Jeff Green>Josh Smith

[Celtics4ever]

Josh Smith has more natural talent and athletic ability but Jeff Green is a better player.

[Moranis]

Some reality is needed here.

In 4 seasons, Jeff Green has shot more three pointers than Josh Smith has in 8 seasons.  Sure he makes them at a bit better rate, but not nearly enough to be worth twice the three pointers a season.  They have almost identical TS% and eFG%, neither of which is all that good.  Smith is a 50% better rebounder, a 50% better steal generator, an almost double passer, and a better than 3 times better shot blocker.   Even the USG% is a lot closer than one would think.

Josh Smith is a significantly better player than Jeff Green was and that was before Jeff Green missed an entire season with a heart related medical condition.  And Smith is only a year older so age isn't a factor, where it is in other situations.

The only reasons to choose Jeff Green over Josh Smith are Green is a free agent and Smith is not (thus to get Smith you probably have to give up value) and Green will likely cost a fair amount less financially than Smith (though who knows what Green will want going forward).

[Roy H.]

Josh Smith is a significantly better player than Jeff Green was and that was before Jeff Green missed an entire season with a heart related medical condition.  And Smith is only a year older so age isn't a factor, where it is in other situations.

Co-sign.  It's good to see fans overrating our players (or at least players we have Bird rights to), but Smith is significantly better.  Green may have a slight edge in outside shooting, but Smith is much, much, much better on defense, he's a better rebounder, he's a better passer, and he's less passive.

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

Josh Smith is a significantly better player than Jeff Green was and that was before Jeff Green missed an entire season with a heart related medical condition.  And Smith is only a year older so age isn't a factor, where it is in other situations.

Co-sign.  It's good to see fans overrating our players (or at least players we have Bird rights to), but Smith is significantly better.  Green may have a slight edge in outside shooting, but Smith is much, much, much better on defense, he's a better rebounder, he's a better passer, and he's less passive.

I wouldn't call him a much much much better defensive player. Smith is better, but Green has all the physical tools to become a defensive force too.  Green has what it takes but circumstances/lack of a true roll/bad luck have plagued Green so far in his career.  I really think at the end of the day, when they both finish off their careers, Green will be considered a better player.

I said similar things about Bradley when 75% of you wanted him out of here.  (Check my posts history).  I'm like a soothsayer, you just needa believe me. 

[wdleehi]

While I don't want Smith on the Celtics because he is makes to much money for what he does, he is clearly the better player then Green.  



I think Green was a starting SF in the NBA as long as you are asking him to be the 4th or 5th option on offense.  At this point, who knows.


Smith is a near all star level PF.  If you could fix his offensive game (bad shots), he could be even better.  

[wdleehi]

Josh Smith is a significantly better player than Jeff Green was and that was before Jeff Green missed an entire season with a heart related medical condition.  And Smith is only a year older so age isn't a factor, where it is in other situations.

Co-sign.  It's good to see fans overrating our players (or at least players we have Bird rights to), but Smith is significantly better.  Green may have a slight edge in outside shooting, but Smith is much, much, much better on defense, he's a better rebounder, he's a better passer, and he's less passive.

I wouldn't call him a much much much better defensive player. Smith is better, but Green has all the physical tools to become a defensive force too.  Green has what it takes but circumstances/lack of a true roll/bad luck have plagued Green so far in his career.  I really think at the end of the day, when they both finish off their careers, Green will be considered a better player.

I said similar things about Bradley when 75% of you wanted him out of here.  (Check my posts history).  I'm like a soothsayer, you just needa believe me. 

Problem is, we have the evidence of Green's defensive ability as a starting PF when he was with the Thunder.  We saw what he was last year off the bench. 


He is not as good as Smith. 

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

Josh Smith is a significantly better player than Jeff Green was and that was before Jeff Green missed an entire season with a heart related medical condition.  And Smith is only a year older so age isn't a factor, where it is in other situations.

Co-sign.  It's good to see fans overrating our players (or at least players we have Bird rights to), but Smith is significantly better.  Green may have a slight edge in outside shooting, but Smith is much, much, much better on defense, he's a better rebounder, he's a better passer, and he's less passive.

