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Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2012, 12:06:02 PM »

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Rondo has to understand the moment he is in.  He didn't.  He cost his team a chance to win. 

It is things like this that makes a team want to trade a player and destroys a player's trade value. 
I highly doubt this will have any impact on Danny's decision to trade him.   

Rondo was the only starter to show up last night.  The rest looked like they were sleepwalking their way through the game.  If you're going to make comments on who should be traded based on what they did in last night's game, the rest of the team would be more deserving of being traded.

Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2012, 12:20:01 PM »

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That foul call was atrocious.. It's a live ball that everyone was aggressively going at. There was contact of course, but it was inadvertant and it should have been a jumpball.

That ref, whatever his name is, the bald guy; made way too many calls against the Celtics.. I think there was a no call a couple plays before where Rondo clearly got fouled that Rondo got after him for too.. When that same guy made the foul call on a clear jump ball, Rondo of course had had enough..

I'm not mad at Rondo for bumping into him.. He knew he was going to get tossed, but whatever, that call cost us a chance at a comeback.. which i really felt was going to happen after that miraculous baseline jumper by Pierce on 2 defenders.. I doubt Rondo gets suspended for it.. Its not like he socked the Ref in the mouth.. which is what I would've done.. but then again, I'm not a professional..

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Oh come on, Bass bumped from behind, wrapped him up and fell on top of him.  It doesn't matter if it's a loose ball or not, it's a foul.

The foul was called way after Bass jumped on top of Smith.. It was called when they were wrestling for the ball.. He should have called the foul on Bass when he was actually on top of Smith if he was going to call it at all

I disagree, this is how the NBA is.  If he didn't call a foul on Bass there then he had to call a travel on Josh Smith for rolling around, a jump ball was never an option.  The NBA plays advantage even though they should not.
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Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2012, 12:24:08 PM »

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99% of the competitors in all NBA games seem to be able to prevent themselves from aggressively making contact with the refs when angry, though.  It has nothing to do with playing sports, as almost everybody is able to play within the rules.  Rather, it's called keeping your composure, something that Rondo struggles with from time to time.

Sports is all about funneling your aggression and desire into something constructive.  Rondo lost sight of that, and did something stupid.

I completely agree that he needs to keep his composure.

Im not saying that he should have bumped the ref, and all that etc. But the thing is, i see where hes coming from. hes a fiery competitor

There's plenty of other fiery competitors in this world, they don't bump officials.  To my knowledge, KG has never bumped an official.  Bottom line is this, Rondo is a very good basketball player, but he's a punk.  He may not be so in the sense of someone like Ron Artest, but Rondo's had enough issues now where the guy is just a jerk on the court.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uqQpCo0d0E

It is the constant double standard applied to Rondo that agitates. KG above. PP in 2005, DJ was considered a malcontent, Bird throwing a ball, the list goes on and on. To pretend this some sort of grand aberration from NBA behavior that destroys a players value is absurd. 

Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2012, 12:24:31 PM »

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a kid on my lacrosse team in high school backhanded a ref after a game.  That was pretty legendary.

WAs his name Ron Artist?

Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2012, 12:50:40 PM »

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Rondo has to understand the moment he is in.  He didn't.  He cost his team a chance to win. 

It is things like this that makes a team want to trade a player and destroys a player's trade value. 
I highly doubt this will have any impact on Danny's decision to trade him.   

Rondo was the only starter to show up last night.  The rest looked like they were sleepwalking their way through the game.  If you're going to make comments on who should be traded based on what they did in last night's game, the rest of the team would be more deserving of being traded.

This specific incident? Maybe not.

This specific incident on top of all of the other bursts of immaturity? Possibly.

The fact of the matter is that Rondo is supposed to be maturing into the role of a leader, and he's not doing it. He's a 26 year old man with a championship ring on his finger, and he's acting like a hot-headed rookie that thinks he's above the game.

I love Rondo and his unique skill set, but I cant stand his immaturity.

Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2012, 01:01:46 PM »

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More excuses for the kid.

That behavior is unacceptable from a professional. Period.

Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2012, 01:12:08 PM »

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If your all over Rondo for the bump you must never have played sports.

Rondo would never just go hit a ref. I agree, you should not bump a ref. But be logical, these guys are competitors before there pros. In a game where ROndo was the only guy playing consistent, probably arguments on the bench etc. Not to mention that particular official had been calling against the celtics all game.

Its rediculous to bash on a competitor in the heat of battle after an emotional comeback, to think you have a chance to make it a 2 point game, and the ref takes that chance away.

