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Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2012, 08:33:25 PM »

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What I think happened to Skip was the exact same thing that happened to Lebron last year. Thought it would be easier, was unprepared, and wilted.

These are the things I wish he'd said to expose Cuban.

Really? Lebron doesn't care what the media says or thinks? So were you in a cave during that whole "Decision" thing or do you think he was just having fun or something? How about that part where he predicted 7 championships? How about that Nike commercial where he looks straight at the camera and says "What should I do?" Really? He really doesn't care what we say?

How do you know this isn't just PR...?
Everybody talked about the decision and his bold prediction made sure people would keep talking about him. and what people say in commercials should be taken with a grain of salt...

Ok. So you're plan was to have him pass the ball to Steve Kerr. So you wanted wide open shots for the best three point shooter in NBA history? That was your plan?

Yes, except that the heat don't have kerr or anyone comparable on their roster...
That's the whole point of doing it that way.

You tell me that it's a team game and all you've done is talk about Lebron. Do you know who his other teammates are? Please tell me how you planned to make D Wade into Steve Kerr.

He talks about Lebron because this is what the series gets reduced to and because skip refuses to give the mavs some of the credit for lebron's disappearing act...
Cuban obviously knows who lebron's teammates are.
And why would cuban want to make wade into steve kerr? like lebron, wade is the type of guy you want pulling up for the three rather than driving...

You made him a jump shooter? And just nobody else managed to do this and neither did you till the 4th quarter. Ok. How do you think that would have worked with Jordan? Do you think you could have turned Jordan into a jump shooter? Would Jordan have stayed on the perimeter?

Yes they did. they gave him different looks which makes it harder to quickly react and make the right decision. other teams have succeeded in making him a jump shooter as well (see a team called the boston celtics...) jordan would have simply gone into the mid-range game where he is so much better than lebron that he is on another measuring scale

Ok. You can't say who wanted it more. So you can't say Dirk wanted it more than Lebron. Is that what you are saying?

Hard to say... I don't see how you can ever be sure about this

Do I really have to explain to you what "excruciating pressure" is?  Just another game or something?

They can only put the pressure on themselves (which if lebron cares about the media he actually did)
however i don't see how they're supposed to be in more pressure than say the celtics were in ecf... they were on their possibly last run, miami's gonna get couple more chances.
So what does it mean if only the heat can claim to be under that type of pressure?

Miami was just better prepared to play than OKC? For 4 games in a row they prepared better?

Why not? Did you see them do adjustments on the issues cuban mentioned?

Ok. So you have access to OKCs playbook now? OKC just isn't smart enough to do what you did? They saw what worked and just decided not to use it? So you don't want to give credit to Lebron? It's all just a matter of defense? Which especially works in the 4th quarter.


cuban doesn't have access to okc's playbook, but he described what he saw and why it didn't work...
okc doesn't have the same players as the mavs, hence they can't just copy what worked for someone else.
obviously lebron played terrific. but obviously the mavs did something right too. and yes quite frankly, knowing that lebron is a below average perimeter shooter and has some struggles finishing games strong (maybe for lack of confidence or fear of failure) it may just be more effective in the 4th. you give him different looks and make sure he can't just intuitively make the right play and get comfortable and he might struggle at the end of a close game mulling over every decision even more as the impact of the play seems magnified now...

Skip could've at least come up with decent answers on some simple questions cuban asked him...
but maybe the excruciating pressure caused him to wilt (which of course had nothing to do with cuban though...)
« Last Edit: June 23, 2012, 08:38:58 PM by 4THQTR »

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2012, 08:37:55 PM »

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What I think happened to Skip was the exact same thing that happened to Lebron last year. Thought it would be easier, was unprepared, and wilted.

These are the things I wish he'd said to expose Cuban.

Really? Lebron doesn't care what the media says or thinks? So were you in a cave during that whole "Decision" thing or do you think he was just having fun or something? How about that part where he predicted 7 championships? How about that Nike commercial where he looks straight at the camera and says "What should I do?" Really? He really doesn't care what we say?

