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Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2012, 11:32:18 PM »

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Anti Hollins posters...

F the box scores. Hollins will never impress you.

WATCH. THE. GAMES.

He hustles. His effort is high. He gives the team some energy. He's not a option you want for very many minutes, but I thought all in all he helped us this series. Enough complaining about the stats. He's not in there for stats

This is the NBA. If hustle and effort were important we would see a lot more athletic white men. Too bad this is a game where the objective is to get more points than the other team and not let them score as much on you. Hollins doesn't do either of those well.

Congrats on his hustle. It is nice in the regular season when people are going through the motions and he can set an example. This is the playoffs, people don't need hustle to motivate them.

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2012, 11:34:16 PM »

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LOL what?

Credit for what? Not completely blowing the series?

He played pretty good defense the last two games, and without his rebound tonight we're playing a game seven.

I'd say he's worthy of a shout out.

He got lit up by Al Horford. I don't know what game you were watching.
Horford made 6 shots in 46 minutes, 18 of those were presumably covered by Hollins. He could have done himself a bit better by not blowing a couple of dunks by learning to up fake, but it took Perk like 7 years to learn that, and everyone knows he was dubbed the New Bill Russell on this blog. Let the kid shine for a couple minutes. He played some big minutes in crunch time and didn't totally crap his pants. That's gotta say something about a guy who couldn't even crack Cleveland's line up this year.

Al Horford had 10 points in the 4th quarter. Hollins played 9 of the 12 minutes of the fourth.

Good stats. But Hollins was brutal. Almost lost us this game singlehandledly....but thank goodness he did his job and got us a rebound.

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2012, 11:37:48 PM »

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People are missing the point. Hollins did his job out there tonight. He was a major part of the reason that the Hawks went on a scoring drought during that huge stretch where we couldn't score the ball. Yes, Horford got loose, but it wasn't always the fault of Hollins. He had to be picking up against players that would have been open due to a switch, and he did a great job getting them to take very ugly looking shots.

There's a reason why there weren't many johnson and smith highlights until the very tail end of the 4th quarter. Yes, Horford went off for a bit, but pay attention to the stretch where we couldn't score a thing, but were still up by like 9 or close to 10. Hollins saved us from playing a game 7, bigtime.

Don't pay attention to the stat sheet. This guy, I can clearly see, potentially saved our season tonight.

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2012, 11:50:37 PM »

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People are missing the point. Hollins did his job out there tonight. He was a major part of the reason that the Hawks went on a scoring drought during that huge stretch where we couldn't score the ball. Yes, Horford got loose, but it wasn't always the fault of Hollins. He had to be picking up against players that would have been open due to a switch, and he did a great job getting them to take very ugly looking shots.

There's a reason why there weren't many johnson and smith highlights until the very tail end of the 4th quarter. Yes, Horford went off for a bit, but pay attention to the stretch where we couldn't score a thing, but were still up by like 9 or close to 10. Hollins saved us from playing a game 7, bigtime.

Don't pay attention to the stat sheet. This guy, I can clearly see, potentially saved our season tonight.


I don't really know what people were watch but Hollins was HUGE for us tonight!! When he played with Genie (KG) and didn't have to cover up for Bass on D we were beasting!! KG and Hollins on D together saved us!! Say what you want about letting Horford get those 6 at the end but are you watching what lead to him not being on Horford???? Go re-watch the game, Hollins was big whether "you" give cred or not!!!
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Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2012, 11:56:50 PM »

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People are missing the point. Hollins did his job out there tonight. He was a major part of the reason that the Hawks went on a scoring drought during that huge stretch where we couldn't score the ball. Yes, Horford got loose, but it wasn't always the fault of Hollins. He had to be picking up against players that would have been open due to a switch, and he did a great job getting them to take very ugly looking shots.

There's a reason why there weren't many johnson and smith highlights until the very tail end of the 4th quarter. Yes, Horford went off for a bit, but pay attention to the stretch where we couldn't score a thing, but were still up by like 9 or close to 10. Hollins saved us from playing a game 7, bigtime.

Don't pay attention to the stat sheet. This guy, I can clearly see, potentially saved our season tonight.


I don't really know what people were watch but Hollins was HUGE for us tonight!! When he played with Genie (KG) and didn't have to cover up for Bass on D we were beasting!! KG and Hollins on D together saved us!! Say what you want about letting Horford get those 6 at the end but are you watching what lead to him not being on Horford???? Go re-watch the game, Hollins was big whether "you" give cred or not!!!

So why was KG a +9, Bass a +2 and Hollins a -4?

I watched the game. Hollins was the furthest thing from "huge" or "beasting" on the court. The offense literally came to a stand still when he was in the game without KG. And his bad defense on Horford pretty much got the Hawks back in the game.

Now if Horford had been just hitting shots or putting good post moves on Hollins, you could somewhat overlook that. But he literally gave Horford like 3 wide open dunks/layups and left him for a wide open jumper.

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2012, 11:57:00 PM »

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wish the guy could rebound but his energy was hge tonight.

He is an above average p&r defender too. Not KG level but still really good.

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2012, 12:01:23 AM »

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I agree that in context Hollins was great.

He did hustle, make a couple nice defensive plays and keep possessions alive with effort.

Overall though he STINKS.  He hardly rebounds, seems to have zero basketball sense, can't shoot free throws, has zero post moves and makes poor decisions.  His range is 2 feet at best and he even misses half of those.

But for a player picked up off the scrap heap it isn't fair to expect much.  It's not Hollin's fault that Doc has him playing 18 minutes in the Celtic's biggest game of the year...

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2012, 12:04:21 AM »

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I like him. His rebound was clutch and I actually saw him BOXING OUT.