All of you must never played sports at the next level......besdies the fact that the refs were horrible the whole game, and the fact Rondo was the only Celtics playing good ball from start to finish, there was a critcal call made with 40 seconds left. He's a competitor, not a cry baby or immature.

I played sports in grade school, middle school, high school, and college. I've been the captain of multiple football and rugby teams, the person with the responsibility of communicating with referees, and I would never, ever, touch a ref.

I understand Rondo's frustration, and I'm not even remotely angry at the first tech, and if he would've just gotten another tech for yelling, I wouldn't be mad about that. The Bass foul pretty much sealed the game, and Rondo was angry.

But you never, ever, touch an official.


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Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2012, 01:12:35 PM »

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More excuses for the kid.

That behavior is unacceptable from a professional. Period.

True.  But that kind of whistle is unacceptable from a professional referee, too.

Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2012, 02:05:17 PM »

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After seeing it again numerous times, I actually think that Marc Davis made the right call when he whistled Brandon Bass for a foul in that scrum for the loose ball.  I think that what was so frustrating about the call was more the circumstances of the event than it being an actual blown call.  The team was making an impassioned come back.  Garnett made a great dive on the floor for the ball, but, unfortunately it slipped through his hands.  Bass hustled in to follow up, but it was too late and he fouled Josh Smith.

The whole affair was an unfortunate play in a game where nothing seemed to be going our way, but our team still managed to fight to give themselves a chance.  This was the last straw, but it was a good call.

As to Rondo, he made a mistake.  I liked his fieriness, and I don't think it was in any way malicious, but the truth is he clearly stuck his chest out and gave a little extra bump as he was following the ref. 

I'm sure he'll be out of action tomorrow night.  I'm hoping we can win that game, and the series, and put this whole, stupid incident behind us. 
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Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2012, 02:09:48 PM »

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Bass did hit him, but only after Josh Smith traveled by barrell rolling with the ball a few times.

That's why they usually call jump ball in these situations, players travel on the ground and also mug each other during the scrum.

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« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2012, 02:12:58 PM »

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Bass did hit him, but only after Josh Smith traveled by barrell rolling with the ball a few times.

That's why they usually call jump ball in these situations, players travel on the ground and also mug each other during the scrum.

I was surprised how long they let that scrum go on before a whistle was blown.  Thought jump ball right away.


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Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2012, 02:23:35 PM »

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Bass did hit him, but only after Josh Smith traveled by barrell rolling with the ball a few times.

That's why they usually call jump ball in these situations, players travel on the ground and also mug each other during the scrum.

It was definitely a close call.  I still think Bass fouled him, not just once, but possibly twice.  I agree that it was the kind of situation where often no call is made, because there's just too much going on in those scrums, but the ref was standing right there and he some contact that warranted a whistle.

Watching that play, what really sucks for me is that it was followed by such a great play by the Celtics.  Pierce got the nice strip and KG's dive for the ball is the kind of play that becomes legendary if we gain possession and go on to win. 

Alas, it didn't work out that way.  That's sports for ya.  I'm not blaming the ref for that one, though. 
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Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2012, 02:25:30 PM »

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Bass did hit him, but only after Josh Smith traveled by barrell rolling with the ball a few times.

That's why they usually call jump ball in these situations, players travel on the ground and also mug each other during the scrum.

It was definitely a close call.  I still think Bass fouled him, not just once, but possibly twice. 
He definitely did, after Josh Smith travelled twice and fouled KG.

That's why officials call jump ball in those situations, you could whistle three or four players for a foul or travel everytime those happen. So why is Bass's offense worse than Smith's travel, or earlier banging of KG?

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« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2012, 02:29:03 PM »

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Re: Whoever is all over Rondo for the bump must never have played sports
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2012, 02:42:13 PM »

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Bass did hit him, but only after Josh Smith traveled by barrell rolling with the ball a few times.

That's why they usually call jump ball in these situations, players travel on the ground and also mug each other during the scrum.

It was definitely a close call.  I still think Bass fouled him, not just once, but possibly twice. 
He definitely did, after Josh Smith travelled twice and fouled KG.

That's why officials call jump ball in those situations, you could whistle three or four players for a foul or travel everytime those happen. So why is Bass's offense worse than Smith's travel, or earlier banging of KG?

Smith did not foul KG.  You might have a case on the travel by Smith, but my take is that the reason no travel or jump ball was called earlier was that nobody had really established possession yet.

It was certainly a tough call with a lot going on.  I wish I could, but I can't really fault Davis for the call that he made.  I just can't. 
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