How do you know this isn't just PR...?
Everybody talked about the decision and his bold prediction made sure people would keep talking about him. and what people say in commercials should be taken with a grain of salt...

Ok. So you're plan was to have him pass the ball to Steve Kerr. So you wanted wide open shots for the best three point shooter in NBA history? That was your plan?

Yes, except that the heat don't have kerr or anyone comparable on their roster...
That's the whole point of doing it that way.

You tell me that it's a team game and all you've done is talk about Lebron. Do you know who his other teammates are? Please tell me how you planned to make D Wade into Steve Kerr.

He talks about Lebron because this is what the series gets reduced to and because skip refuses to give the mavs some of the credit for lebron's disappearing act...
Cuban obviously knows who lebron's teammates are.
And why would cuban want to make wade into steve kerr? like lebron, wade is the type of guy you want pulling up for the three rather than driving...

You made him a jump shooter? And just nobody else managed to do this and neither did you till the 4th quarter. Ok. How do you think that would have worked with Jordan? Do you think you could have turned Jordan into a jump shooter? Would Jordan have stayed on the perimeter?

Yes they did. they gave him different looks which makes it harder to quickly react and make the right decision. other teams have succeeded in making him a jump shooter as well (see a team called the boston celtics...) jordan would have simply gone into the mid-range game where he is so much better than lebron that he is on another measuring scale

Ok. You can't say who wanted it more. So you can't say Dirk wanted it more than Lebron. Is that what you are saying?

Hard to say... I don't see how you can ever be sure about this

Do I really have to explain to you what "excruciating pressure" is?  Just another game or something?

They can only put the pressure on themselves (which if lebron cares about the media he actually did)
however i don't see how they're supposed to be in more pressure than say the celtics were in ecf... they were on their possibly last run, miami's gonna get couple more chances.
So what does it mean if only the heat can claim to be under that type of pressure?

Miami was just better prepared to play than OKC? For 4 games in a row they prepared better?

Why not? Did you see them do adjustments on the issues cuban mentioned?

Ok. So you have access to OKCs playbook now? OKC just isn't smart enough to do what you did? They saw what worked and just decided not to use it? So you don't want to give credit to Lebron? It's all just a matter of defense? Which especially works in the 4th quarter.


cuban doesn't have access to okc's playbook, but he described what he saw and why it didn't work...
okc doesn't have the same players as the mavs, hence they can't just copy what worked for someone else.
obviously lebron played terrific. but obviously the mavs did something right too. and yes quite frankly, knowing that lebron is a below average perimeter shooter and has some struggles finishing games strong (maybe for lack of confidence or fear of failure) it may just be more effective in the 4th. you give him different looks and make sure he can't just intuitively make the right play and get comfortable and he might struggle at the end of a close game mulling over every decision even more as the impact of the play seems magnified now...

Skip could've at least come up with decent answers on some simple questions cuban asked him...
but maybe the excuciating pressure caused him to wilt (which had nothing to do with cuban though...)
Oh I totally think Cuban prepared better cause he wanted it more causing Skip to wilt.  I assume Cuban would tell me that's ridiculous.

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #62 on: June 23, 2012, 08:43:46 PM »

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What I think happened to Skip was the exact same thing that happened to Lebron last year. Thought it would be easier, was unprepared, and wilted.

These are the things I wish he'd said to expose Cuban.

Really? Lebron doesn't care what the media says or thinks? So were you in a cave during that whole "Decision" thing or do you think he was just having fun or something? How about that part where he predicted 7 championships? How about that Nike commercial where he looks straight at the camera and says "What should I do?" Really? He really doesn't care what we say?

How do you know this isn't just PR...?
Everybody talked about the decision and his bold prediction made sure people would keep talking about him. and what people say in commercials should be taken with a grain of salt...

