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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #330 on: June 11, 2012, 02:27:53 PM »

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OK, guys. Finished my presentation. It's on the other page. Really good stuff in there.


Who is /IMG and whom did he play point guard for?

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #331 on: June 11, 2012, 02:32:52 PM »

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OK, guys. Finished my presentation. It's on the other page. Really good stuff in there.


I have two issue.


1)  No girls allowed. 


2)  Dr Pepper?  What is it?  Leaves me all confused about your team.




Ya man, aren't you sick and tired of drinking all these girly sodas? I need a soda that shows off my masculine side.


Soda? 


Yeah...


Soda...


That's what what I've been drinking...

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #332 on: June 11, 2012, 02:33:32 PM »

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OK, guys. Finished my presentation. It's on the other page. Really good stuff in there.


Who is /IMG and whom did he play point guard for?

Ha, that was originally an honest mistake but I decided to keep it.

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #333 on: June 11, 2012, 02:35:02 PM »

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OK, guys. Finished my presentation. It's on the other page. Really good stuff in there.


Who is /IMG and whom did he play point guard for?

Ha, that was originally an honest mistake but I decided to keep it.


I thought it stood for imaginary? 


Some people have imaginary friends,


StartOrien has imaginary PGs. 


Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #334 on: June 11, 2012, 02:38:24 PM »

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OK, guys. Finished my presentation. It's on the other page. Really good stuff in there.


I have two issue.


1)  No girls allowed.  


2)  Dr Pepper?  What is it?  Leaves me all confused about your team.




Ya man, aren't you sick and tired of drinking all these girly sodas? I need a soda that shows off my masculine side.


Soda?  


Yeah...


Soda...


That's what what I've been drinking...

Hey, there's even a fridge! You can put six packs of be-.....soda in it!

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #335 on: June 11, 2012, 02:39:21 PM »

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OK, guys. Finished my presentation. It's on the other page. Really good stuff in there.


Who is /IMG and whom did he play point guard for?

Ha, that was originally an honest mistake but I decided to keep it.


I thought it stood for imaginary? 


Some people have imaginary friends,


StartOrien has imaginary PGs. 



That's SO and mine's draft strategy for this summer. Just make up players with super awesome stats and win our own imaginary CB Draft.

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #336 on: June 11, 2012, 02:45:20 PM »

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This year I'm going to really focus in on calling other people stupid

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #337 on: June 11, 2012, 02:45:49 PM »

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OK, guys. Finished my presentation. It's on the other page. Really good stuff in there.


Who is /IMG and whom did he play point guard for?

Ha, that was originally an honest mistake but I decided to keep it.


I thought it stood for imaginary? 


Some people have imaginary friends,


StartOrien has imaginary PGs. 



That's SO and mine's draft strategy for this summer. Just make up players with super awesome stats and win our own imaginary CB Draft.


You better not take my imaginary C.  


If you do, I am going to take my imaginary ball and go home.  

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #338 on: June 11, 2012, 02:56:04 PM »

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That's SO and mine's draft strategy for this summer. Just make up players with super awesome stats and win our own imaginary CB Draft.

Man, I wonder what that would look like....


(blurry fadeout)

(Fade in)

Imaginary Announcer: With Marc Gasol, Rudy Gay, and Wes Matthews all prohibited from being drafted due to their newly recognized status as 'Gods of Men and Beasts', who do you think the top overall pick will be in 'K-Cat and StartO's Fake Draft Just For Us And Not For You Guys'?

Other imaginary announcer: Well, it's not going to be Carmelo Anthony, that's for sure. Cuz he's super overrated and isn't even that great a pure scorer even though everyone always says he is.

Imaginary Announcer: Sho-nuff.

Other Imaginary Announcer: You know, some people think it should be LeBron James, some people think it should be Dwight Howard, but I have to tell you that Artimus Clyde Frog is really turning a lot of heads at the combine. At 7'10 with a quicker first step than most point guards and a better shooting stroke than Ray Allen, and a better defender than Bruce Bowen, you have to think he has a shot.

Imaginary Announcer: Plus his 45.6 ZRP rating, which is totally not a statistical category I just made up, is nearly double that of the next closest guy in the league. Seems to me that anyone who takes Artimus Clyde Frog first automatically wins the draft no matter what Roy Hobbs or anyone else says about rebound rate or win shares or any other stupid statistic.

Other Announcer: Zip-it-in and zip-it-out, my man. Next up, I don't think there is really any question who is going to be the second overall pick.

(Together): PAUL GEORGE!


/scene

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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #339 on: June 11, 2012, 02:58:05 PM »

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That's SO and mine's draft strategy for this summer. Just make up players with super awesome stats and win our own imaginary CB Draft.

Man, I wonder what that would look like....


(blurry fadeout)

(Fade in)

Imaginary Announcer: With Marc Gasol, Rudy Gay, and Wes Matthews all prohibited from being drafted due to their newly recognized status as 'Gods of Men and Beasts', who do you think the top overall pick will be in 'K-Cat and StartO's Fake Draft Just For Us And Not For You Guys'?

Other imaginary announcer: Well, it's not going to be Carmelo Anthony, that's for sure. Cuz he's super overrated and isn't even that great a pure scorer even though everyone always says he is.

Imaginary Announcer: Sho-nuff.

Other Imaginary Announcer: You know, some people think it should be LeBron James, some people think it should be Dwight Howard, but I have to tell you that Artimus Clyde Frog is really turning a lot of heads at the combine. At 7'10 with a quicker first step than most point guards and a better shooting stroke than Ray Allen, and a better defender than Bruce Bowen, you have to think he has a shot.

