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Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2012, 03:14:47 AM »

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My take?

Watch NBATV, my friend.

They did a fine job of explaining the significance of what Rajon Rondo did, to me. It appeared to be fair, too - with no preferential treatment.
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Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2012, 04:02:50 AM »

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Rondo also played elite defense. 
Um, yeah. No, he didn't.

Did you watch the game?  At least go look at Lin and Davis stats before denying the obvious.
I watched the game. Did you?

For starters, Lin was riding the bench most of the time because of foul trouble. Despite that, he still managed to almost bring the Knicks back with a couple of timely plays in the fourth quarter.

Regardless, that's not the big concern defensively about Rondo. You must have missed the part when Baron Davis was getting wide open jumpers because Rondo was lurking in the paint under our own basket looking for his tenth rebound.

You are still harping about him backing off a 32% three point shooter like it cost us the game. I still can't believe you said that he was padding his stats.
Have you noticed that Rondo often drifts from his player to try and anticipate the rebound? I re watched the game and you are over blowing this particular play so much for some reason.

I think you should watch the game again and try and critique Rondo with an open mind.
Can you provide some more examples in this game in which Rondo tries to pad his stats?
I no, I don't want to hear about the Baron Davis jump shot for the 6th time.

17 18 20. 20 assists and you're suggesting he's out there for his own benefit.
You still haven't given examples of him padding his stats.
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Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2012, 04:04:14 AM »

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Not surprised. It's ESPN, though. Only reason I go there is to check for averages for the PAPOUPG  ;D

Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2012, 04:06:17 AM »

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D Will scored 57 points against Augustin, Walker and the Bobcats as a the first and only scoring option.  Rondo had 17 rebounds against Chandler, Stoudemire and Melo as a point guard.  Rondo also played elite defense. 

TP. Thats what I thought too.
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Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2012, 05:39:08 AM »

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Wow... I wouldn't be surprised about ESPN disrespecting Rondo and/or the Celtics anymore. They just don't fit into their mold of "I-wanna-be-like-Mike" SuperStars, because when they play their game it means unselfishness, team ball, and as Doc uses to yell at them "you want to win, but you gotta do it TOGETHER!".

ESPN loves hero ball, the clutch last second shots that define the great players and highlights on Sportscenter. You could say they've defined the way of the modern era sports media, and as much as you can hate that, they've succeeded at their goal.

Rondo will hardly give you that clutchness, so we tend to dismiss what he does on the court, because he's not like the Captain. And yet we'll argue who was the MVP of the game, and for me that's a silly question. Basketball is a team game, and every second counts, not just the last 20 seconds.

I love Rondo, and some time ago I posted here he's this era's Cousy, and I still believe the Celtics are looking for their new Russell to pair with Rondo. They'll probably won't find him, because Russell was the absolutely greatest basketball player of all time. But you can see Ainge is trying.

I loved the Westbrick nickname... here there's an anti-Rondo guy, who is an athletic freak and a good shooter. A lot of people think he's better than Rondo, but in my book Westbrook is a scorer, and he wouldn't look good on the Celtics old squad. There's only one basketball.

Rondo shouldn't be so inconsistent, and if he could make his shoots on a nightly basis he'd probably receive far less criticism. You can't bring your A-game every night in the regular season if your best assets are restricted to physical play. You need to make shoots to get a pass for playing mediocre ball.

It won't be easy for him to bring a consistent jumpshot, so I think he will be disrespected troughout his career. I don't need him to be what sports media call a "superstar", I'm ok with him playing Celtics ball and trying hard every night. He's a true Celtic and we just need a great big man and some scorers (those aren't that hard to find) to build a Dinasty.

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Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2012, 06:59:32 AM »

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Watching highlights of a guy scoring 57 points is better TV than highlights of a guy notching a triple double. It's about appealing to the masses. Finding the best highlight package to that.

It has nothing to do with respect or achievement. Just what makes better TV; what appeals to the largest audience.

Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2012, 07:30:19 AM »

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I think that ESPN gets it wrong, sometimes.

They thought, evidently, that Lebron's "Decision" would appeal to viewers.

Boy did they get that wrong, IMO. What a disaster. How in the world did they think that such a thing would appeal to folks? I don't care if he said "I'm taking my talents to the City of Boston", to be honest.

Any reason why Lebron still shows up on some "Most disliked Athlete" lists to this day?

It's about Delivery.

Why don't ESPN step out on faith and try a different approach sometimes? I bet they'd be surprised to see what appeals to whom.

Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2012, 04:43:07 PM »

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Watching highlights of a guy scoring 57 points is better TV than highlights of a guy notching a triple double. It's about appealing to the masses. Finding the best highlight package to that.