Ok. So you're plan was to have him pass the ball to Steve Kerr. So you wanted wide open shots for the best three point shooter in NBA history? That was your plan?

Yes, except that the heat don't have kerr or anyone comparable on their roster...
That's the whole point of doing it that way.

You tell me that it's a team game and all you've done is talk about Lebron. Do you know who his other teammates are? Please tell me how you planned to make D Wade into Steve Kerr.

He talks about Lebron because this is what the series gets reduced to and because skip refuses to give the mavs some of the credit for lebron's disappearing act...
Cuban obviously knows who lebron's teammates are.
And why would cuban want to make wade into steve kerr? like lebron, wade is the type of guy you want pulling up for the three rather than driving...

You made him a jump shooter? And just nobody else managed to do this and neither did you till the 4th quarter. Ok. How do you think that would have worked with Jordan? Do you think you could have turned Jordan into a jump shooter? Would Jordan have stayed on the perimeter?

Yes they did. they gave him different looks which makes it harder to quickly react and make the right decision. other teams have succeeded in making him a jump shooter as well (see a team called the boston celtics...) jordan would have simply gone into the mid-range game where he is so much better than lebron that he is on another measuring scale

Ok. You can't say who wanted it more. So you can't say Dirk wanted it more than Lebron. Is that what you are saying?

Hard to say... I don't see how you can ever be sure about this

Do I really have to explain to you what "excruciating pressure" is?  Just another game or something?

They can only put the pressure on themselves (which if lebron cares about the media he actually did)
however i don't see how they're supposed to be in more pressure than say the celtics were in ecf... they were on their possibly last run, miami's gonna get couple more chances.
So what does it mean if only the heat can claim to be under that type of pressure?

Miami was just better prepared to play than OKC? For 4 games in a row they prepared better?

Why not? Did you see them do adjustments on the issues cuban mentioned?

Ok. So you have access to OKCs playbook now? OKC just isn't smart enough to do what you did? They saw what worked and just decided not to use it? So you don't want to give credit to Lebron? It's all just a matter of defense? Which especially works in the 4th quarter.


cuban doesn't have access to okc's playbook, but he described what he saw and why it didn't work...
okc doesn't have the same players as the mavs, hence they can't just copy what worked for someone else.
obviously lebron played terrific. but obviously the mavs did something right too. and yes quite frankly, knowing that lebron is a below average perimeter shooter and has some struggles finishing games strong (maybe for lack of confidence or fear of failure) it may just be more effective in the 4th. you give him different looks and make sure he can't just intuitively make the right play and get comfortable and he might struggle at the end of a close game mulling over every decision even more as the impact of the play seems magnified now...

Skip could've at least come up with decent answers on some simple questions cuban asked him...
but maybe the excuciating pressure caused him to wilt (which had nothing to do with cuban though...)
Oh I totally think Cuban prepared better cause he wanted it more causing Skip to wilt.  I assume Cuban would tell me that's ridiculous.


i think cuban would agree that he was better prepared.
his whole point was that espn's guys are lazy and don't prepare
what he took issue with was that guys love to say "they wanted it more" as in they simply played harder during the game.
i don't think he has an issue if you say that guys like kg or kobe are better because they work every day to get better and in this sense want it more than other players.
but i do agree with him that an analyst explaining a win with " one team wanted it more" or "one team played harder" is simply unprofessional and lazy unless it's backed by facts

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #63 on: June 23, 2012, 09:29:09 PM »

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What I think happened to Skip was the exact same thing that happened to Lebron last year. Thought it would be easier, was unprepared, and wilted.

These are the things I wish he'd said to expose Cuban.

Really? Lebron doesn't care what the media says or thinks? So were you in a cave during that whole "Decision" thing or do you think he was just having fun or something? How about that part where he predicted 7 championships? How about that Nike commercial where he looks straight at the camera and says "What should I do?" Really? He really doesn't care what we say?

