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Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2012, 12:15:55 PM »

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Dominate?

Well, could someone answer me the question on whether we could've beaten them with Avery Bradley?

I'm guessing that he would've made a difference.

AB was going to be our "X-Man" vs Dwyane Wade this series. IMO, he would've made a bigger difference for us being healthy than Bosh would've in coming back for MIA.

With that being said, I don't think MIA has seen the last of BOS.

Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2012, 12:22:19 PM »

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  If Bradley was healthy we'd have won the series. If they can upgrade Bass's spot, a team that starts Rondo/KG/PP/Bradley/pf and brings Green/Wilcox/Pietrus/Dooling (for example) off the bench could clearly compete with the Heat next year.

Not if Bosh was healthy.  Bradley would have made very little difference in that series. 

  Yes, if Bosh was healthy. Bradley would have made a big impact on the series, get serious.

Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2012, 12:25:06 PM »

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Look, this Celtic team was one of the BEST FOUR
teams in the entire NBA this year. If Danny blows
this up, do not even expect to get that far for
years. If Danny keeps 2/3 of the Big 3, Rondo,
and gets Green,Wilcox,Bradley healthy we have
a chance but the bottom line is that Pat Riley
put together a SUPERTEAM. One that many talented
role players will want to play for for years.
The Heat will have no problem stacking their bench
for low cost because there are players who just want
to be a part of it.
Look at them, virtually nobody can beat that team
when Bosh is healthy and Wade gets back to 100%.
They are going to dominate the East for years.
I believe they will be a dynasty.


Dominate? You keep telling yourself that. In order to be considered a dynasty like the Lakers, Celtics, even Bulls, Spurs, you need to win multiple championships. Also, with the salaries of Wade, James and Bosh, it's going to be difficult to add quality pieces around them. Most likely, the Heat will only be able to sign players for the minimum. Good luck with that!

Teams like the Bulls, Knicks and Pacers will get better. So if I were u, I wouldn't crown them a dynasty yet.

Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2012, 12:26:26 PM »

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I tend to disagree with the original poster.  I don't think Miami has been that dominant in the playoffs this year.  Yes, they were better than us, yes they  won the east.  But they were far from dominant doing it.  We obviously had our chances and pushed them to 7.  The pacers pushed them to 6.  I just don't see them as this completely unbeatable dominating team that a lot do.

I think OKC, if they can somehow spread the cash around and keep their main 4 guys will be a lot bigger threat to be a true dynasty.  Their team is younger / more athletic and I feel has a higher ceiling.  I mean if KD and RW can get better they will be scarey.  I think the heat is  basically at their ceiling right now.  Game 6 and game 7 in the 4th quarter is about as good as they can be as far as I am concerned.  I don't think the East is set in stone for 4-5 years.  Bulls w Rose and Noah, sixers, pacers, retooled Celtics could all push the Heat just as hard next year.

I think the heat might win this year, but I think next year is going to be more difficult for them.

Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2012, 12:26:38 PM »

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Heat better than Celtics is a possibility for years. But parity seems to be a lot closer and other teams will challenge the Heat. Taking a look at the Bulls, Sixers, Atlanta. There could be other teams that are able to put it together like the Knicks. Danny can try to bring everyone back but I suspect he will not be able to. Then he will look for help in the draft. Does Ray Allen for OJ Mayo happen? Or do we put Club Kansas together by getting Drew Gooden, Nick Colison, and Mario Chalmers.
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Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2012, 12:27:33 PM »

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Look, this Celtic team was one of the BEST FOUR
teams in the entire NBA this year. If Danny blows
this up, do not even expect to get that far for
years. If Danny keeps 2/3 of the Big 3, Rondo,
and gets Green,Wilcox,Bradley healthy we have
a chance but the bottom line is that Pat Riley
put together a SUPERTEAM. One that many talented
role players will want to play for for years.
The Heat will have no problem stacking their bench
for low cost because there are players who just want
to be a part of it.
Look at them, virtually nobody can beat that team
when Bosh is healthy and Wade gets back to 100%.
They are going to dominate the East for years.
I believe they will be a dynasty.



Dominate? You keep telling yourself that. In order to be considered a dynasty like the Lakers, Celtics, even Bulls, Spurs, you need to win multiple championships. Also, with the salaries of Wade, James and Bosh, it's going to be difficult to add quality pieces around them. Most likely, the Heat will only be able to sign players for the minimum. Good luck with that!

Teams like the Bulls, Knicks and Pacers will get better. So if I were u, I wouldn't crown them a dynasty yet. It took the Heat 7 games to defeat a depleted, injured Celtics team.

 

Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2012, 12:32:28 PM »

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You never know about injuries either.  When McGrady and Hill united in Orlando, people thought big things were going to happen.  Both ended up being terribly injured and having their careers derailed. 

So you never know what could happen.  You also never know when random health problems can occur (as can be seen with Jeff Green and Chris Wilcox this year). 

Not wishing it to happen, but I certainly wouldn't put anything in stone yet. 

Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2012, 12:40:30 PM »

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This is one of the reasons that I'd love to see the Thunder beat them this year. If the Heat stays together, they probably have a six or seven year window of being top contenders.  If the NBA can escape this run with them winning four titles or less, I'll be relatively satisfied.  

