Either Rondo or Bradley IS getting traded no doubt about it

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

Unless we get a top 5 pick... Bradley isnt going anywhere... and Rondo isnt going anywhere unless we're getting a top 5 PG... and thats never going to happen. sooooo.....

[mctyson]

Both Rondo and Bradley are not getting traded, there is no doubt about it

[Celtics4ever]

They play different positions if you can't see that then there is little point in arguing with you and I suspect your a troll.  Thre is plenty of room for both.

[birdwatcher]

To the OP: why?

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

They play different positions if you can't see that then there is little point in arguing with you and I suspect your a troll.  Thre is plenty of room for both.

LOL ... Who are you the troll police? get a life.. Ppl have opinions.. let them express them

[CFAN38]

I think there's a good argument for trading Bradley. His value is very big right now, and if he has a good playoff, it might be the time to sell.

Let's face it, Bradley has been a pleasant surprise, but he has flaws.
 

For such a young player Bradley has really show very few flaws. The only major flaw I see in Avery over the last 2 months is the fact that he is 6'3 185lbs with a 6'7" wingspan not 6'5 200lbs. Aside from the lack of ideal size Avery has a great skill set for a starting SG (especially now that he hits the 3).


Rondo and Bradly need to be the back court of the present and future. If J Green can come back next season and play at the level he did in OK then the Cs should be set at SF for a while. With the lack of quality Centers I would like to see the Celtics play center by committee with Steimsma and another player (cole aldrich?). The PF position will be the spot to try to add an allstar level player to turn the rebuild around fast (P Milsap?)

[Boris Badenov]

I think there's a good argument for trading Bradley. His value is very big right now, and if he has a good playoff, it might be the time to sell.

Let's face it, Bradley has been a pleasant surprise, but he has flaws.
 

For such a young player Bradley has really show very few flaws. The only major flaw I see in Avery over the last 2 months is the fact that he is 6'3 185lbs with a 6'7" wingspan not 6'5 200lbs. Aside from the lack of ideal size Avery has a great skill set for a starting SG (especially now that he hits the 3).

His size is a weakness.

He has not shown that he's capable of creating his own shot (pull-up or drive), due in part to his poor ball-handling skills.

We don't know how serious these will be long-term. But they are issues.

[blink]

I used to think that AB's size was an issue at the 2, but he has consistently played bigger than his size.  Case in point, head turning block on DWade a few games ago, and his improving ability to finish at the rim.  I like it that he is strong, can really dunk hard in traffic and is somewhat fearless in attacking the rim (kind of like Rondo used to be).

I think I would be completely satisfied with Bradley if he spent the summer working every day on his ball handling.  If he can be better with the ball in his hands, wow watch out.  Oh and shooting 500-1000 shots a day in the summer would be good too.

I think there's a good argument for trading Bradley. His value is very big right now, and if he has a good playoff, it might be the time to sell.

Let's face it, Bradley has been a pleasant surprise, but he has flaws.
 

For such a young player Bradley has really show very few flaws. The only major flaw I see in Avery over the last 2 months is the fact that he is 6'3 185lbs with a 6'7" wingspan not 6'5 200lbs. Aside from the lack of ideal size Avery has a great skill set for a starting SG (especially now that he hits the 3).


Rondo and Bradly need to be the back court of the present and future. If J Green can come back next season and play at the level he did in OK then the Cs should be set at SF for a while. With the lack of quality Centers I would like to see the Celtics play center by committee with Steimsma and another player (cole aldrich?). The PF position will be the spot to try to add an allstar level player to turn the rebuild around fast (P Milsap?)

[wiley]

I think there's a good argument for trading Bradley. His value is very big right now, and if he has a good playoff, it might be the time to sell.

Let's face it, Bradley has been a pleasant surprise, but he has flaws.
 

For such a young player Bradley has really show very few flaws. The only major flaw I see in Avery over the last 2 months is the fact that he is 6'3 185lbs with a 6'7" wingspan not 6'5 200lbs. Aside from the lack of ideal size Avery has a great skill set for a starting SG (especially now that he hits the 3).

His size is a weakness.

He has not shown that he's capable of creating his own shot (pull-up or drive), due in part to his poor ball-handling skills.

We don't know how serious these will be long-term. But they are issues.

Yup his size is a weakness.  But if he keeps playing defense and scoring 20 points without being a major focus of the offense, it's one of those weaknesses you live with.  Get your rebounds and paint defense from the bigs and let Avery do his thing even if he gets burned by Gordon Hayward and other 6'8" 2 guards.

He will only get bigger and stronger, which will help with his current low poundage. Not worried at all about that!

Don't want to see them try again to force him to be a PG.  Don't mind if he fills in but I think he's a born 2.

[indeedproceed]

I used to think that AB's size was an issue at the 2, but he has consistently played bigger than his size.  Case in point, head turning block on DWade a few games ago, and his improving ability to finish at the rim.  I like it that he is strong, can really dunk hard in traffic and is somewhat fearless in attacking the rim (kind of like Rondo used to be).

Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade, or...wait. Are there any good 2 guards on the Eastern Conference teams? Joe Johnson. Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade or Joe Johnson, or, for that matter, any 2 guard who knows how to work the paint.

If AB's size is a limitation, that's where it will be exposed; where the pace isn't quite frantic enough to maximize his uber-motor, and the guy he's guarding knows how to score in the post.