How do you know this isn't just PR...?
Everybody talked about the decision and his bold prediction made sure people would keep talking about him. and what people say in commercials should be taken with a grain of salt...

Ok. So you're plan was to have him pass the ball to Steve Kerr. So you wanted wide open shots for the best three point shooter in NBA history? That was your plan?

Yes, except that the heat don't have kerr or anyone comparable on their roster...
That's the whole point of doing it that way.

You tell me that it's a team game and all you've done is talk about Lebron. Do you know who his other teammates are? Please tell me how you planned to make D Wade into Steve Kerr.

He talks about Lebron because this is what the series gets reduced to and because skip refuses to give the mavs some of the credit for lebron's disappearing act...
Cuban obviously knows who lebron's teammates are.
And why would cuban want to make wade into steve kerr? like lebron, wade is the type of guy you want pulling up for the three rather than driving...

You made him a jump shooter? And just nobody else managed to do this and neither did you till the 4th quarter. Ok. How do you think that would have worked with Jordan? Do you think you could have turned Jordan into a jump shooter? Would Jordan have stayed on the perimeter?

Yes they did. they gave him different looks which makes it harder to quickly react and make the right decision. other teams have succeeded in making him a jump shooter as well (see a team called the boston celtics...) jordan would have simply gone into the mid-range game where he is so much better than lebron that he is on another measuring scale

Ok. You can't say who wanted it more. So you can't say Dirk wanted it more than Lebron. Is that what you are saying?

Hard to say... I don't see how you can ever be sure about this

Do I really have to explain to you what "excruciating pressure" is?  Just another game or something?

They can only put the pressure on themselves (which if lebron cares about the media he actually did)
however i don't see how they're supposed to be in more pressure than say the celtics were in ecf... they were on their possibly last run, miami's gonna get couple more chances.
So what does it mean if only the heat can claim to be under that type of pressure?

Miami was just better prepared to play than OKC? For 4 games in a row they prepared better?

Why not? Did you see them do adjustments on the issues cuban mentioned?

Ok. So you have access to OKCs playbook now? OKC just isn't smart enough to do what you did? They saw what worked and just decided not to use it? So you don't want to give credit to Lebron? It's all just a matter of defense? Which especially works in the 4th quarter.


cuban doesn't have access to okc's playbook, but he described what he saw and why it didn't work...
okc doesn't have the same players as the mavs, hence they can't just copy what worked for someone else.
obviously lebron played terrific. but obviously the mavs did something right too. and yes quite frankly, knowing that lebron is a below average perimeter shooter and has some struggles finishing games strong (maybe for lack of confidence or fear of failure) it may just be more effective in the 4th. you give him different looks and make sure he can't just intuitively make the right play and get comfortable and he might struggle at the end of a close game mulling over every decision even more as the impact of the play seems magnified now...

Skip could've at least come up with decent answers on some simple questions cuban asked him...
but maybe the excuciating pressure caused him to wilt (which had nothing to do with cuban though...)
Oh I totally think Cuban prepared better cause he wanted it more causing Skip to wilt.  I assume Cuban would tell me that's ridiculous.

1. Please address everything he said if you're going to rebuttal.

2. What did Cuban want more?

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2012, 09:32:42 PM »

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Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #65 on: June 24, 2012, 07:18:31 AM »

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What I think happened to Skip was the exact same thing that happened to Lebron last year. Thought it would be easier, was unprepared, and wilted.

These are the things I wish he'd said to expose Cuban.

Really? Lebron doesn't care what the media says or thinks? So were you in a cave during that whole "Decision" thing or do you think he was just having fun or something? How about that part where he predicted 7 championships? How about that Nike commercial where he looks straight at the camera and says "What should I do?" Really? He really doesn't care what we say?

How do you know this isn't just PR...?
Everybody talked about the decision and his bold prediction made sure people would keep talking about him. and what people say in commercials should be taken with a grain of salt...

Ok. So you're plan was to have him pass the ball to Steve Kerr. So you wanted wide open shots for the best three point shooter in NBA history? That was your plan?

