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Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2012, 07:03:29 PM »

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Low risj high reward depending on what we have to give up. If we can trade JO for him i do it in a heartbeat.

Exactly.

If we give a 2012 1st rounder the risk out weighs the reward for me.

Someone always slides in a draft the better the draft the more likely there's good value late.

Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2012, 07:35:56 PM »

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Mike will be an all-star in this league wherever he is when he finally grows up.

Won't be with Rondo's laconic influence, but it could be here.
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Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2012, 07:42:01 PM »

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beasley is just a vicitm of bad circumstances

he was the man & projected 1st overall pick for most of his freshman year in college untill rose had abreakout march madness

he went to a team with Dwade a year in which dwade lef the league in scoring & they played him at PF when he was a SF that was doomed from the get

he had an ookay year last year when he was finally getting minutes but he & love wasnt good enough & the got the 2nd overall pick in derick williams who is a mirror image of beasley in terms of thier style of play

i trade the clips 1st rounder easy becuase thats going to be a pick in the mid 20's no player in the mid 20's will be better or has the potential to be better than micheal beasley

now if its OUR pick im hesistant but i probably still do it

next year(if we resign him) he;ll flurish being the number 1 scorer for us rondo is the kinda guy that can help beasley out ALOT

i hope danny gets this deal done ASAP!

Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2012, 07:44:48 PM »

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Mike will be an all-star in this league wherever he is when he finally grows up.

Won't be with Rondo's laconic influence, but it could be here.

lol...

If he can't turn into an all-star (or even decent) player with Love, Rubio, and Aldeman around him, then Rondo's "bad influence" won't even matter at that point.

Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2012, 07:57:53 PM »

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I'm not in love with the idea of giving up a #1 for him.  If it's JO + cash, it's a no-brainer to me.

The thing for me is I'm fine with giving up the Clippers pick for him if we can be sure we'll have him for more than the rest of the season.  But are we gonna have to let him walk this summer because he's gonna get more money than we're willing to give him (8 million a year or more)?  I'd be worried about giving up a first for that.
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Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2012, 07:59:20 PM »

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I'm not in love with the idea of giving up a #1 for him.  If it's JO + cash, it's a no-brainer to me.

If its the Clippers pick then I would still do it. You have to figure that even when the hype dies down in "Lob City" the Clippers are at worst a 2nd round exit. So you essentially deal the 22-27th pick for a guy who averaged almost 20 points a game last year. That's not a bad deal at all. Beasley can act as the 6th man for the rest of the year and give the Celtics what they wanted from Jeff Green. I like it

Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2012, 08:01:30 PM »

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Mike will be an all-star in this league wherever he is when he finally grows up.

Won't be with Rondo's laconic influence, but it could be here.

lol...

If he can't turn into an all-star (or even decent) player with Love, Rubio, and Aldeman around him, then Rondo's "bad influence" won't even matter at that point.

For what its worth, hes never been around veterans like KG and Ray Allen since he left Miami. Even then he still had that hardcore Miami party scene that he obviously couldn't handle.

Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2012, 08:37:43 PM »

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So is Beasley a 3 or a 4?  If he is a 4 isn't he in a logjam behind kg/bass/wilcox?  I have a hard time believing he would start in front of Bass?  Am I missing something?

How about next year when Jeff Green hopefully returns.  PP / JG then Beasley?  Is everyone thinking KG is done after this year and he could start at the 4?

To me, we need a center a true 5 that can score, but also rebound and play defense.  Kind of what we want JO to be, but he doesn't give us.

Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2012, 08:44:44 PM »

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So is Beasley a 3 or a 4?  If he is a 4 isn't he in a logjam behind kg/bass/wilcox?  I have a hard time believing he would start in front of Bass?  Am I missing something?

How about next year when Jeff Green hopefully returns.  PP / JG then Beasley?  Is everyone thinking KG is done after this year and he could start at the 4?

To me, we need a center a true 5 that can score, but also rebound and play defense.  Kind of what we want JO to be, but he doesn't give us.

well, if the celtics had Beasley, Green(even Bass) next year...thats alot of assets that you could trade..

Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2012, 09:37:44 PM »

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So is Beasley a 3 or a 4?  If he is a 4 isn't he in a logjam behind kg/bass/wilcox?  I have a hard time believing he would start in front of Bass?  Am I missing something?