[wiley]

I used to think that AB's size was an issue at the 2, but he has consistently played bigger than his size.  Case in point, head turning block on DWade a few games ago, and his improving ability to finish at the rim.  I like it that he is strong, can really dunk hard in traffic and is somewhat fearless in attacking the rim (kind of like Rondo used to be).

Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade, or...wait. Are there any good 2 guards on the Eastern Conference teams? Joe Johnson. Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade or Joe Johnson, or, for that matter, any 2 guard who knows how to work the paint.

If AB's size is a limitation, that's where it will be exposed; where the pace isn't quite frantic enough to maximize his uber-motor, and the guy he's guarding knows how to score in the post.

I'll bet he gets his on offense against those guys, none of whom can keep up with him.

[CelticG1]

I used to think that AB's size was an issue at the 2, but he has consistently played bigger than his size.  Case in point, head turning block on DWade a few games ago, and his improving ability to finish at the rim.  I like it that he is strong, can really dunk hard in traffic and is somewhat fearless in attacking the rim (kind of like Rondo used to be).

Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade, or...wait. Are there any good 2 guards on the Eastern Conference teams? Joe Johnson. Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade or Joe Johnson, or, for that matter, any 2 guard who knows how to work the paint.

If AB's size is a limitation, that's where it will be exposed; where the pace isn't quite frantic enough to maximize his uber-motor, and the guy he's guarding knows how to score in the post.

Joe Johnson plays the 3 this year. As far as Dwayne Wade he will get his no matter who is playing him don't you think? I would at least say that AB can defend Wade better than 50% of NBA SG's and that's downplaying it. What he doesn't have in height he makes up for with quickness, fighting through screens etc. Its not like there are any NBA players that can match his defense along with his quickness.

I just don't see Wade or someone like that abusing AB anymore than they would a different SG

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

I used to think that AB's size was an issue at the 2, but he has consistently played bigger than his size.  Case in point, head turning block on DWade a few games ago, and his improving ability to finish at the rim.  I like it that he is strong, can really dunk hard in traffic and is somewhat fearless in attacking the rim (kind of like Rondo used to be).

Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade, or...wait. Are there any good 2 guards on the Eastern Conference teams? Joe Johnson. Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade or Joe Johnson, or, for that matter, any 2 guard who knows how to work the paint.

If AB's size is a limitation, that's where it will be exposed; where the pace isn't quite frantic enough to maximize his uber-motor, and the guy he's guarding knows how to score in the post.

I'll bet he gets his on offense against those guys, none of whom can keep up with him.

I honestly think Avery Bradley can handle D-Wade, he's just as quick, if not quicker.. its hard for a ball handler to get past Bradley, I don't care who you are...

Joe Johnson is pretty big tho, most certainly will be a tough match up for him.. But if Avery can stay low on defense and make Joe Johnson hesitate to put the ball on the floor, then I think he can do an ok job.

[esel1000]

I used to think that AB's size was an issue at the 2, but he has consistently played bigger than his size.  Case in point, head turning block on DWade a few games ago, and his improving ability to finish at the rim.  I like it that he is strong, can really dunk hard in traffic and is somewhat fearless in attacking the rim (kind of like Rondo used to be).

Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade, or...wait. Are there any good 2 guards on the Eastern Conference teams? Joe Johnson. Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade or Joe Johnson, or, for that matter, any 2 guard who knows how to work the paint.

If AB's size is a limitation, that's where it will be exposed; where the pace isn't quite frantic enough to maximize his uber-motor, and the guy he's guarding knows how to score in the post.

Joe Johnson plays the 3 this year. As far as Dwayne Wade he will get his no matter who is playing him don't you think? I would at least say that AB can defend Wade better than 50% of NBA SG's and that's downplaying it. What he doesn't have in height he makes up for with quickness, fighting through screens etc. Its not like there are any NBA players that can match his defense along with his quickness.

I just don't see Wade or someone like that abusing AB anymore than they would a different SG

haha ill never forget this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34gviEcQCOA

[wiley]

I used to think that AB's size was an issue at the 2, but he has consistently played bigger than his size.  Case in point, head turning block on DWade a few games ago, and his improving ability to finish at the rim.  I like it that he is strong, can really dunk hard in traffic and is somewhat fearless in attacking the rim (kind of like Rondo used to be).

Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade, or...wait. Are there any good 2 guards on the Eastern Conference teams? Joe Johnson. Wait until there is a 7 game playoff series against a D-Wade or Joe Johnson, or, for that matter, any 2 guard who knows how to work the paint.

If AB's size is a limitation, that's where it will be exposed; where the pace isn't quite frantic enough to maximize his uber-motor, and the guy he's guarding knows how to score in the post.

Joe Johnson plays the 3 this year. As far as Dwayne Wade he will get his no matter who is playing him don't you think? I would at least say that AB can defend Wade better than 50% of NBA SG's and that's downplaying it. What he doesn't have in height he makes up for with quickness, fighting through screens etc. Its not like there are any NBA players that can match his defense along with his quickness.

I just don't see Wade or someone like that abusing AB anymore than they would a different SG

Exactly.  When you factor in that those get their points against virtually any defender in the league, it becomes even more sensical to live with AB's smaller size.  Things just have to balance out.  If Avery has 4 steals and consistently makes it difficult for Atlanta to set up their defense, isn't that worth his getting burned a few times by Joe Johnson's height?  Then there is Avery's offense.  If AB isn't scoring at all or scoring very little, then you start to worry about him getting burned a few times at the other end.  I can't wait to see Avery's net positive contribution balance out or even outweigh Joe Johnson's offense.  What a dumb sentence that was but it's true.