You can't teach size, athleticism, hustle, energy, and heart. The rest can be learned.

Does anybody remember what Avery Bradley looked like last season? Yeah...

If he works hard this off season he could be something special. I think he can DEFINITELY get better than what he is.

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2012, 12:06:05 AM »

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if hollins 2 points 2 rebounds in 18 minutes is beasting, i hate to see his production when his not.

I give him credit in that he tries hard and i will cheer him, that's about it.

his like an athletic scal, hope danny doesn't give him $15 mill.

btw i did watch the game.

btw avery was a top recuirt that was one year out of high school last year, hollins is in his mid 20's and had a few season in college and the nba, 

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2012, 12:06:10 AM »

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LOL what?

Credit for what? Not completely blowing the series?

He played pretty good defense the last two games, and without his rebound tonight we're playing a game seven.

I'd say he's worthy of a shout out.

He got lit up by Al Horford. I don't know what game you were watching.
Horford made 6 shots in 46 minutes, 18 of those were presumably covered by Hollins. He could have done himself a bit better by not blowing a couple of dunks by learning to up fake, but it took Perk like 7 years to learn that, and everyone knows he was dubbed the New Bill Russell on this blog. Let the kid shine for a couple minutes. He played some big minutes in crunch time and didn't totally crap his pants. That's gotta say something about a guy who couldn't even crack Cleveland's line up this year.

Al Horford had 10 points in the 4th quarter. Hollins played 9 of the 12 minutes of the fourth.

Good stats. But Hollins was brutal. Almost lost us this game singlehandledly....but thank goodness he did his job and got us a rebound.
Bass was at fault for 3 of those buckets.

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2012, 12:06:33 AM »

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I like him. His rebound was clutch and I actually saw him BOXING OUT.

You can't teach size, athleticism, hustle, energy, and heart. The rest can be learned.

Does anybody remember what Avery Bradley looked like last season? Yeah...

If he works hard this off season he could be something special. I think he can DEFINITELY get better than what he is.

Ryan Hollins: 27 with 7 years of pro experience and 4 years in college.
Avery Bradley was: 20 as a rookie with only 1 year in college

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2012, 12:07:00 AM »

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People are missing the point. Hollins did his job out there tonight. He was a major part of the reason that the Hawks went on a scoring drought during that huge stretch where we couldn't score the ball. Yes, Horford got loose, but it wasn't always the fault of Hollins. He had to be picking up against players that would have been open due to a switch, and he did a great job getting them to take very ugly looking shots.

There's a reason why there weren't many johnson and smith highlights until the very tail end of the 4th quarter. Yes, Horford went off for a bit, but pay attention to the stretch where we couldn't score a thing, but were still up by like 9 or close to 10. Hollins saved us from playing a game 7, bigtime.

Don't pay attention to the stat sheet. This guy, I can clearly see, potentially saved our season tonight.


I don't really know what people were watch but Hollins was HUGE for us tonight!! When he played with Genie (KG) and didn't have to cover up for Bass on D we were beasting!! KG and Hollins on D together saved us!! Say what you want about letting Horford get those 6 at the end but are you watching what lead to him not being on Horford???? Go re-watch the game, Hollins was big whether "you" give cred or not!!!

So why was KG a +9, Bass a +2 and Hollins a -4?

I watched the game. Hollins was the furthest thing from "huge" or "beasting" on the court. The offense literally came to a stand still when he was in the game without KG. And his bad defense on Horford pretty much got the Hawks back in the game.

Now if Horford had been just hitting shots or putting good post moves on Hollins, you could somewhat overlook that. But he literally gave Horford like 3 wide open dunks/layups and left him for a wide open jumper.
Bass was only + because of his first half stints.

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2012, 12:09:18 AM »

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LOL what?

Credit for what? Not completely blowing the series?

He played pretty good defense the last two games, and without his rebound tonight we're playing a game seven.

I'd say he's worthy of a shout out.

He got lit up by Al Horford. I don't know what game you were watching.
Horford was swung the ball after three rotations and got open in transition on Bass!

Just because he played C doesn't mean he was directly responsible for all of Horfords points.

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« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2012, 12:16:08 AM »

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I like him. His rebound was clutch and I actually saw him BOXING OUT.

You can't teach size, athleticism, hustle, energy, and heart. The rest can be learned.

Does anybody remember what Avery Bradley looked like last season? Yeah...

If he works hard this off season he could be something special. I think he can DEFINITELY get better than what he is.

Ryan Hollins: 27 with 7 years of pro experience and 4 years in college.
Avery Bradley was: 20 as a rookie with only 1 year in college

LOL true...I still think he can get better though. Outside of his stint with the Mavs, he's played for the Bobcats, Timberwolves and post Lebron Cavs. Not exactly the ideal situations to grow in.

Re: Give Ryan Hollins some credit.
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2012, 12:22:12 AM »

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LOL what?

Credit for what? Not completely blowing the series?

Exactly! I honestly think people think you have to be matched up on someone by position! Hollins was beasting just for being Hollins and doing so well! Also, offense is only one end, AB has been kinda missing on offense but still stellar on defense, we aren't saying he was horrible!! You guys see Horford loose and say, "what is Hollins doing?!" not even seeing Bass looking a mess!! I'm not even comment anymore, we can agree to disagree people!
He played pretty good defense the last two games, and without his rebound tonight we're playing a game seven.

I'd say he's worthy of a shout out.

He got lit up by Al Horford. I don't know what game you were watching.
Horford was swung the ball after three rotations and got open in transition on Bass!

Just because he played C doesn't mean he was directly responsible for all of Horfords points.
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