but his numbers have regressed over the past two years.  What an enigma that kid is.

Clearly, I'm a big DMC guy so I'll admit to having some bias. But I think Evans is a horrific teammate and leader who consistently makes some truly terrible decisions on the court. He's terribly selfish, and really doesn't defer well. I've said it before, but in my eyes he's a less talented version of Monta Ellis.

Being in the bay area, I look at the situation he's in and I can't say that about Evans.  What happens with Evans game if he's on a team like say, the Celtics ?

Tyreke has yet to be actually coached in that organization. If he had a coach like say Doc Rivers, I think you'd be talking differently in regards to his game.  Extremely talented kid and has a ton of room still to learn and grow.  Hasn't even touched his ceiling as a player.

Evans needs a better situation.  I'd give up both first rounders to get him if Sac would do it.  All star level talent and would be a perfect fit to put around and compliment Rondo, Bradley, Green, & Bass.

[StartOrien]

Being in the bay area, I look at the situation he's in and I can't say that about Evans.  What happens with Evans game if he's on a team like say, the Celtics ?

The fact that he is or is not a Celtic has no impact on my opinion of Tyreke Evans. The fact that he consistently ignores an extremely talented, and willing passer in DeMarcus Cousins does.