Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward

[heitingas]

I think you have to start Beasley and play him 32-35 minutes a night if you bring him in.

I don't think he is the type of player who will do well in a bench role. Needs minutes.

But he would easily get starter minutes off the bench backing up the 3-4, he could also play with Pierce and the latter playing SG.
That will keep Ray fresh, then we got Pietrus backing up the 2-3.

[greenlion]

beasley has upsides, but i have to doubt the consistency of his game..abilities are there but sadly not fully tapped, why? he has been known as a headcase back in miami and has fallen out of favor from adelman because of some attitude and these are hints of what to expect if ever he comes over..with a strong coach and stronger teammates, i hope those problems would be addressed..

[Celts Fan 92]

Keep the pick....I want to see whats behind curtain this draft.

this draft sucks thats wat yall dont get have a look at how terrible the quality of college basketball is yall wanna tank for players who aint fully developed

[Eja117]

I could definitely see Ainge bringing in Beasley, then trying to turn around and say to D Howard

"There. Now we got Rondo, a healthy Green coming back, and we got the bird rights to bring back Beas. Plus we have two draft picks and Paul Pierce. KG and Ray say they'll come back for a lot less money if you come here. That gives us

Rondo/Avery
Ray/draft pick/E Moore
Kg/Beas/JuJuan J
D Howard/draft pick
Pierce/Green

How does that team not compete in a big way, now and in the future?

[aporel#18]

I could definitely see Ainge bringing in Beasley, then trying to turn around and say to D Howard

"There. Now we got Rondo, a health Green coming back, and we got the bird rights to bring back Beas. Plus we have two draft picks and Paul Pierce. KG and Ray say they'll come back for a lot less money if you come here. That gives us

Rondo/Avery
Ray/draft pick
Kg/Beas/JuJuan J
D Howard/draft pick
Pierce/Green

How does that team not compete in a big way, now and in the future?

+1000

TP

[jarufu]

I could definitely see Ainge bringing in Beasley, then trying to turn around and say to D Howard

"There. Now we got Rondo, a health Green coming back, and we got the bird rights to bring back Beas. Plus we have two draft picks and Paul Pierce. KG and Ray say they'll come back for a lot less money if you come here. That gives us

Rondo/Avery
Ray/draft pick
Kg/Beas/JuJuan J
D Howard/draft pick
Pierce/Green

How does that team not compete in a big way, now and in the future?

+1000

TP

Holy Moley! This'd be something, wouldn't it?

[Chris]

I could definitely see Ainge bringing in Beasley, then trying to turn around and say to D Howard

"There. Now we got Rondo, a healthy Green coming back, and we got the bird rights to bring back Beas. Plus we have two draft picks and Paul Pierce. KG and Ray say they'll come back for a lot less money if you come here. That gives us

Rondo/Avery
Ray/draft pick/E Moore
Kg/Beas/JuJuan J
D Howard/draft pick
Pierce/Green

How does that team not compete in a big way, now and in the future?

Unfortunately, the money doesn't work.  In order to sign Howard, we would have to waive the Bird Rights to pretty much everyone, so we would have to resign them all as unrestricted free agents with remaining cap space after signing Howard.  And we would have less than $10 million (and that is very generous...it is probably closer to 7 or 8 after cap holds) to sign Ray, KG, Green and Beasley.

[Eja117]

I could definitely see Ainge bringing in Beasley, then trying to turn around and say to D Howard

"There. Now we got Rondo, a healthy Green coming back, and we got the bird rights to bring back Beas. Plus we have two draft picks and Paul Pierce. KG and Ray say they'll come back for a lot less money if you come here. That gives us

Rondo/Avery
Ray/draft pick/E Moore
Kg/Beas/JuJuan J
D Howard/draft pick
Pierce/Green

How does that team not compete in a big way, now and in the future?

Unfortunately, the money doesn't work.  In order to sign Howard, we would have to waive the Bird Rights to pretty much everyone, so we would have to resign them all as unrestricted free agents with remaining cap space after signing Howard.  And we would have less than $10 million (and that is very generous...it is probably closer to 7 or 8 after cap holds) to sign Ray, KG, Green and Beasley.

Wait a second. 

The first thing you do is sign D Howard right?  We have enough to do that, right?
Then you can sign Beas, right?
Then you can give out pretty low contracts to KG and Ray, right? Especially with JON and Bass also gone, right?
So I guess you can't bring back Green in this situation, but you can do the rest, right?

[pennant_fever]

Going in a slightly different direction, what about something like this?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7uzn3f2

The Carmelo-Howard trade was sort of rejected off hand as leaving those teams weak at some positions (NY weak at SF and ORL weak at C). We know that Danny likes to jump into deals. What if the Celtics could take the Knicks excess here (Chandler would be out with Howard and Amare) and send back a SF, while also providing the Magic with a serviceable big man to get them through the rest of the year?

