The problem with Iverson is, he was a shooting guard in a point guards body because he was small and not a very good shooter. Sure if you could a shooting guard with almost 8 assists a game you would take it, but you would also want that shooting guard to shoot better than 30.8% from three whose eFG% was just 45%. It should also be noted that that year, Iverson was clearly the PG for the Sixers, so I think there is a problem with using that season and then putting Iverson in as a shooting guard as he was a PG that year.
Iverson is my starting POINT guard, and listed as such.
but your analysis has been comparing him to other shooting guards, when he should be compared to other point guards.
And Stephon Marbury averaged over 8 assists for 7 of his first 9 seasons (the other two were over 7), and most people would call him selfish as a player. Looking at assist totals and using them as an example of an unselfish player is quite misleading so I'd be careful there.
No, I haven't just been comparing SGs, I've been comparing point guards, too ... please read my whole posts, not just part, (Rondo, Magic, etc.). And assist totals, when talking about passing, is one of the least misleading stats there is.
Thing is, you'll never see me defending his off-court antics, or how he's handled his personal life, or some of the decisions he's made, but those things aren't a part of the fantasy draft thing, and I still have not seen proof of the horribly selfish player who doesn't pass the ball or help make his team and team-mates better.
And as GF so pointed out, the team I've built around him here is a team more condusive to development of a cohesive unit and defensive strength.
Yes, his assist/turnover ratio wasn't great, but every player has shortcomings, and I'll take the trade-off there and keep a guy who was an NBA MVP, Rookie-of-the-Year, eleven-time All-Star, 4-time NBA Scoring Champion, 3-time NBA Steals Leader, 2-time NBA All-Star MVP, and three-time All-NBA First Team.
And a 2 time quitter when it didn't go his way.
Oh come on, man, there was a lot more to his leaving than that, and far from all his doing.
And if you want to go the route of players complaining when things weren't going great, well, that would be an incredibly long list, with a couple of players from your own team, I might add.
That's another one of those generic "I hate Iverson" lines ... it really has no bearing on a fantasy team, or it's success/failure ... the things I listed here do.
Iverson totally flamed out of Denver when he had to share the ball with another ball dominant player and that is after Philly tired of him and traded him mid-season to Denver. Iverson then quit on the Pistons when he didn't get his way (and the team was forced to remove him from the team). He signs with Memphis to come off the bench and then complains about coming off the bench and left the team. All of that absolutely is relevant to this sort of thing where a lot of alpha dog personalities have to coexist. Iverson has consistently shown that when things don't go his way he whines and complains and if they don't get "fixed" he quits on his team.
Iverson was a great player, but in this sort of thing, he isn't the sort of player you want. He is much too alpha dog to really fit in with a team. I can't blame you for drafting, his talent is unquestioned, but there is a reason he lasted as long as he did.
Well, that's how you see it, and you're entitled to your perception ... but I don't agree.
There were other circumstances that contributed to him leaving those teams, and not just an attitude problem from him, or his "not getting his way" ... that's drastically over-simplifying a much more complicated situation.
Larry Brown loved the guy, as did Thompson in college, and those opinions carry a bit more weight.
I absolutely get where you guys are coming from, and there is certainly some truth to his attitude problems, (and they bother me as much as they do anyone), but it's also not a comprehensive assessment of the guy or his game, and not fair to assume that he was completely without compromise in things concerning his play-time or basketball career.
Anyway ... AI is threatening to take his ball and go home if we don't acknowledge any other players on the team, (unless we want to talk about
practice, of coure).
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