Yes, except that the heat don't have kerr or anyone comparable on their roster...
That's the whole point of doing it that way.

You tell me that it's a team game and all you've done is talk about Lebron. Do you know who his other teammates are? Please tell me how you planned to make D Wade into Steve Kerr.

He talks about Lebron because this is what the series gets reduced to and because skip refuses to give the mavs some of the credit for lebron's disappearing act...
Cuban obviously knows who lebron's teammates are.
And why would cuban want to make wade into steve kerr? like lebron, wade is the type of guy you want pulling up for the three rather than driving...

You made him a jump shooter? And just nobody else managed to do this and neither did you till the 4th quarter. Ok. How do you think that would have worked with Jordan? Do you think you could have turned Jordan into a jump shooter? Would Jordan have stayed on the perimeter?

Yes they did. they gave him different looks which makes it harder to quickly react and make the right decision. other teams have succeeded in making him a jump shooter as well (see a team called the boston celtics...) jordan would have simply gone into the mid-range game where he is so much better than lebron that he is on another measuring scale

Ok. You can't say who wanted it more. So you can't say Dirk wanted it more than Lebron. Is that what you are saying?

Hard to say... I don't see how you can ever be sure about this

Do I really have to explain to you what "excruciating pressure" is?  Just another game or something?

They can only put the pressure on themselves (which if lebron cares about the media he actually did)
however i don't see how they're supposed to be in more pressure than say the celtics were in ecf... they were on their possibly last run, miami's gonna get couple more chances.
So what does it mean if only the heat can claim to be under that type of pressure?

Miami was just better prepared to play than OKC? For 4 games in a row they prepared better?

Why not? Did you see them do adjustments on the issues cuban mentioned?

Ok. So you have access to OKCs playbook now? OKC just isn't smart enough to do what you did? They saw what worked and just decided not to use it? So you don't want to give credit to Lebron? It's all just a matter of defense? Which especially works in the 4th quarter.


cuban doesn't have access to okc's playbook, but he described what he saw and why it didn't work...
okc doesn't have the same players as the mavs, hence they can't just copy what worked for someone else.
obviously lebron played terrific. but obviously the mavs did something right too. and yes quite frankly, knowing that lebron is a below average perimeter shooter and has some struggles finishing games strong (maybe for lack of confidence or fear of failure) it may just be more effective in the 4th. you give him different looks and make sure he can't just intuitively make the right play and get comfortable and he might struggle at the end of a close game mulling over every decision even more as the impact of the play seems magnified now...

Skip could've at least come up with decent answers on some simple questions cuban asked him...
but maybe the excuciating pressure caused him to wilt (which had nothing to do with cuban though...)
Oh I totally think Cuban prepared better cause he wanted it more causing Skip to wilt.  I assume Cuban would tell me that's ridiculous.

1. Please address everything he said if you're going to rebuttal.

2. What did Cuban want more?
Je refuse. I think we've reached the "This is true"..."No it's not" stage

Everyone did a good job

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #66 on: June 24, 2012, 08:50:16 AM »

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What I think happened to Skip was the exact same thing that happened to Lebron last year. Thought it would be easier, was unprepared, and wilted.

These are the things I wish he'd said to expose Cuban.

Really? Lebron doesn't care what the media says or thinks? So were you in a cave during that whole "Decision" thing or do you think he was just having fun or something? How about that part where he predicted 7 championships? How about that Nike commercial where he looks straight at the camera and says "What should I do?" Really? He really doesn't care what we say?

How do you know this isn't just PR...?
Everybody talked about the decision and his bold prediction made sure people would keep talking about him. and what people say in commercials should be taken with a grain of salt...

Ok. So you're plan was to have him pass the ball to Steve Kerr. So you wanted wide open shots for the best three point shooter in NBA history? That was your plan?

Yes, except that the heat don't have kerr or anyone comparable on their roster...
That's the whole point of doing it that way.

