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[Kane3387]

Any analysis or feedback on the Thunder? Any questions or comments? Thanks.

Oklahoma City Thunder

Starters

Dwayne Wade - Star Shooting Guard - All Around Player

Height - 6-4 Weight - 212

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
2008-09   27   MIA   79   .491   .317   .765     5.0     7.5     2.2     1.3     3.4     30.2

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html

Mark Price - Point Guard - Facilitator - Knock Down Shooter

Height - 6-0  Weight - 170 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
1988-89   24   CLE   74   .526   .441   .901     3.0     8.4     1.5     0.1     2.8     18.9

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pricema01.html

Carmelo Anthony- Small Forward - All-Around Scorer

Height - 6-8  Weight - 230 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
2008-09   24   DEN   66   .443   .371   .793     6.8     3.4     1.1     0.4     3.0     22.8

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01.html

Dennis Rodman- PF/C/SF - Defensive Stopper, Rebounder

Height - 6-7  Weight - 210 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
1991-92   30   DET   80   .539   .317   .600     18.7    2.3    0.8     0.9     1.7     9.8

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rodmade01.html

Rasheed Wallace- Center/PF - All-Around Big, Spreads Floor

Height - 6-10  Weight - 225 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
2001-02   27   POR   79   .469   .360   .734     8.2    1.9    1.3     1.3     1.7     19.3

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallara01.html

Bench

Gilbert Arenas- PG/SG - Scorer off Bench

Height - 6-3  Weight - 191 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
2005-06   24   WAS   80   .447   .369   .820     3.5    6.1    2.0     0.3     3.6     29.3

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/arenagi01.html

Allan Houston- SG/SF - Shooter off Bench

Height - 6-6  Weight - 200 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
1999-00   28   NYK   82   .483   .436   .838     3.3    2.7    0.8     0.2     2.3     19.7

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/houstal01.html

Vin Baker- PF/C - All-Around Big

Height - 6-11  Weight - 232 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
1996-97   25   MIL   78   .505   .278   .687     10.3    2.7    1.0     1.4     3.1     21.0

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bakervi01.html

Antoine Walker- PF/SF/PG - Point Forward, Spreads Floor

Height - 6-8  Weight - 224 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
2000-01   24   BOS   81   .413   .367   .716     8.9    5.5    1.7     0.6     3.7     23.4

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/walkean02.html

Jalen Rose- SF/PG/SG - Versatile Perimeter Player

Height - 6-8  Weight - 210 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
2000-01   28   IND   72   .457   .339   .828     5.0    6.0    0.9     0.6     2.9     20.5

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/roseja01.html

Chris Kaman- Center - Back to the Basket Big, Six Fouls

Height - 7-0  Weight - 268 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
2009-10   27   LAC   76   .490   .000   .749     9.3    1.6    0.5     1.2     2.9     18.5

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kamanch01.html

Sam Dalembert- Center - Six Fouls For Shaq, Rebounder, Shot Blocker

Height - 6-11  Weight - 250 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
2007-08   26   PHI   82   .513   .000   .707     10.4    0.5    0.5     2.3     1.9     10.5

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dalemsa01.html

Eddy Curry- Center - Six Fouls For Shaq, Paint Scorer

Height - 7-0  Weight - 295 Lbs.

Season   Age   Tm   GS   FG%   3P%   FT%   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PTS
2006-07   24   NYK   81   .576   .000   .615     7.0    0.8    0.4     0.5     3.6     19.5

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/curryed01.html

[Bahku]

Really don't get the Pacers nod over my team defensively ... don't think it's even close, and I match up better man-to-man and team-wise defensively over the Lakers.

Don't think I'm getting the offensive credit, either, with no player on my team that scores in single-digits or with a less than in-the-teens efficiency rating.

The AI "apple" spoiling the whole bunch, maybe?

[Roy H.]

Really don't get the Pacers nod over my team defensively ... don't think it's even close, and I match up better man-to-man and team-wise defensively over the Lakers.

Don't think I'm getting the offensive credit, either, with no player on my team that scores in single-digits or with a less than in-the-teens efficiency rating.

The AI "apple" spoiling the whole bunch, maybe?