How about next year when Jeff Green hopefully returns.  PP / JG then Beasley?  Is everyone thinking KG is done after this year and he could start at the 4?

To me, we need a center a true 5 that can score, but also rebound and play defense.  Kind of what we want JO to be, but he doesn't give us.

I'd take it that Pierce would be gone.

Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2012, 09:53:55 PM »

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Really, people wouldn't give up a late 1st rounder for Beasley? Yes, the kid has problems but if you've actually watched him play (which I suspect quite a few of you haven't), his offensive talent is really undeniable. He has the tools to become a perennial All-Star.

He's always been on the immature side, but look at the situations he's been put in. He started his career with the Heat - a notoriously immature guy in South frickin' Beach? Did anyone expect that to end well?

Then he got moved to Minnesota. Last season, pre-Rick Adelman, that was a team going nowhere. No direction, just praying for Rubio and riding Kevin Love as much as possible. Still, Beas averaged 19 pts last year. This year, he's taken a step back following the loss of his starting role after being out with a foot injury. But he's still got the talent to be a great player in this league. If Minny wants JO + the Clips' first for him, you do that deal. See if he and Rondo can be kindred - albeit flawed - spirits; Beasley won't hesitate to shoot the ball so he can be the go-to scorer we'll need down the line should Rondo remain a Celtics.

Worst case scenario: it doesn't work and we sign-and-trade him this offseason. Best case: he flourishes here and we have ourselves a building block for the future.
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Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2012, 10:04:20 PM »

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I see no reason to make this trade. Beasley does not help us win another banner this year. He is not good enough to start on a Wolves team that has Wesley Johnson at the 3 so he backups the 3 and 4. Beasley is due a 8.1 Million Qualifying Offer next year just to stay around and play backup minutes for PP and some backup minutes at the 4, I'm going to pass. The best thing the Celtics have going for them next year are draft picks and cap flexibly; neither of which I would trade or give-up to have Beasley.

I also prefer Bass to Beasley at the 4 and I think we can get Bass for a better deal.

Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2012, 10:09:35 PM »

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I see no reason to make this trade. Beasley does not help us win another banner this year. He is not good enough to start on a Wolves team that has Wesley Johnson at the 3 so he backups the 3 and 4. Beasley is due a 8.1 Million Qualifying Offer next year just to stay around and play backup minutes for PP and some backup minutes at the 4, I'm going to pass. The best thing the Celtics have going for them next year are draft picks and cap flexibly; neither of which I would trade or give-up to have Beasley.

I also prefer Bass to Beasley at the 4 and I think we can get Bass for a better deal.

its about having assets though...like danny said, the moves they make may be pre-cursers to a larger move.

if Danny re-signs Green and has Beasley's bird rights...thats two top 5 picks that he can maybe turn into something through a sign and trade...

and beasley could help us this year more than JO is going to..

Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2012, 10:09:38 PM »

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Really, people wouldn't give up a late 1st rounder for Beasley?

Well, for clarification, some people don't want to give up a 1st rounder for 30 games of free-agent-to-be Beasley.  If we hit on the right draft pick, we have a talented rotation player who is cost-controlled on a cheap deal for several seasons.  If we hit on Beasley, we still have to pay him somewhere between $5 and $8 million per season, most likely.


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Re: Michael beasley...Low Risk, High reward
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2012, 10:09:57 PM »

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Mike will be an all-star in this league wherever he is when he finally grows up.

Won't be with Rondo's laconic influence, but it could be here.

lol...

If he can't turn into an all-star (or even decent) player with Love, Rubio, and Aldeman around him, then Rondo's "bad influence" won't even matter at that point.

For what its worth, hes never been around veterans like KG and Ray Allen since he left Miami. Even then he still had that hardcore Miami party scene that he obviously couldn't handle.
True. The simplistic view that you quote fails entirely to take Mike's personality into account: He is impressionable and immature, and vulnerable to other immaturity around him to lead him astray, whether that be lazy habits on the floor - see Rondo - or even worse behavior off the floor.

Mike's at risk in Boston with Rondo's petulance. However, Garnett and Allen would be very positive influences on him, and it would fall to them and the Captain to keep him away from other teammates who could lead him into bad habits. He is most assuredly going to blossom somewhere. If he doesn't fall in with the "play one day, take three off" mentality and falls in with the work ethic of the Big 3, it could very well be in Boston. Most definitely worth the risk of a draft pick, IMHO.
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