You tell me that it's a team game and all you've done is talk about Lebron. Do you know who his other teammates are? Please tell me how you planned to make D Wade into Steve Kerr.

He talks about Lebron because this is what the series gets reduced to and because skip refuses to give the mavs some of the credit for lebron's disappearing act...
Cuban obviously knows who lebron's teammates are.
And why would cuban want to make wade into steve kerr? like lebron, wade is the type of guy you want pulling up for the three rather than driving...

You made him a jump shooter? And just nobody else managed to do this and neither did you till the 4th quarter. Ok. How do you think that would have worked with Jordan? Do you think you could have turned Jordan into a jump shooter? Would Jordan have stayed on the perimeter?

Yes they did. they gave him different looks which makes it harder to quickly react and make the right decision. other teams have succeeded in making him a jump shooter as well (see a team called the boston celtics...) jordan would have simply gone into the mid-range game where he is so much better than lebron that he is on another measuring scale

Ok. You can't say who wanted it more. So you can't say Dirk wanted it more than Lebron. Is that what you are saying?

Hard to say... I don't see how you can ever be sure about this

Do I really have to explain to you what "excruciating pressure" is?  Just another game or something?

They can only put the pressure on themselves (which if lebron cares about the media he actually did)
however i don't see how they're supposed to be in more pressure than say the celtics were in ecf... they were on their possibly last run, miami's gonna get couple more chances.
So what does it mean if only the heat can claim to be under that type of pressure?

Miami was just better prepared to play than OKC? For 4 games in a row they prepared better?

Why not? Did you see them do adjustments on the issues cuban mentioned?

Ok. So you have access to OKCs playbook now? OKC just isn't smart enough to do what you did? They saw what worked and just decided not to use it? So you don't want to give credit to Lebron? It's all just a matter of defense? Which especially works in the 4th quarter.


cuban doesn't have access to okc's playbook, but he described what he saw and why it didn't work...
okc doesn't have the same players as the mavs, hence they can't just copy what worked for someone else.
obviously lebron played terrific. but obviously the mavs did something right too. and yes quite frankly, knowing that lebron is a below average perimeter shooter and has some struggles finishing games strong (maybe for lack of confidence or fear of failure) it may just be more effective in the 4th. you give him different looks and make sure he can't just intuitively make the right play and get comfortable and he might struggle at the end of a close game mulling over every decision even more as the impact of the play seems magnified now...

Skip could've at least come up with decent answers on some simple questions cuban asked him...
but maybe the excuciating pressure caused him to wilt (which had nothing to do with cuban though...)
Oh I totally think Cuban prepared better cause he wanted it more causing Skip to wilt.  I assume Cuban would tell me that's ridiculous.

1. Please address everything he said if you're going to rebuttal.

2. What did Cuban want more?
Je refuse. I think we've reached the "This is true"..."No it's not" stage

Everyone did a good job

And....made a good effort ;D

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #67 on: June 24, 2012, 08:57:49 AM »

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I think you're right eja117. Bayless was unprepared and Cuban was on the attack, asking all the questions. To me Cuban is in love with himself and was clearly bullying someone trying to show them up. I'm not really a fan of that kind of thing.

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #68 on: June 24, 2012, 09:38:12 PM »

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http://www.asternwarning.com/201206241132/articles/nba/lebron-james-interview-on-winning-the-title.html

Personally I thought Lebron was a little full of it in this "interview" but he confirmed multiple things Skip said.

He was under pressure.

He implied he wilted when she said "Only 11 shots? That's not you" and he said "The mind is a powerful thing. It's unexplainable" not "Well they really defended me really well giving me different looks"

The media is clearly in his head. He's giving an interview like 3 days after winning and stated "I've heard em all. I thought I was a villain".

Directly compared himself to Jordan.

Didn't seem to confirm anything Cuban said

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #69 on: June 24, 2012, 09:50:21 PM »

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LeBron is egotistical that one cannot deny.  So is Bayless I think.

