2012 CB Historical Draft Board (New News, Check It Out)

[StartOrien]

The Mavericks will add some beef, some talent, and a head case all wrapped into one (kind of like my starting center).

C - Demarcus Cousins

As an unabashed DMC fanboy, I love this selection.

[wdleehi]

Younger Ewing was faster then the image most of us have in out head (older Ewing with bad knees)


On the flip side, how many of the quick PFs can handle Ewing down low?

Still, he's a little slow for the position, and Smits is certainly not quick footed. To me, the issue is more with the Dunkin Dutchman: I don't think he brings you quite enough to warrant the speed disadvantage you'd have.

He would be a top 2-3 C if he was playing today.


His teams had strong team defenses.  

I'm not arguing how good he was by any means, but to me it's like combining Bynum and Marc Gasol. They're top notch talents, but I think too slow footed to be truly effective together.  

To continue, I think a good example of this was the Denver - LAL series. Even though the Lakers did win, they were a vastly superior team but Denver kept in it because Bynum simply couldn't keep up in transition costing them tons of easy baskets in transition.

When talent levels are going to be much closer, I think a Ewing-Smits combo would get whipped.

Bynum is also a knucklehead.  Neither Gasol not Bynum have the outside game Ewing and Smits have.


The Ewing-Smits inside outside game would be a giant pain to defend.

[indeedproceed]

Round 12: June 8th

Rd      Pk      Ovr#      Time      Team (GM)      
   12      1      (193)      1:30 PM      Heat (RebusRankin)   Kendall Gill
   12      2      (194)      1:35 PM      Jazz (bdm860)   Kyrie Irving
   12      3      (195)      1:40 PM      Nuggets (Yoki)   'You Better Call' Tyrone Hill
   12      4      (196)      1:45 PM      Spurs (IP)   Darrell Armstrong
   12      5      (197)      1:50 PM      Magic (Start Orien)   Jason Richardson
   12      6      (198)      1:55 PM      Thunder (Kane3387)   Sam Dalembert
   12      7      (199)      2:00 PM      Bulls (33-00-32)   Ty Lawson
   12      8      (200)      2:05 PM      Celtics (KCatTheStripe)   Antawn Jamison
   12      9      (201)      2:10 PM      Clippers (Bahku)   Damon Stoudemire
   12      10      (202)      2:15 PM      Mavericks (Moranis)   Boogie Cousins
   12      11      (203)      2:20 PM      Hawks (wdleehi/Redz)   Elder Campbell
   12      12      (204)      2:25 PM      Grizzlies (Dons)   Cedric Ceballos
   12      13      (205)      2:30 PM      Pacers (Celtic Fan Forever)   Holding up the train
   12      14      (206)      2:35 PM      Knicks (Rondo2287)   
   12      15      (207)      2:40 PM      Lakers (GreenFaith1819)   
   12      16      (208)      2:45 PM      Sixers (Who)   

[wdleehi]

Questions to the panelist.

Is it better to start T.Hill of D.Lee?

David Lee will crowd Ewing IMO. Bad fit there. Closest fit I see if PJ Brown.

I disagree Commish. Lee can step out and take midrange shots. He can stay around 15-18 feet to give Ewing some space to work.

Ewing worked pretty well with Chuck Oakley. PJ Brown is the logical selection.

I don't think so (says the one panelist weighing in ).  Brown is a nice player, but you can't run out a starting lineup that includes Doug Christie and P.J. Brown and hope to keep up with the other teams in this league.  

Yoki needs scoring in his lineup more than he does another tough role player.  Lee makes more sense.

I still like Ewing and Smits.

I kind of like it too but most disagree that Ewing can't keep up with the faster PF's.

Younger Ewing was faster then the image most of us have in out head (older Ewing with bad knees)


On the flip side, how many of the quick PFs can handle Ewing down low?

Ummm...KG and Tim D politely raise their hands in unison, like this young man:

A young Ewing can defend those two.  (He defended the Dream)

[wdleehi]

Round 12: June 8th

Rd      Pk      Ovr#      Time      Team (GM)      
   12      1      (193)      1:30 PM      Heat (RebusRankin)   Kendall Gill
   12      2      (194)      1:35 PM      Jazz (bdm860)   Kyrie Irving
   12      3      (195)      1:40 PM      Nuggets (Yoki)   'You Better Call' Tyrone Hill
   12      4      (196)      1:45 PM      Spurs (IP)   Darrell Armstrong
   12      5      (197)      1:50 PM      Magic (Start Orien)   Jason Richardson
   12      6      (198)      1:55 PM      Thunder (Kane3387)   Sam Dalembert
   12      7      (199)      2:00 PM      Bulls (33-00-32)   Ty Lawson
   12      8      (200)      2:05 PM      Celtics (KCatTheStripe)   Antawn Jamison
   12      9      (201)      2:10 PM      Clippers (Bahku)   Damon Stoudemire
   12      10      (202)      2:15 PM      Mavericks (Moranis)   Boogie Cousins
   12      11      (203)      2:20 PM      Hawks (wdleehi/Redz)   Elder Campbell
   12      12      (204)      2:25 PM      Grizzlies (Dons)   Cedric Ceballos
   12      13      (205)      2:30 PM      Pacers (Celtic Fan Forever)   Holding up the train
   12      14      (206)      2:35 PM      Knicks (Rondo2287)   
   12      15      (207)      2:40 PM      Lakers (GreenFaith1819)   
   12      16      (208)      2:45 PM      Sixers (Who)   

Respect your Elders!!!

