Bad Year for Perk

[SHAQATTACK]

I totally disagree with OP...Watched him last night , hes doing a good job, and that isn't to be a offensive weapon. OKC is loaded.  

Perk does his job nearly flawless.  He is guarding the paint, clogging up the middle,  getting in the opponents hair, not backing down.  Picking up garbage rebounds .

Durrant is fragile guy who looks like a twig.  Perk plays defense inside for him cause Durrant is too valuable a shooter to get hurt ruffhousing inside.

Even if Perk never scores point one.  Iknow now DA was a FOOL for trading him off .  We could use that big wide body to clog up the middle ourselves.

We'll be missing him against Lopez.

[bigjohnson34st]

The Thunder will need Perk to get past the Lakers, Clips, Mavs in the playoffs. They didnt overpay. We would have #18 had we "overpayed".

No we wouldn't. Our bench was terrible last season.  Everyone conveniently forgets how awful the bench was prior to the trade.

How can we.  The bench was awful after the trade.



I totally disagree. Lebron and Wade walked through the paint the whole series then drained 3's because we had to back off. Besides, as bad as our bench was Miami's was 2x's worse. More importantly. Miami punked us without Perk. Miami gave all the hard fouls. Ala Rondo's broken elbow. Wade and the heat did to us what we used to do to teams when we had Perk.

[indeedproceed]

I'm pretty sure that was our first regular-season game against Detroit.

True indeed.

This is just wacky to me, because in my head I'd clearly filed it under the 2008 playoffs against the Pistons.

Just goes to show you how high the expectations were by December that season. Losing a game, any game, felt like the end of the world.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBPQT2Ia8fU

(yes, when I was trying to remember the song, I pictured Priscilla Presley in Naked Gun singing it)

[LooseCannon]

I'm not a huge fan of PER, but I do like win shares and especially WS48 as a single-number, quick-and-dirty stat for rough comparisons.  By that number, Perkins at 0.036 WS48 is having the worst year of his career.  He's having a career year in free throw percentage, but his eFG% is at a career low, his rebounding percentage is at a career low, and it looks like he probably won't recover to blocking shots as well as he did pre-injury.

If you thought that Perkins was unlikely to get better and likely to get worse, with a possible career trajectory and aging pattern similar to Jamaal Magloire, would you be happy with his contract?

[ChiefDK]

I'm not a huge fan of PER, but I do like win shares and especially WS48 as a single-number, quick-and-dirty stat for rough comparisons.  By that number, Perkins at 0.036 WS48 is having the worst year of his career.  He's having a career year in free throw percentage, but his eFG% is at a career low, his rebounding percentage is at a career low, and it looks like he probably won't recover to blocking shots as well as he did pre-injury.

If you thought that Perkins was unlikely to get better and likely to get worse, with a possible career trajectory and aging pattern similar to Jamaal Magloire, would you be happy with his contract?

Right, he's regressed in every key defensive category on a per minute basis since his last 2 full healthy seasons in Boston. If the Cs had signed him to that contract, they would be trying to dump him, as they are going in a different direction than OKC.

He will be of use to OKC this year and perhaps next, but after that unlikely.

People here suggesting that he is the reason they have the best record in the west are delusional.

[vinnie]

This is what I know. Kendrick Perkins is still the starting center on a team with the best record in the NBA. I should also point out that this team has been missing its starting shooting guard for more than a month, and its backup point guard is out for the year. You would think that since Perk is such a horrendous player, Scott Brooks would replace him in the lineup. Brooks must be a terrible coach for not doing so. I saw with my own eyes the impact Perk has on this team in the game last night against Orlando.

[Freeease1]

Perk was a starter on a championship team  and one that went to two NBA finals here in Boston.
Perks is now a starter on OKC who has the best record in the NBA. what else do we need to say about him?
as far as the trade we got to players Kristic) a backup C )  who left us high and dry and Jeff Green. we still have time to tell if green will pan out.
Finally perk has value for OKC as a starting center which free segrio Ibarka to do his thing. No mattter his stats his worth is determie by the team he is playing on and in both cases his stats did not tell the whole story.