I wouldn't call him a much much much better defensive player. Smith is better, but Green has all the physical tools to become a defensive force too.  Green has what it takes but circumstances/lack of a true roll/bad luck have plagued Green so far in his career.  I really think at the end of the day, when they both finish off their careers, Green will be considered a better player.

I said similar things about Bradley when 75% of you wanted him out of here.  (Check my posts history).  I'm like a soothsayer, you just needa believe me. 

Problem is, we have the evidence of Green's defensive ability as a starting PF when he was with the Thunder.  We saw what he was last year off the bench. 


He is not as good as Smith. 

Ok ok ok.. Smith is the better player right now.  He's having a great season this year.  But mark my words, Jeff Green will be an all star. 

If you actually look at the their stats through the first 4 years, they're pretty similar.  So I don't think you can really say Josh Smith is "clearly better" than Jeff Green just yet. 

Everything about them is similar. Same height, almost same weight, both first names start with J, both names equal 9 letters.  Similar games, except Smith is more athletic which is crazy because Jeff Green is hella athletic.  I think Jeff is more suited to play the 3, while Josh is almost certainly a 4 because of his super freakish athleticism.  But I like em both man.  I dunno.  I think Jeff Green will be better when its all said and done because he seems to be the more mentally balanced player lol CC Brandon Bass and Glen Davis.

[green7]

bring back green : SF
bring back bass : PF

^ problem solved

[Fafnir]

How are the stats similar when Smith gets 2.5 more rebounds per 36, 2.5 more assists per 36, and 1.8 more blocks per 36. Not to mention he's an all-defense candidate at the SF/PF position when Jeff Green is good at SF and bad at PF.

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

How are the stats similar when Smith gets 2.5 more rebounds per 36, 2.5 more assists per 36, and 1.8 more blocks per 36. Not to mention he's an all-defense candidate at the SF/PF position when Jeff Green is good at SF and bad at PF.

Smith gets more rebounds and blocks because he's more athletic and is better suited playing the 4.. When Green plays the 4 he is usually outmatched..

Smith gets more assists because he has the ball in his hands a lot, which is also why he averages more turnovers.. I feel Jeff Green is the more efficient player in this sense, im too lazy to look up stats..

I agree that Smith is better than Green right now, but he really isn't that much better considering how both players have been used on their respective teams/systems.  Smith seems to have the green light to do whatever he wants night in and night out (hence his TERRIBLE shot selection), while I feel Green has been more restricted (Playing behind Durant and Westbrook / Paul Pierce and KG)

But i still stand by my opinion that given the right situation Jeff Green will be a stud in a year or two and will end up having the better career.. I have nothing solid to back that up with, its just how I feel.. I'm not too sold on this whole J-Smoove movement Celticsblog has been on lately.

[Moranis]

Josh Smith is a significantly better player than Jeff Green was and that was before Jeff Green missed an entire season with a heart related medical condition.  And Smith is only a year older so age isn't a factor, where it is in other situations.

Co-sign.  It's good to see fans overrating our players (or at least players we have Bird rights to), but Smith is significantly better.  Green may have a slight edge in outside shooting, but Smith is much, much, much better on defense, he's a better rebounder, he's a better passer, and he's less passive.

I wouldn't call him a much much much better defensive player. Smith is better, but Green has all the physical tools to become a defensive force too.  Green has what it takes but circumstances/lack of a true roll/bad luck have plagued Green so far in his career.  I really think at the end of the day, when they both finish off their careers, Green will be considered a better player.

I said similar things about Bradley when 75% of you wanted him out of here.  (Check my posts history).  I'm like a soothsayer, you just needa believe me. 

Problem is, we have the evidence of Green's defensive ability as a starting PF when he was with the Thunder.  We saw what he was last year off the bench. 


He is not as good as Smith. 

Ok ok ok.. Smith is the better player right now.  He's having a great season this year.  But mark my words, Jeff Green will be an all star. 

If you actually look at the their stats through the first 4 years, they're pretty similar.  So I don't think you can really say Josh Smith is "clearly better" than Jeff Green just yet. 