The Pacers are a very good defensive team.

Tyson Chandler
Gerald Wallace
Lebron James
Raja Bell
Rajon Rondo

I think that's a stronger defensive squad, and a more versatile one, than the one you can put on the floor.

I'd rate Dikembe as a better defender than Chandler, but arguably everywhere else, the Pacers have the edge over your team.  I'd take Rondo over Iverson, Bell over either Richmond or Martin, and Lebron over Kirilenko, and I'd rank Wallace and Oakley similarly.  The Pacers can match up with both physical teams and extremely athletic ones.

I like a lot about your defense, but I didn't rate it as highly as Indiana's.

[Moranis]

The only guy wasn't wild about was Jim Jackson.

What's wrong with Jackson?  I really like that pick, and thought it addressed some of the concerns I had about Dons on the wing.

He was a solid but unexceptional player. A well-rounded game but wasn't well above average at anything. Just average or slightly above average. A solid defender/rebounder and decent offensive player.

He doesn't create any advantages for his team, or, negate/limit an opponents advantage well enough to be a valuable piece of the puzzle.

That was why he was constantly being shipped around during his career. He's not a guy who really effects wins and losses. Just a place-holder.

I think his second major injury really affected his athleticism.  He just wasn't the same player after it.

[Roy H.]

The only guy wasn't wild about was Jim Jackson.

What's wrong with Jackson?  I really like that pick, and thought it addressed some of the concerns I had about Dons on the wing.

He was a solid but unexceptional player. A well-rounded game but wasn't well above average at anything. Just average or slightly above average. A solid defender/rebounder and decent offensive player.

He doesn't create any advantages for his team, or, negate/limit an opponents advantage well enough to be a valuable piece of the puzzle.

That was why he was constantly being shipped around during his career. He's not a guy who really effects wins and losses. Just a place-holder.

I think his second major injury really affected his athleticism.  He just wasn't the same player after it.

I would agree.  Young Jackson was a really talented player.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Here's mine

Best Defense

1. Knicks
2. Lakers
3. Spurs

closing in... Nuggets

Best Offense

1. Magic
2. Celtics
3. Hawks

closing in... Nuggets

Best Overall

1. Lakers
2. Spurs
3. Nuggets

[Rondo2287]

Best Overall Team:
1. Celtics
2. Hawks
3. Knicks

Best Offensive Team:
1. Celtics
2. Hawks
3. Magic

Best Defensive Team:
1. Lakers
2. Knicks
3. Pacers

Im not sure who is on the lakers but i will find out and when I do... I will let you know how i feel about this.

[Rondo2287]

Best Overall Team:
1. Celtics
2. Hawks
3. Knicks

Best Offensive Team:
1. Celtics
2. Hawks
3. Magic

Best Defensive Team:
1. Lakers
2. Knicks
3. Pacers

Im not sure who is on the lakers but i will find out and when I do... I will let you know how i feel about this.

Whoah whoah whoah, a team that starts michael red is the best team defensively??

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Best Overall Team:
1. Celtics
2. Hawks
3. Knicks

Best Offensive Team:
1. Celtics
2. Hawks
3. Magic

Best Defensive Team:
1. Lakers
2. Knicks
3. Pacers

Im not sure who is on the lakers but i will find out and when I do... I will let you know how i feel about this.

Whoah whoah whoah, a team that starts michael red is the best team defensively??

I believe that Lakers team will start Eddie Jones. It has KG and Yao, great paint protectors. Jones is a very good defender. Noah as backup and Tony Allen, elite defenders. Billups is no slouch either.

[wdleehi]

My vote.


Best Overall Team:
1. Hawks
2. Grizzlies
3. 76ers

Best Offensive Team:
1. Hawks
2. Mavs
3. Celtics

Best Defensive Team:
1. Knicks
2. Lakers
3. Pacers

[Roy H.]

Best Overall Team:
1. Celtics
2. Hawks
3. Knicks

Best Offensive Team:
1. Celtics
2. Hawks
3. Magic

Best Defensive Team:
1. Lakers
2. Knicks
3. Pacers

Im not sure who is on the lakers but i will find out and when I do... I will let you know how i feel about this.