It has nothing to do with respect or achievement. Just what makes better TV; what appeals to the largest audience.
this is a good point.

Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2012, 08:42:05 PM »

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ESPN gave Rondo plenty of coverage. Also, the Celts game was on national TV where all they did was talk about Rondo's performance after the game and at halftime during the Laker game.

NBA TV generally does a better overall job if you're trying to get analysis of games and players, but I don't think there's a lack of Rondo love on ESPN.
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Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2012, 08:47:19 PM »

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One thing about that game for Rondo was the plus minus was off.  Did anybody else notice this?  It just looked weird.

Ray Allen played 45 minutes and had a plus minus of +22.
Rondo played 48 minutes and had a plus minus of +5.
All the bench players had negative values

Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2012, 09:15:34 PM »

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I think that ESPN gets it wrong, sometimes.

They thought, evidently, that Lebron's "Decision" would appeal to viewers.

Boy did they get that wrong, IMO. What a disaster. How in the world did they think that such a thing would appeal to folks? I don't care if he said "I'm taking my talents to the City of Boston", to be honest.

Any reason why Lebron still shows up on some "Most disliked Athlete" lists to this day?

It's about Delivery.

Why don't ESPN step out on faith and try a different approach sometimes? I bet they'd be surprised to see what appeals to whom.

I think this depends how you look at it.  It certainly made the Heat the villains, but I believe the Miami-Dallas finals had one of the highest TV ratings for an NBA finals in quite some time.     
ESPN's job is to create drama and interest among casual fans. 

I can hardly bear to watch ESPN due to their ridiculous sensationalist, star worship approach to NBA coverage.

For nuts like us there's NBA TV.   
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Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2012, 09:07:47 AM »

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I think that ESPN gets it wrong, sometimes.

They thought, evidently, that Lebron's "Decision" would appeal to viewers.

Boy did they get that wrong, IMO. What a disaster. How in the world did they think that such a thing would appeal to folks? I don't care if he said "I'm taking my talents to the City of Boston", to be honest.

Any reason why Lebron still shows up on some "Most disliked Athlete" lists to this day?

It's about Delivery.

Why don't ESPN step out on faith and try a different approach sometimes? I bet they'd be surprised to see what appeals to whom.

I think this depends how you look at it.  It certainly made the Heat the villains, but I believe the Miami-Dallas finals had one of the highest TV ratings for an NBA finals in quite some time.     
ESPN's job is to create drama and interest among casual fans. 

I can hardly bear to watch ESPN due to their ridiculous sensationalist, star worship approach to NBA coverage.

For nuts like us there's NBA TV.   
The Decision was a huge success. It appealed to tons of people. The ratings were crazy and it's still talked about. There's a difference between people liking something and finding it appealing. People love to hate Lebron. ESPN has had years worth of story lines revolving around Lebron in large part because of The Decision. I'm sure they are thrilled by the way things turned out. Lebron? Not so much.
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Re: Rondo disrespected
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2012, 09:35:13 AM »

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I think that ESPN gets it wrong, sometimes.

They thought, evidently, that Lebron's "Decision" would appeal to viewers.

Boy did they get that wrong, IMO. What a disaster. How in the world did they think that such a thing would appeal to folks? I don't care if he said "I'm taking my talents to the City of Boston", to be honest.

Any reason why Lebron still shows up on some "Most disliked Athlete" lists to this day?

It's about Delivery.

Why don't ESPN step out on faith and try a different approach sometimes? I bet they'd be surprised to see what appeals to whom.

I think this depends how you look at it.  It certainly made the Heat the villains, but I believe the Miami-Dallas finals had one of the highest TV ratings for an NBA finals in quite some time.     
ESPN's job is to create drama and interest among casual fans. 

I can hardly bear to watch ESPN due to their ridiculous sensationalist, star worship approach to NBA coverage.

For nuts like us there's NBA TV.   
The Decision was a huge success. It appealed to tons of people. The ratings were crazy and it's still talked about. There's a difference between people liking something and finding it appealing. People love to hate Lebron. ESPN has had years worth of story lines revolving around Lebron in large part because of The Decision. I'm sure they are thrilled by the way things turned out. Lebron? Not so much.

Good points, Omar and Celtics18.

But I think that if Lebron had his choice, he'd be loved like Michael was (and still is).

I don't recall Michael being the villain during his heyday - BUT: Michael also enjoyed Championship success eventually, too.

Lebron? The jury is still out on him, unfortunately. And I bet that if he had said "I'm taking my talents back to CLE", he'd be a hero to this day.
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