[GreenFaith1819]

Questions to the panelist.

Is it better to start T.Hill of D.Lee?

David Lee will crowd Ewing IMO. Bad fit there. Closest fit I see if PJ Brown.

I disagree Commish. Lee can step out and take midrange shots. He can stay around 15-18 feet to give Ewing some space to work.

Ewing worked pretty well with Chuck Oakley. PJ Brown is the logical selection.

I don't think so (says the one panelist weighing in ).  Brown is a nice player, but you can't run out a starting lineup that includes Doug Christie and P.J. Brown and hope to keep up with the other teams in this league.  

Yoki needs scoring in his lineup more than he does another tough role player.  Lee makes more sense.

I still like Ewing and Smits.

I kind of like it too but most disagree that Ewing can't keep up with the faster PF's.

Younger Ewing was faster then the image most of us have in out head (older Ewing with bad knees)


On the flip side, how many of the quick PFs can handle Ewing down low?

Ummm...KG and Tim D politely raise their hands in unison, like this young man:

A young Ewing can defend those two.  (He defended the Dream)

But Dream beat him in the Finals...

KG (and Tim, to a good measure) would be able to defend Patrick down low AND score, too.

[wdleehi]

Questions to the panelist.

Is it better to start T.Hill of D.Lee?

David Lee will crowd Ewing IMO. Bad fit there. Closest fit I see if PJ Brown.

I disagree Commish. Lee can step out and take midrange shots. He can stay around 15-18 feet to give Ewing some space to work.

Ewing worked pretty well with Chuck Oakley. PJ Brown is the logical selection.

I don't think so (says the one panelist weighing in ).  Brown is a nice player, but you can't run out a starting lineup that includes Doug Christie and P.J. Brown and hope to keep up with the other teams in this league.  

Yoki needs scoring in his lineup more than he does another tough role player.  Lee makes more sense.

I still like Ewing and Smits.

I kind of like it too but most disagree that Ewing can't keep up with the faster PF's.

Younger Ewing was faster then the image most of us have in out head (older Ewing with bad knees)


On the flip side, how many of the quick PFs can handle Ewing down low?

Ummm...KG and Tim D politely raise their hands in unison, like this young man:

A young Ewing can defend those two.  (He defended the Dream)

But Dream beat him in the Finals...

KG (and Tim, to a good measure) would be able to defend Patrick down low AND score, too.

There is a difference between being able to defend and shut down.


Players like the Dream will not be shut down. 


Not to mention it was a good 7 game series.  The Dream outscored Ewing and Ewing out rebounded the Dream.

[indeedproceed]

k, i'm gonna go get lunch.

[GreenFaith1819]

Whose next?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

The Mavericks will add some beef, some talent, and a head case all wrapped into one (kind of like my starting center).

C - Demarcus Cousins

As an unabashed DMC fanboy, I love this selection.

Like this pick. I don't think he's a headcase at all. As soon as Westphal was out we never heard any head case issues on him. He's shooting really bad % as a big man though.

[Who]

The Mavericks will add some beef, some talent, and a head case all wrapped into one (kind of like my starting center).

C - Demarcus Cousins

As an unabashed DMC fanboy, I love this selection.

Like this pick. I don't think he's a headcase at all. As soon as Westphal was out we never heard any head case issues on him. He's shooting really bad % as a big man though.

And still doesn't play much defense.

Terrific prospect but not much of a player in current terms.

[GreenFaith1819]

If my turn comes up in the next few min, pls give me a min or two.

I'm in the thread - just reviewing my choices.

[indeedproceed]

CFF still holdin up the draft train.

[Moranis]

The Mavericks will add some beef, some talent, and a head case all wrapped into one (kind of like my starting center).

C - Demarcus Cousins

As an unabashed DMC fanboy, I love this selection.

Like this pick. I don't think he's a headcase at all. As soon as Westphal was out we never heard any head case issues on him. He's shooting really bad % as a big man though.

And still doesn't play much defense.

Terrific prospect but not much of a player in current terms.

He is my third center and in this format, I think that what he brings is incredibly valuable.  I mean 18/11 is pretty good no matter how you come about it.  Plus, I think he fits in with the whole theme of my team.

[Rondo2287]

The Mavericks will add some beef, some talent, and a head case all wrapped into one (kind of like my starting center).

C - Demarcus Cousins

As an unabashed DMC fanboy, I love this selection.

Like this pick. I don't think he's a headcase at all. As soon as Westphal was out we never heard any head case issues on him. He's shooting really bad % as a big man though.

And still doesn't play much defense.

Terrific prospect but not much of a player in current terms.

He is my third center and in this format, I think that what he brings is incredibly valuable.  I mean 18/11 is pretty good no matter how you come about it.  Plus, I think he fits in with the whole theme of my team.

Whats your teams theme?