Whoah whoah whoah, a team that starts michael red is the best team defensively??

I believe that Lakers team will start Eddie Jones. It has KG and Yao, great paint protectors. Jones is a very good defender. Noah as backup and Tony Allen, elite defenders. Billups is no slouch either.

Yeah, I don't think any team has 13 above-average defenders.  I'm sure every team has weaker defenders in their rotation (here's looking at you, Carlos Boozer.) 

[Rondo2287]

Best Overall Team:
1. Celtics
2. Hawks
3. Knicks

Best Offensive Team:
1. Celtics
2. Hawks
3. Magic

Best Defensive Team:
1. Lakers
2. Knicks
3. Pacers

Im not sure who is on the lakers but i will find out and when I do... I will let you know how i feel about this.

Whoah whoah whoah, a team that starts michael red is the best team defensively??

I believe that Lakers team will start Eddie Jones. It has KG and Yao, great paint protectors. Jones is a very good defender. Noah as backup and Tony Allen, elite defenders. Billups is no slouch either.

Yeah, I don't think any team has 13 above-average defenders.  I'm sure every team has weaker defenders in their rotation (here's looking at you, Carlos Boozer.) 

I thought he was above average defensively Roy?

[Rondo2287]

Here is my vote

Best Defensive Team
1.Knicks
2.Pacers
3.Utah Jazz

Best Offensive Team
1. Philly
2. Orlando
3. Knicks

Best Overall Team
1. Knicks
2. Philly
3. Orlando

[Bahku]

Really don't get the Pacers nod over my team defensively ... don't think it's even close, and I match up better man-to-man and team-wise defensively over the Lakers.

Don't think I'm getting the offensive credit, either, with no player on my team that scores in single-digits or with a less than in-the-teens efficiency rating.

The AI "apple" spoiling the whole bunch, maybe?

The Pacers are a very good defensive team.

Tyson Chandler
Gerald Wallace
Lebron James
Raja Bell
Rajon Rondo

I think that's a stronger defensive squad, and a more versatile one, than the one you can put on the floor.

I'd rate Dikembe as a better defender than Chandler, but arguably everywhere else, the Pacers have the edge over your team.  I'd take Rondo over Iverson, Bell over either Richmond or Martin, and Lebron over Kirilenko, and I'd rank Wallace and Oakley similarly.  The Pacers can match up with both physical teams and extremely athletic ones.

I like a lot about your defense, but I didn't rate it as highly as Indiana's.

Have to disagree here, Roy.

Both Richomnd and Martin were better than Bell at rebounding the ball, and with both steals and blocking shots, (and absolutely destroy him in scoring); Rondo is my man, but defensively AI gets a bit of a raw deal, again ... he was a 3-time NBA steals leader, and one-on-one Rondo would have an extremely tough time at both ends of the floor against him, (don't get me wrong, I'd take an unselfish assist-leader like Rajon over an AI any day, but we're talking match-ups here, and honestly, Iverson would be a nightmare for R2 to defend); Lebron over AK defensively? I don't see that at all ... in the year I selected, Kirilenko was better on the boards, with steals and much, much better at blocking shots; Wallace and Oakley isn't even close for me ... Charles was almost twice the rebounder that Gerald is, a better scrapper, and much more physical, (and much more willing to pass the ball).

[Roy H.]

^ Blocked shots and steals don't tell you everything you need to know about defense, though.

For instance, Raja Bell in his prime was a VASTLY superior defender to Mitch Richmond and especially Kevin Martin.  Bell was one of the best wing defenders in the league (although it never showed in terms of stats); Martin has consistently been one of the worst and softest.

Rondo is better than AI on defense, too.  They both rank highly in terms of steals, but Rondo is superior defensively.  It's why he's made 4 All-Defense teams (twice on the first team), while AI never made one.

Lebron vs. Kirilenko is interesting, but I think Lebron is just more versatile, and is more of a lockdown defender.  It's close, and could go either way, but I give Lebron the edge.

In terms of offensive firepower, or who would win between the Pacers and Diablos, it's not really relevant to my particular rankings, which are just measuring defense.  In terms of offense or best overall, I just thought that there were at least three teams that trumped both of your squads.