Everything about them is similar. Same height, almost same weight, both first names start with J, both names equal 9 letters.  Similar games, except Smith is more athletic which is crazy because Jeff Green is hella athletic.  I think Jeff is more suited to play the 3, while Josh is almost certainly a 4 because of his super freakish athleticism.  But I like em both man.  I dunno.  I think Jeff Green will be better when its all said and done because he seems to be the more mentally balanced player lol CC Brandon Bass and Glen Davis.

Josh Smith came from high school.  If you actually compare their performance at any given age (not their years in the league), then Josh Smith has significantly better numbers than Jeff Green. 

[Fafnir]

Jeff Green averages just as many shots as Josh Smith, he had the ball a lot in OKC.

As for turnovers, Smith has a much better assist to turnover ratio, and his turnover percentage around 14% isn't good, but isn't awful.

I guess I don't get how you can defend Jeff Green's poor rebounding as he's overmatched at the PF position. Who cares, at either position (and Josh Smith can play both) Smith is a + rebounder, Jeff green is either adequete or awful.

Jeff Green could be a stud, if suddenly playing SF causes him to make a big leap after being in the league four years (and getting heavy minutes each year).

[Moranis]

How are the stats similar when Smith gets 2.5 more rebounds per 36, 2.5 more assists per 36, and 1.8 more blocks per 36. Not to mention he's an all-defense candidate at the SF/PF position when Jeff Green is good at SF and bad at PF.

Smith gets more rebounds and blocks because he's more athletic and is better suited playing the 4.. When Green plays the 4 he is usually outmatched..

Smith gets more assists because he has the ball in his hands a lot, which is also why he averages more turnovers.. I feel Jeff Green is the more efficient player in this sense, im too lazy to look up stats..

I agree that Smith is better than Green right now, but he really isn't that much better considering how both players have been used on their respective teams/systems.  Smith seems to have the green light to do whatever he wants night in and night out (hence his TERRIBLE shot selection), while I feel Green has been more restricted (Playing behind Durant and Westbrook / Paul Pierce and KG)

But i still stand by my opinion that given the right situation Jeff Green will be a stud in a year or two and will end up having the better career.. I have nothing solid to back that up with, its just how I feel.. I'm not too sold on this whole J-Smoove movement Celticsblog has been on lately.

Josh Smith averages 1.2 three pointers a game for his career.  He has been above that the last two years, but not way way above it (2 last year, 1.7 this year), and frankly most of those are open or in the offensive flow (he doesn't make them, but you can't always pass up the open shot like Rondo does).  His percentage is down a bit this year, but that is because Horford is out, Johnson is getting old, and Crawford is gone: thus he is the focus of the offense.  Back when Johnson was clicking, Horford was playing, and Crawford was around, Smith had a much better percentage.

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

Jeff Green averages just as many shots as Josh Smith, he had the ball a lot in OKC.

As for turnovers, Smith has a much better assist to turnover ratio, and his turnover percentage around 14% isn't good, but isn't awful.

I guess I don't get how you can defend Jeff Green's poor rebounding as he's overmatched at the PF position. Who cares, at either position (and Josh Smith can play both) Smith is a + rebounder, Jeff green is either adequete or awful.

Jeff Green could be a stud, if suddenly playing SF causes him to make a big leap after being in the league four years (and getting heavy minutes each year).

I think it can.. If he just played the 3, he'd overpower almost every other 3 in the league causing a ton of mismatch problems and he might be able to force some double teams.. Put him at the 3 and post him up I say.  He's quick and long enough to defend almost every small forward in the NBA and I don't think any 3 in the league can handle his physicality in the post besides Brawn Bron. And although the stats are similar, I feel Jeff Green is the better outside shooter.

Plus if we keep Bass, KG, bring back Wilcox, we don't need him to be a big anymore.  He can just be our Big 3... get it?

If we somehow lost Bass, then I'd be all for J-Smoove coming to Boston.  But I feel Green will fit in just fine as our Big 3 off the bench, with Pietrus as our Big 2, and Rondo and Bradley as our small ball backcourt.  We'd be stacked either way.

[Fafnir]

He played SF for the C's, while he did have some success with the C's in transition and posting up, he wasn't overpowering at the position. His rebounding wasn't overpowering for the position and he didn't get to the line anymore than he did in OKC.