Imaginary Announcer: Plus his 45.6 ZRP rating, which is totally not a statistical category I just made up, is nearly double that of the next closest guy in the league. Seems to me that anyone who takes Artimus Clyde Frog first automatically wins the draft no matter what Roy Hobbs or anyone else says about rebound rate or win shares or any other stupid statistic.

Other Announcer: Zip-it-in and zip-it-out, my man. Next up, I don't think there is really any question who is going to be the second overall pick.

(Together): PAUL GEORGE!


/scene


For real though, that might actually be what happens.

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #340 on: June 11, 2012, 03:29:30 PM »

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Your presentation could use more black eyed peas, imo

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #341 on: June 11, 2012, 03:31:45 PM »

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Your presentation could use more black eyed peas, imo



Re: 2012 Historical Draft Team Presentations
« Reply #342 on: June 11, 2012, 08:17:03 PM »

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Here's my view of the five teams that have done presentations thus far:

1. Magic
2. Mavericks
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3. Spurs
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4. Diablos
5. Nuggets


Here's my thinking:  The Magic and Mavericks are clearly the two best teams who have posted so far, in my humble opinion.  All of the teams for far have some major strengths, and a few weaknesses.

Orlando:  I hate Starbury on this team.  I think he has the potential to disrupt the locker room.  That said, the Magic can always cut him, and the only harm is a wasted draft pick.  This is probably the best passing team in the league, and I love that they can outscore anybody or play some excellent defense.  Weaknesses:  Not great defensively up front, overall weakness at the PG position.

Dallas:  The most talented team so far, maybe.  This team can score and shoot with the best of them.  It's hard to overestimate how good of a player Karl Malone was in his prime, and he's going to punish teams.  Weaknesses:  This is a "fit" problem to me a bit.  Lots and lots of ultra-talented guys, but also a lot of "me first" dudes in my opinion.  Bynum, young Pierce, Westbrook, Bibby, Stackhouse, Cousins, etc. ...  There's a criticism that those guys are out to "get theirs".  Also, I don't like the strategy of building a team to score 120+ points per night.  Teams like that run into the right defensive squad and they're in trouble.

San Antonio:  Another extremely talented team.  It would be great to see teams try to score on a JO / Smith / Battier / Pippen / Armstrong lineup.  Ilyasova and Person weren't my favorite picks, but otherwise this team has a strong bench that fits well.  Weaknesses:  I don't know what it is, but I don't like that Finley / Nash backcourt.  I guess it's because we've seen it before on the "real" Dallas Mavericks, and it didn't work at all defensively.  It was just bad.  Also, I don't love the fit of JO and Brand next to each other.  I really wish the Spurs had landed a dominant center to play next to JO; that would have been something.

Downeast:  I love Dikembe as a backstop and Kirilenko as a roaming defender.  Iverson can pressure the passing lanes that way, making this team opportunistic on defense.  I love Charles Oakley; he's one of my favorite role players ever.  Weakness:  Iverson.  I don't like Iverson as a starter in this format; I think it leads to getting less out of the surrounding teammates than you'd like in this format.  I could buy Iverson in one of these leagues if he was a sixth man surrounded by defensive role players.  Here, though, he's playing next to Mitch Richmond and Amare Stoudemire, two players who need a ton of touches and who don't play much defense.  We saw this year how ineffective Amare can be playing next to a lane-clogging center and a high-usage scorer.  I think that would be even worse on the Diablos (and I am a big Amare fan).  I thought the Klay Thompsen pick was a wasted one (binkie alert?), and I hate the idea of a poor defender like Kevin Martin playing out of position at SF.

Nuggets:  It's probably unfair to put this team in last (of these five particular teams).  Ewing was an absolutely amazing player, and I'm a Penny fan.  Grant Hill was other-wordly back in the day (I mean, 21/9/7 with 2 steals for a full season?!?)  Weaknesses:  I just can't rate a team with P.J. Brown and Doug Christie in the starting lineup that highly.  Role players are nice, but when you've got two players so far below the league-average in your starting lineup, it makes things a huge up hill struggle.  I don't love many of the bench players, either (although I do like Prince a lot.)

All of the above are excellent teams, but in my subjective opinion, I like some better than others.


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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #343 on: June 11, 2012, 10:11:24 PM »

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appreciate the write up, Roy, a lot. Honestly, Ilyasova while not a pick I regret, isnt one I expected to be popular. I just thought he had a great year this season, his skillset matches up well with Nash's and I just plain like the guy. Probably should've gone with Diaw from that great year he had with Nash.

Finley and Nash, I guess we see it different. Wings look a lot worse when you've got no one backing them up, and that's not the case here. Finley isn't a bad defensive player, he's a good one, and very few guys escape a tenure with Don Nelson with a sterling defensive reputation.

I should have chosen Stephen Jackson over Wesley Person, and tried to sell a second unit with a foundation of Armstrong, and moving JO over, and putting him next to Big Z.

Still, I have no reservations of a Brand/JO frontline, their skills complement each others, and aside from JO against the biggest most dominant centers, their weaknesses are addressed as well.

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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #344 on: June 11, 2012, 10:46:45 PM »

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Thanks for the insight sir Roy. I do believe though that Christie and Brown fit this team perfect.

They do not need the ball as much, giving Penny and G-Hill and Ewing to make money on the court. They play tough nosed defense. And could hit open shots when left open.

The bench, with Strickland, Nick Anderson, Smits, Lee and Tayshaun is a good balance of offense and defense. Hill and Fisher are kept in case of more defense is needed.
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