[Weediam]

Couldn't disagree more with the OP.

Perk does the intangibles that don't show up on stat sheets. Watch him box out and tell me if anyone on the Celts does this. Ibaka is successful because of Perk, Perk's ability to rotate and play stiff D allow Ibaka to roam and get all the blocks he does.

Watched him on Dwight last night, shut him down in the 4th quarter...man I miss having that shut-down big man on D!

[ChiefDK]

Perk was a starter on a championship team  and one that went to two NBA finals here in Boston.
Perks is now a starter on OKC who has the best record in the NBA. what else do we need to say about him?
as far as the trade we got to players Kristic) a backup C )  who left us high and dry and Jeff Green. we still have time to tell if green will pan out.
Finally perk has value for OKC as a starting center which free segrio Ibarka to do his thing. No mattter his stats his worth is determie by the team he is playing on and in both cases his stats did not tell the whole story.

Right - nothing to do with Durant, Westbrook, Harden. They'd be a .500 without Perk. Riiight..

[Celtics18]

Couldn't disagree more with the OP.

Perk does the intangibles that don't show up on stat sheets. Watch him box out and tell me if anyone on the Celts does this. Ibaka is successful because of Perk, Perk's ability to rotate and play stiff D allow Ibaka to roam and get all the blocks he does.

Watched him on Dwight last night, shut him down in the 4th quarter...man I miss having that shut-down big man on D!

We still have one of the top defenses in the league.  Yet, I keep reading how much our interior defense stinks.  It doesn't add up.

[LooseCannon]

Right - nothing to do with Durant, Westbrook, Harden. They'd be a .500 without Perk. Riiight..

I'd say they'd probably have the same record with Jermaine O'Neal instead of Perk.

[Celtics18]

Right - nothing to do with Durant, Westbrook, Harden. They'd be a .500 without Perk. Riiight..

I'd say they'd probably have the same record with Jermaine O'Neal instead of Perk.

As would we with Perk instead of JO.

[LB3533]

Right - nothing to do with Durant, Westbrook, Harden. They'd be a .500 without Perk. Riiight..

I'd say they'd probably have the same record with Jermaine O'Neal instead of Perk.

As would we with Perk instead of JO.

I dunno, if we still had Perk, Rondo would be happier and smiling.

Rondo smiles are worth at least 10 victories alone.

[mctyson]

I'm not a huge fan of PER, but I do like win shares and especially WS48 as a single-number, quick-and-dirty stat for rough comparisons.  By that number, Perkins at 0.036 WS48 is having the worst year of his career.  He's having a career year in free throw percentage, but his eFG% is at a career low, his rebounding percentage is at a career low, and it looks like he probably won't recover to blocking shots as well as he did pre-injury.

If you thought that Perkins was unlikely to get better and likely to get worse, with a possible career trajectory and aging pattern similar to Jamaal Magloire, would you be happy with his contract?

I completely agree with the OP.  I am unabashed fan of the Perkins trade.  Even in retrospect I would still do it - we still got a 1st round pick out of it, and remember Perkins, the superstar that he is, was drafted 27th.

Perkins is way, way, way overpaid.  And that's just the 1st year of his contract!  Does anyone here think he will be on the floor in crunch time when the Thunder are in the playoffs?

OKC is the best team in the league because of Durant and Westbrook.  Semih Erden could be their starting center and they'd have a 80% winning percentage.

[Redz]

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Right - nothing to do with Durant, Westbrook, Harden. They'd be a .500 without Perk. Riiight..

I'd say they'd probably have the same record with Jermaine O'Neal instead of Perk.

As would we with Perk instead of JO.

I dunno, if we still had Perk, Rondo would be happier and smiling.

Rondo smiles are worth at least 10 victories alone.

very sad how true that entire statement is