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #70 on: June 24, 2012, 09:53:23 PM »

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LeBron is egotistical that one cannot deny.  So is Bayless I think.
Perhaps Skip thinks he's better than he is because they keep putting him up against Stephen A Smith. I mean one can hardly blame him if you think of it that way

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #71 on: June 24, 2012, 10:44:27 PM »

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Skip Bayless won by a landslide. Why? We're talking about him and more people are going to tune in to watch him to see who "exposes him" next.

At the end of the day I'm sure that's all that matters to ESPN and probably to Skip too. I imagine he's either too delusional to believe that he's wrong or too comfortable in his role as a caricature of himself.

Big deal. Cuban might have damaged Skip's non-existent professional integrity? Jalen Rose called him a high school bench warmer and basically challenged his credibility as a journalist a few months ago. Skip was upset for a day or two, refused to believe he was in the wrong, and went about his business as usual. Same thing he'll do here.

It's sports entertainment, just like the WWE. Skip Bayless' job isn't to be informative, it's to be provocative and polarizing. He's extremely good at that. Score one for the crypt keeper.
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Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #72 on: June 24, 2012, 11:13:14 PM »

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Skip Bayless won by a landslide. Why? We're talking about him and more people are going to tune in to watch him to see who "exposes him" next.

At the end of the day I'm sure that's all that matters to ESPN and probably to Skip too. I imagine he's either too delusional to believe that he's wrong or too comfortable in his role as a caricature of himself.

Big deal. Cuban might have damaged Skip's non-existent professional integrity? Jalen Rose called him a high school bench warmer and basically challenged his credibility as a journalist a few months ago. Skip was upset for a day or two, refused to believe he was in the wrong, and went about his business as usual. Same thing he'll do here.

It's sports entertainment, just like the WWE. Skip Bayless' job isn't to be informative, it's to be provocative and polarizing. He's extremely good at that. Score one for the crypt keeper.

No, he lost. Did you see his face? I'm sure less people will watch now. Lebron winning championship is final nail in Skip's Espn career. The shenanigans is up. And I pity anyone who watches that show.

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #73 on: June 25, 2012, 12:12:32 AM »

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http://www.asternwarning.com/201206241132/articles/nba/lebron-james-interview-on-winning-the-title.html

Personally I thought Lebron was a little full of it in this "interview" but he confirmed multiple things Skip said.

He was under pressure.

He implied he wilted when she said "Only 11 shots? That's not you" and he said "The mind is a powerful thing. It's unexplainable" not "Well they really defended me really well giving me different looks"

The media is clearly in his head. He's giving an interview like 3 days after winning and stated "I've heard em all. I thought I was a villain".

Directly compared himself to Jordan.

Didn't seem to confirm anything Cuban said

Of course Lebron confirms a couple things Skip Bayless says.  Lebron is "under pressure". Tell me, who in the NBA, is not under pressure?  Lebron heard what the media says about him.  Tell me, who in the NBA, has not heard what the media says?  These are generalizations that Cuban addresses directly and deems ridiculous because they are not facts, and are not points that can be be argued.  Cuban is simply stating that if the media (which is ultimately who is he criticizing, not just Skip Bayless) is going to analyze the game of basketball, they need to use actual evidence of ingame play.

Point of the matter is, Skip Bayless uses "facts" that can't be argued, and can generally apply to anyone.  Mark Cuban just simply wants the media to use in-game basketball facts instead of emotional generalizations.

Re: Mark Cuban pwns Skip Bayless and ESPN
« Reply #74 on: June 25, 2012, 12:22:36 AM »

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Are you guys really arguing about whether or not LeBron cares what people think about him?

Of course he cares! He's got the most produced 'image' in sports, with a whole team of guys trying to market him. He's got the biggest endorsement deals in sports, and he's been sheltered and coddled his entire life. The whole deal probably makes LeBron lose sleep as much as any athlete out there.

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