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Bad Year for Perk
« on: March 02, 2012, 12:50:52 PM »

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He's having he's worst year since becoming a starter by far. He has a 7.2 PER. Everyone was quick to criticize this deal but I would not be happy if Ainge had signed him long-term like OKC did. He has "amnesty" written all over him.

I do miss his toughness though. And too bad about Jeff Green, otherwise we would know for sure whether this deal worked for the Cs.   

Re: Bad Year for Perk
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 12:52:11 PM »

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He's having a poor year statistically.  In terms of fitting a necessary role on that team, though, I think the Thunder are thrilled.


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Re: Bad Year for Perk
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2012, 12:57:20 PM »

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You can look at stats all you want. He was never a stat guy in Boston. The fact is that since the trade, the Thunder are officially one of the best teams in the league and we are teetering at mediocrity. The only stat that truely matters in the NBA is the win column. He's doing great in that one.

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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2012, 12:57:53 PM »

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He's having a poor year statistically.  In terms of fitting a necessary role on that team, though, I think the Thunder are thrilled.
Thrilled might be a bit of an overstatement.  But when you have young stars like Durant and Westbrook, having someone like Perk can work well.  In Boston moving forward, paired with Rondo (potentially), it would not have worked as well.

This deal could have helped both teams (which is what trades are supposed to be about) but we may never know.

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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 12:59:50 PM »

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As stated perk's stats were never earth shattering.  I'm happy he got a good paycheck.  His value will be down once this contract ends, I feel they overpaid for a low post defender.  As I always said if he could get his rebounding numbers to 9-10 then its a different story

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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 01:02:20 PM »

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You can look at stats all you want. He was never a stat guy in Boston. The fact is that since the trade, the Thunder are officially one of the best teams in the league and we are teetering at mediocrity. The only stat that truely matters in the NBA is the win column. He's doing great in that one.

I think the Thunder would be a top 3 team in the league with or without him. They are a young team that is simply fulfilling their potential. However, he does bring that "edge" that will help them in the playoffs.

Boston would probably be 2-3 games better with him, but it wouldn't change the end result.

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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2012, 01:06:35 PM »

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You can look at stats all you want. He was never a stat guy in Boston. The fact is that since the trade, the Thunder are officially one of the best teams in the league and we are teetering at mediocrity. The only stat that truely matters in the NBA is the win column. He's doing great in that one.

I think the Thunder would be a top 3 team in the league with or without him. They are a young team that is simply fulfilling their potential. However, he does bring that "edge" that will help them in the playoffs.

Boston would probably be 2-3 games better with him, but it wouldn't change the end result.


Then why did it take the trade for their record to show that?

Re: Bad Year for Perk
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 01:10:36 PM »

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The Thunder will need Perk to get past the Lakers, Clips, Mavs in the playoffs. They didnt overpay. We would have #18 had we "overpayed".

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Looks like Perk's rebounding numbers have been trending upwards as the season has progressed.

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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2012, 01:18:20 PM »

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This trade will live in Celts infamy forever because we can never fully judge the outcome. Jeff Greene's health was something that no one anticipated.

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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2012, 01:43:57 PM »

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I'm going to have to attribute OKC's success to having 2 top 15 players on their roster in Durant and Westbrook, and maybe the best 6th man in the league right now in Harden.  OKC wanted to trade Green to free up playing time for Ibaka who is an absolute beast.  If you want to look at a role player who is truly making a significant contribution it's Ibaka.  Perk is just along for the ride.

Perk's PER is not only the worst (by far) of any starting center, it's also one of the worst in the league.  Now given that, if you're still saying stats don't matter for a guy like Perk (I mean what the heck is that supposed to mean?), then the reality is there is absolutely nothing that would convince you Perk is a below average player.

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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2012, 01:44:37 PM »

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Did you see Perk play Howard last night? He was banging Dwight all over the place and clearly Dwight didn't like it. And I am sure OKC is extremely unhappy with Perk and their 29-7 record, tied for the best in the NBA. Sometimes stats can be highly overrated.

If you watch OKC, they almost NEVER pass the ball to Perk. He is there to set screens, get rebounds and play defense. Nothing more.

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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2012, 01:52:17 PM »

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You can look at stats all you want. He was never a stat guy in Boston. The fact is that since the trade, the Thunder are officially one of the best teams in the league and we are teetering at mediocrity. The only stat that truely matters in the NBA is the win column. He's doing great in that one.


I think the Thunder would be a top 3 team in the league with or without him. They are a young team that is simply fulfilling their potential. However, he does bring that "edge" that will help them in the playoffs.

Boston would probably be 2-3 games better with him, but it wouldn't change the end result.


Then why did it take the trade for their record to show that?

As I said before, this is a team that is still improving due to their age and talent. I attribute their improvement since the Perk trade more to that than Perk himself.

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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2012, 01:56:52 PM »

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The Thunder will need Perk to get past the Lakers, Clips, Mavs in the playoffs. They didnt overpay. We would have #18 had we "overpayed".

Wow, give me a break. No way the Cs would have won last year, with or without bill Russ.., I mean Perk.

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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2012, 02:02:29 PM »

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The Thunder will need Perk to get past the Lakers, Clips, Mavs in the playoffs. They didnt overpay. We would have #18 had we "overpayed".
No we wouldn't. Our bench was terrible last season.  Everyone conveniently forgets how awful the bench was prior to the trade.