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Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2012, 06:56:49 PM »

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Its a screwed up team for sure, maybe he was smart not to be part of it all anymore. 

Amaire seems bent over , and older everytime I see him on TV...he looks 30 years past his age.

Melo is a team and coach killer

Both with huge contracts

Not looking good for the Knicks.

No wthe poor coach is gone , they need to dump Melo ASAP.

Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2012, 07:26:25 PM »

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What? This has to be the most ungenerous assement of a coach who changed the careers of more NBA players than anyone of his generation, Stoudemire, Marion, Lee, Richardson, Diaw... JEREMY LIN, only the sports season's single best storyline.

What has he ever won?  The Knicks this year didn't win.  Lin made himself a player it is not like D'Antoni recognized his talent.  He was down to his last option and tried him.   But he was not his first choice.  What are you his brother?

Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2012, 07:34:11 PM »

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I'm glad he's gone. I don't care what he's done with Steve Nash and Amare, he's one of the worst coaches in the NBA

Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2012, 07:41:01 PM »

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What? This has to be the most ungenerous assement of a coach who changed the careers of more NBA players than anyone of his generation, Stoudemire, Marion, Lee, Richardson, Diaw... JEREMY LIN, only the sports season's single best storyline.

What has he ever won?  The Knicks this year didn't win.  Lin made himself a player it is not like D'Antoni recognized his talent.  He was down to his last option and tried him.   But he was not his first choice.  What are you his brother?

Charles Barkley never won a championship should he not be a hall of famer?

Jerry Sloan never coached a team to a title, is he not a good coach?

Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2012, 07:47:26 PM »

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I'm glad he's gone. I don't care what he's done with Steve Nash and Amare, he's one of the worst coaches in the NBA

Before I start my rant; we're throwing out that he turned a fringe all star into a two time MVP and at least helped Amare become dominant, anything else we should leave out? Western Conference Finals, maybe? Getting gold out of players who've done next to nothing outside his system? Leave that out?


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« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2012, 08:10:56 PM »

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I was dying for a retort by now, but you guys have got me fired up enough where I don't care and I'm just going to rant:

I don't understand WHY - in sports in particular - when someone provides a unique perspective that they're put under so much scrutiny.

There are, what, TWENTY SEVEN head coaches in the league that haven't coached their teams to a championship yet; most of which haven't and quite frankly probably won't even begin to sniff the type of success Mike D'Antoni has in his coaching career.

He coaches his teams to have a strategical advantage over his opponents and when he's got the parts it turns into a success. Turned Nash into an MVP, multiple Western Conference appearances. But because he hasn't cleared that final hurdle, something FEW have been able to do he's and he's absolute failure?!

It's not 'the team needed just one extra player' or 'his teams ran into some great teams' or 'if his player didn't get suspended in a playoff game he'd be a champion, and forever remembered as a great' (because surely coaching legacies haven't been built off of isolated championships around here). No. The guys is a failure, his system is stupid, and it couldn't possibly work.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2012, 08:19:26 PM »

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I was dying for a retort by now, but you guys have got me fired up enough where I don't care and I'm just going to rant:

I don't understand WHY - in sports in particular - when someone provides a unique perspective that they're put under so much scrutiny.

There are, what, TWENTY SEVEN head coaches in the league that haven't coached their teams to a championship yet; most of which haven't and quite frankly probably won't even begin to sniff the type of success Mike D'Antoni has in his coaching career.

He coaches his teams to have a strategical advantage over his opponents and when he's got the parts it turns into a success. Turned Nash into an MVP, multiple Western Conference appearances. But because he hasn't cleared that final hurdle, something FEW have been able to do he's an absolute failure?!

It's not 'the team needed just one extra player' or 'his teams ran into some great teams' or 'if his player didn't get suspended in a playoff game he'd be a champion, and forever remembered as a great' (because surely coaching legacies haven't been built off of isolated championships around here). No. The guys is a failure, his system is stupid, and it couldn't possibly work.

Bravo - TP.  It's pretty reactionary and more than a little lazy, and I caught myself doing it earlier.  D'Antoni changed the league and has been more successful than not.  Not everybody can have a fi****l of rings. 

EDIT: Haha, a "full fist".  Best filter feature ever!

I was about to write a tandem rant about Carmelo but then I remembered I'm still pretty lazy, so I'll just say that a guy who's been the best player on every team he's played on, won a college championship as a freshman, made the WCF and has never had a losing season (yet) is one heck of a "team killer" and "loser".  A lot of franchises would kill for those kinds of problems. 

Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2012, 08:22:36 PM »

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He should have taken the offer in Chicago when he had the chance. Too bad, I like him, not sure he's a coach who wins you a tittle but seems like a nice guy.

  I've always found him to be a whiny jerk.

Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2012, 08:26:07 PM »

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I'm just going to put this really simply.  If Doc Rivers decides to retire for some reason and the Celtics go on a massive, long-term rebuilding plan where they would go after personnel who fit a new coach's system, would you be happy if Mike D'Antoni was being talked about as a possible replacement for Doc?
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2012, 08:28:36 PM »

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I'm just going to put this really simply.  If Doc Rivers decides to retire for some reason and the Celtics go on a massive, long-term rebuilding plan where they would go after personnel who fit a new coach's system, would you be happy if Mike D'Antoni was being talked about as a possible replacement for Doc?
No

I don't like hiring coaches who run extreme systems when rebuilding. Limits your options.

Then again, if the team already had the personnel in place required to run D'Antoni's system ... and flourish under his system ... I would be happy to hire him.

Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2012, 08:41:06 PM »

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the problem is Melo, not D'antoni....the question now becomes was it that melo couldnt fit in D'antonis system? or is he a selfish ball-hog with questionable shot selection who stagnates the offense.

could be a mixture of both...but, the fact is since the Melo trade, the Denver Nuggets record improved, while the Knicks became a below .500team

not to mention the knicks went on a WINNING streak with Melo out...he comes bback?? linsanity is over




Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #71 on: March 14, 2012, 08:50:11 PM »

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I'm just going to put this really simply.  If Doc Rivers decides to retire for some reason and the Celtics go on a massive, long-term rebuilding plan where they would go after personnel who fit a new coach's system, would you be happy if Mike D'Antoni was being talked about as a possible replacement for Doc?
No

I don't like hiring coaches who run extreme systems when rebuilding. Limits your options.

Then again, if the team already had the personnel in place required to run D'Antoni's system ... and flourish under his system ... I would be happy to hire him.

No don't hire Pringles. You want to consistently emphasise defense. Pringles WANTS players to switch on the defensive end.


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Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #72 on: March 14, 2012, 09:25:54 PM »

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Wasn't D'antoni opposed to the big Melo trade with Denver....
That was probably the beginning of the end of his chance at turning
New York around...

Dolan should have traded Melo just like D'antoni suggested...
He went the wrong way on that mismatch.

Next coach out of the booth Jeff Van Gundy?  He was very pro-bring Melo to New York as if that trade was a no-brainer.  Let's see what he can do with Melo.

His offensive is not boring as some have suggested.  It may have limited plays but that is made up for by the freedom the PG gets.  Rondo would probably do well in it but agree other personnel would also have to be place...

Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #73 on: March 14, 2012, 10:06:59 PM »

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Looks like the Knicks aren't too unhappy about it - they just beat Portland by 42.

Re: Mike D'Antoni Resigns
« Reply #74 on: March 14, 2012, 10:07:52 PM »

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Looks like the Knicks aren't too unhappy about it - they just beat Portland by 42.
Portland is a train wreck. What the heck is happening to them?