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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2012, 09:14:12 PM »

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Not a fan of this trade.  Nelson is a minus and Anderson is good role player.
17/7 is not a role player.
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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2012, 09:19:24 PM »

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Boston gets Ryan Anderson, Jameer Nelson
Orlando gets Monta Ellis
Golden State gets Rajon Rondo

Clearly Nelson is a downgrade from Rondo, but he is still a former all star, but Anderson looks like he might be a monster. 

Orlando has a lot of money invested in Davis and desperately needs another scorer like Ellis to pair with Howard.  Also there are reports that Howard doesn't like Nelson, so that might help in that regard as well. 

Golden State gets a superb defensive PG and can allow Curry to slide over to SG (which would be fine against most teams). 


Seems like a fairly even trade for all three teams, though I'm not sure Orlando would want to get rid of Anderson for Ellis unless they were sure it would really affect Howard's decision in the positive.




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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2012, 09:22:08 PM »

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Not a fan of this trade.  Nelson is a minus and Anderson is good role player.
Ryan Anderson? The current 3 pointers made leader by a large margin, averaging 16 ppg, 7 rpg, and should be a borderline all star if not one next year?
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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2012, 09:32:48 PM »

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Ryan Anderson is a billionaire's Matt Bonner.

Which is nice and everything, but no, he's not going to be an All-Star.
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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2012, 09:37:14 PM »

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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2012, 10:01:57 PM »

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Boston gets Ryan Anderson, Jameer Nelson
Orlando gets Monta Ellis
Golden State gets Rajon Rondo

Clearly Nelson is a downgrade from Rondo, but he is still a former all star, but Anderson looks like he might be a monster.  

Orlando has a lot of money invested in Davis and desperately needs another scorer like Ellis to pair with Howard.  Also there are reports that Howard doesn't like Nelson, so that might help in that regard as well.  

Golden State gets a superb defensive PG and can allow Curry to slide over to SG (which would be fine against most teams).  


Seems like a fairly even trade for all three teams, though I'm not sure Orlando would want to get rid of Anderson for Ellis unless they were sure it would really affect Howard's decision in the positive.

All due respect...Anderson couldn't stop his mother from scoring. Knowing [dang] well she can't go to her left.

Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2012, 10:02:49 PM »

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Not a fan of this trade.  Nelson is a minus and Anderson is good role player.
Ryan Anderson? The current 3 pointers made leader by a large margin, averaging 16 ppg, 7 rpg, and should be a borderline all star if not one next year?
Yep and at 43.3% to boot.  He is also 2nd in the league in offensive rating and 3rd in offensive win shares.  As pure offensive players go there are very few better in all of basketball.
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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2012, 02:41:11 AM »

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That's a bad trade for Boston. Rondo SHOULD NOT be traded unless it's for a package that includes an all star level talent or an all star player in his prime.

I have the same standard, but I think that Anderson actually fits that standard.
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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2012, 02:48:20 AM »

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Not a fan of this trade.  Nelson is a minus and Anderson is good role player.
Ryan Anderson? The current 3 pointers made leader by a large margin, averaging 16 ppg, 7 rpg, and should be a borderline all star if not one next year?
Yep and at 43.3% to boot.  He is also 2nd in the league in offensive rating and 3rd in offensive win shares.  As pure offensive players go there are very few better in all of basketball.

As long as he's playing next to Dwight Howard (or someone similar), he's probably a very valuable player.  Otherwise, I'm not too wild about him as a player.
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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2012, 06:24:42 AM »

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Not a fan of this trade.  Nelson is a minus and Anderson is good role player.
Ryan Anderson? The current 3 pointers made leader by a large margin, averaging 16 ppg, 7 rpg, and should be a borderline all star if not one next year?
Yep and at 43.3% to boot.  He is also 2nd in the league in offensive rating and 3rd in offensive win shares.  As pure offensive players go there are very few better in all of basketball.

As long as he's playing next to Dwight Howard (or someone similar), he's probably a very valuable player.  Otherwise, I'm not too wild about him as a player.
He has gotten better each year in the league. 

And why just assume playing next to Dwight is helpful.  Bass played next Dwight for years, look how much better he is this year away from Dwight.  Big Baby Davis goes from a fairly useful role player to terrible when he plays next to Dwight.  Past history says playing next to Dwight is actually a detriment.
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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2012, 08:04:08 AM »

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I'd say that Anderson surpasses Rashard Lewis in his prime as the best player who has played next to Dwight Howard.  I wouldn't give him Rashard Lewis money, but anything under $12m/year seem like a bargain to me.
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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2012, 08:59:10 AM »

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Ryan Anderson, is better then "just a role player". He with continued development will be a boarder line all-star/great 3rd or 4th option on a high level team. I see him as a similar level player to a T Prince or Shane Battier in there prime (not style wise just level of nba player. If super stars are A+ player' Perennial all-stars are A players, and sometimes all-stars at A-, then I say Ryan anderson is in that B+ range. He could make 1 or 2 all-star games when he hits his prime in the nab 25-29.

I would love if we signed him as a FA.
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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2012, 09:39:34 AM »

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Not a fan of this trade.  Nelson is a minus and Anderson is good role player.
17/7 is not a role player.


Yes it is. 


He is not a star.


He is a good role player that has found a team that he fits so well in. 

Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2012, 09:31:20 PM »

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Not a fan of this trade.  Nelson is a minus and Anderson is good role player.
17/7 is not a role player.


Yes it is. 


He is not a star.


He is a good role player that has found a team that he fits so well in. 
I agree he isn't a star, but he is a lot more than a role player.

You aren't a role player when you are one of the most efficient offensive players in the game with as many shots as he gets and then add in over 7 boards a game.
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Re: ORL/BOS/GS - 3 team
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2012, 09:40:03 PM »

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Not a fan of this trade.  Nelson is a minus and Anderson is good role player.
17/7 is not a role player.


Yes it is. 


He is not a star.


He is a good role player that has found a team that he fits so well in. 

He's a player capable of star-level production who will be under-rated by some people because they associate stardom with volume scorers who can play iso-ball, whether efficient or not. That's ok.  There are people who seemed to think Ray Allen was really just a glorified role player who happened to be really, really good at hitting threes and didn't see him as a Hall of Fame talent until he won a title with the Celtics and started approaching the three point record.
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