Call me petty, but one of my main goals for the immediate future of the NBA is to see this Heat team win significantly less than the eight titles they promised us when they got together.  

I have no idea why many people think that. Wade, who is starting to show wear, is already 30. Plus he relies so heavy on his athleticism that the loss of quickness and explosiveness will impact his game more than others. Think Steve Francis.  James is 27, but has been logging 40MPG since he was 18. Is he going to hold up? If so, for how long? He's been lucky thus far without a significant injury, but everybody has them.

James has a strong possibility of holding up.  That body is just ridiculous.  He'll be 33 at the end of the 2013 season.  If the Heat don't win it this year, that gives them six years to go for their eight titles.  I say they get 2 or 3.  There'll be other contenders.  Everyone is not going to just lay down and hand it to them every year, but there's no reason this team shouldn't consistently be in the mix. 
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Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2012, 12:44:01 PM »

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The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does.

It's hard for me to imagine if Danny Ainge, can ever find players of Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen caliber. The Celtics, were very fortunate to have such dominate and great players in those 3. Adding three hall of fame players to your roster is hard to accomplish, but Ainge was one of not many to do so.

Danny Ainge and Celtics fans got exactly what they wanted out this run. The run was suppose to be 3yrs, 2008-2010, 11,12. Two finals appearances that should of been 3 or 4, but injuries clearly played a role. 3x ECF visits, 2x ECF titles and 5x division titles. Think about how this season started out. The Celts were 15-17 during the all-star break, then to take the Miami Heat 7 in the ECF without O'Neal, Wilcox, Green and Bradley.


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Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2012, 12:48:16 PM »

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Like someone else said, Avery Bradley...=yes, stop wade..remember a guy named Tony Allen...he stopped wade dead cold....i think he was good on lebron also....besides, if pp, ray and kg were near as young as wade and lebron....WOW....We would kill them....So there is plenty we can do toy beat the heat..they are NOT that strong.we took them to 7 with an older team, without much good consistant scoring.....

Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2012, 01:11:09 PM »

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  If Bradley was healthy we'd have won the series. If they can upgrade Bass's spot, a team that starts Rondo/KG/PP/Bradley/pf and brings Green/Wilcox/Pietrus/Dooling (for example) off the bench could clearly compete with the Heat next year.

Not if Bosh was healthy.  Bradley would have made very little difference in that series.  

  Yes, if Bosh was healthy. Bradley would have made a big impact on the series, get serious.

Yup we simply ran out of gas, all the games we were winning post All Star break having just enough to close things out in close grind it out 4th quarter games at this point we didn't have anything left in the tank to do that. You can blame the lockout schedule for that but not just that it's injuries. Who knows what could have had happened had Bradley been able to defend Wade and run with Rondo (gave them hell in the season), Green able to run with Rondo, JO able to give something in place of Steimsma or Hollins. This group isn't done like folks are making it seem, if we just had some healthy bodies to stay fresh through the course of a season which looks like next year we will in Green/Bradley and some help e.g a legit big call me crazy but we can still contend next year and even come out the east.

The fact that we made it this far with all our season ending injuries to a game seven just a game away from the Finals, in a compressed lockout schedule at that should tell you we aren't that far behind left in the dust like some seem to think.
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Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2012, 01:24:35 PM »

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  If Bradley was healthy we'd have won the series. If they can upgrade Bass's spot, a team that starts Rondo/KG/PP/Bradley/pf and brings Green/Wilcox/Pietrus/Dooling (for example) off the bench could clearly compete with the Heat next year.

Not if Bosh was healthy.  Bradley would have made very little difference in that series. 

huh? ??? you serious??    i mean really ???

Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2012, 01:44:56 PM »

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Unless my vision fooled me I thought we gave Miami a tough go of it. I don't see them as a decade team yet. In fact and I know this gets old but nevertheless it's a fact we got screwed out of game 2. The Heat never should have made it to the Finals. If you call a League made Team the team for years I have objections to that with fact to back it up. If you did watch game 2 and come to the conclusion Miami won you are factually right but any NBA fan would say we were screwed. Now what kind of a game do we play to avoid that??

Ainge let us and the Players down with the small protest. All this tip toeing around the facts is BS. Plus I don't depend upon the Celtics or any Sports Team to make my life happy. If my life depended on it I would not pick the Celts to win this Series. Two starters hobbled and a League that shows bias. LOL. Congrats to the Celts for a successful year.

If Ainge picks up a couple *real* players we're back in the thick of things this Fall.

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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2012, 01:47:40 PM »

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OKC seems to be the team set to dominate imo.

Re: The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2012, 02:06:10 PM »

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I don't see how anyone can think one team will dominate after the parity we saw this year. Every team in the playoffs was good. Let's just stick with the East.

Indiana and Philly are young, talented, tough, and hungry. New York has loads of talent. Chicago was the best team in the league before Rose went down. Atlanta and Orlando are probably done, but some new teams will emerge when they get broken up. And no one should forget about us.

If the Heat are able to dominate, more power to them...but I'll believe it when I see it.
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