Maybe MIN's interest in JO is gone with the latest injury news, and I'm not sure why they were interested in the first place, but this might be interesting. I certainly see a bunch of holes in this (why would MIN do this? would the Magic really want to trade for a disgruntled Carmelo? would the Knicks really deal away a superstar who likes playing in NY?), but this is just an attempt to put some of these rumors together in a way that might make a little sense. If the things that have been discussed so far have a little truth to them, this could be a scenario.

Thoughts?

[2dark]

Why is this stickied?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Going in a slightly different direction, what about something like this?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7uzn3f2

The Carmelo-Howard trade was sort of rejected off hand as leaving those teams weak at some positions (NY weak at SF and ORL weak at C). We know that Danny likes to jump into deals. What if the Celtics could take the Knicks excess here (Chandler would be out with Howard and Amare) and send back a SF, while also providing the Magic with a serviceable big man to get them through the rest of the year?

Maybe MIN's interest in JO is gone with the latest injury news, and I'm not sure why they were interested in the first place, but this might be interesting. I certainly see a bunch of holes in this (why would MIN do this? would the Magic really want to trade for a disgruntled Carmelo? would the Knicks really deal away a superstar who likes playing in NY?), but this is just an attempt to put some of these rumors together in a way that might make a little sense. If the things that have been discussed so far have a little truth to them, this could be a scenario.

Thoughts?

Thoughts...



I see no reason as to how New York and Orlando doing this as the Celtics would win this trade. Carmelo and Chandler for Howard? And Chandler goes to the Celtics for Wilcox and Dooling (even if you include the Celtics' pick this is still a very bad trade for the Magic)?

[j804]

Why is this stickied?

Yea was thinking the same thing

[LooseCannon]

I could definitely see Ainge bringing in Beasley, then trying to turn around and say to D Howard

"There. Now we got Rondo, a healthy Green coming back, and we got the bird rights to bring back Beas. Plus we have two draft picks and Paul Pierce. KG and Ray say they'll come back for a lot less money if you come here. That gives us

Rondo/Avery
Ray/draft pick/E Moore
Kg/Beas/JuJuan J
D Howard/draft pick
Pierce/Green

How does that team not compete in a big way, now and in the future?

Unfortunately, the money doesn't work.  In order to sign Howard, we would have to waive the Bird Rights to pretty much everyone, so we would have to resign them all as unrestricted free agents with remaining cap space after signing Howard.  And we would have less than $10 million (and that is very generous...it is probably closer to 7 or 8 after cap holds) to sign Ray, KG, Green and Beasley.

Wait a second. 

The first thing you do is sign D Howard right?  We have enough to do that, right?
Then you can sign Beas, right?
Then you can give out pretty low contracts to KG and Ray, right? Especially with JON and Bass also gone, right?
So I guess you can't bring back Green in this situation, but you can do the rest, right?

Well, let's say Rondo, Pierce, Bradley and Johnson are your roster for roughly 30 million, with no Bass, as he either declines his option or gets traded.  I've heard estimates of the salary cap for next season ranging from $58m to $62m.  Beasley's qualifying offer for next season is $8m and his cap hold $12m.  Let's say he takes the qualifying offer.  Since I don't feel like looking it up to get the exact number, let's say Dwight Howard gets $18m.  That's $56m.  Another $1m as a cap hold for the first round pick you don't trade for Beasley.  With roster charges of about 500K for empty spots, if the cap is $60 million, you have approximately zero cap space for Garnett, Allen, or Green, and can sign one of them to the "room" exception for teams below the cap which I think is about $2.5m.

The one work-around I have come up with is to waive Marquis Daniels before the last game and sign Green to a minimum contract so that he has a tiny cap hold that you don't have to renounce and you can have Green plus your choice of either Garnett or Allen, if either is willing to play for under $3m, both if one of them is willing to play for the minimum.  If Garnett were renounced then signed to a one-year contract, the Celtics would have their Bird rights again in 2013.

If Dwight Howard came to Boston, I'd rather keep that draft pick and split the money between Garnett and Allen rather than trade for Beasley, but I'd do the trade if it was necessary for Howard to want to be a Celtic.

[ThaPreacher]

Boston should grab Beasley while he's available.  If it costs them a first rounder, so be it!  The Clips pick looks like a late first rounder atm. Package that up with Jermaine O'Neal all it a day!

Beasley is young.  He's talented.  He can score: bags and buckets!

Jermain O'Neal.  He's old.  He is no longer talented.  And he hasn't scored on or off the court in a while!

[Lioney]

Bass now starter.

JO is '-14 min.- backup center'.

Yeah I now Beasley not perfect;

But, Why are we waiting? Can we get Harden or Terry?!