Celtics Still Considering Curry for Rondo - Broussard, Insider

[cman88]

Soo according to gary washburn..they are discussing possible deals that would include rondo...but they maintain they are NOT dumping him..

So really they are seeing what value they can get for him and if danny doesn't see a deal he likes rondo will stay....and considering we have heard this the last 4 trade deadlines this is a non story IMO

I'm sure danny is doing this with every player..and honestly if he's not getting an allstar in return..I say don't do it.

[Moranis]

I'd probably do Curry and Biedrins for Rondo, though I'm not sure Golden State would do that without also wanting Bass (which works as well - though that is a harder pill to swallow).  I would definitely need big time medicals for both Curry and Biedrins before doing the trade though as both have had a lot of injury issues (of course Rondo isn't exactly a picture of health either).  I just looked and Biedrins is only 25, but he has been hurt a lot.  If he can get healthy, I think he can go back to the Biedrins of old (the double double guy), but I have no idea if he can get healthy again.

Beans' problems is not really injuries, but confidence. I don't know why but after that 2008 breakout season when he averaged a double double in rebounds and points and being efficient he just went down south fast. Beans can run the floor on on certain nights play good defense. This is pretty much the offer as GSW would need to match salaries anyway. The gamble is to take Beans is his confidence, or lack there of, and that 9 million dollar contract for 3 more years. 

08-09 he was a double double machine though played in just 62 games.  The next season he played in just 33 games and followed that up with 59 games last year.  That is why he his numbers have gone down, he is always hurt.

[BballTim]

I'd probably do Curry and Biedrins for Rondo, though I'm not sure Golden State would do that without also wanting Bass (which works as well - though that is a harder pill to swallow).  I would definitely need big time medicals for both Curry and Biedrins before doing the trade though as both have had a lot of injury issues (of course Rondo isn't exactly a picture of health either).  I just looked and Biedrins is only 25, but he has been hurt a lot.  If he can get healthy, I think he can go back to the Biedrins of old (the double double guy), but I have no idea if he can get healthy again.

  If many people thought he could go back to being a double double machine GS wouldn't be trying to unload him, they'd be entertaining offers  for him if he was available at all.

[Rondo2287]

Just a heads up, Marc Stein is about to be on WEEI talking NBA Trades

[Lioney]

Curry's ankle injury is a big problem. If you get Curry, you need a backup plan. I think Kirk is best option for backup plan. Curry and Kirk works for me, if we do this...

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=79gn9gz

This year; Curry-Ray-Pierce-Bass-KG(Bradley-Kirk-Pietrus-Wilcox) and maybe Beasley.

IMO Beasley good for us. I love Green. He is more disciplined player than Beasley and more useful player for a team like Celtics. He has been injuried for a few months and he wont be able to play for more a few months. This is a big loss for a player and it's going to take time for him to recover and give his best to team. Green is not a -Birt Rights- player. Giving much money to a player who has been injuried for a long time is a gamble and he can choose to go another team next year because he is a unrestricted player. If we get Beasley then he gives us leverage for next year to negotiate or in case Celtics cant make a deal with Green. And I believe KG, Pierce and Ray may be a good mentors for Beasley.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7alnceb

This is a better option for us.

Next year; Rondo gets $11M next year, Curry $4M

http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/1/27/2752081/how-much-money-do-we-have-for-free-agents-anyway

Give Kirk $4M(Ridnour, Blake, Farmar, Barea)3-4 year contract.

Curry 4
Kirk 4
Pierce 17
Pietrus 2,5
Bradley 1,5
Howard 20

and our -Bird Rights- player Ray-KG.

+Green(or Beasley $8M)...

= $57M for next year.

Bradley-Kirk-Pietrus-KG-DH, these are five good defensive players and we have Curry, Ray, Pierce, Beasley(or Green). IMO this team have potential to dominate NBA.

And there is a thing that i dont understand. Why Celtics wont allowed to offer MLE contract to a player next year?

[Rondo2287]

Marc Stein says the celtics shouldnt trade rondo for curry due to health

[CelticG1]

I wish rondo played like he did last night more often. Oviously don't expect him to average a trip double every game but prob at least 4 of those boards he stole from other guys or got it tipped by another player.

  In other words he grabbed some of the rebounds our opponents have been getting.

Relax I know you get jumpy about Rondo.

Triple doubles are the greatest thing ever!!!!! Rondo EARNED every single assist and rebound in that game!!!! His passes that led to us getting free throws don't mean anything!!! Its all about the assist numbers!!!

[Cman]

Curry's ankle injury is a big problem. If you get Curry, you need a backup plan. I think Kirk is best option for backup plan. Curry and Kirk works for me, if we do this...

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=79gn9gz

This year; Curry-Ray-Pierce-Bass-KG(Bradley-Kirk-Pietrus-Wilcox) and maybe Beasley.

IMO Beasley good for us. I love Green. He is more disciplined player than Beasley and more useful player for a team like Celtics. He has been injuried for a few months and he wont be able to play for more a few months. This is a big loss for a player and it's going to take time for him to recover and give his best to team. Green is not a -Birt Rights- player. Giving much money to a player who has been injuried for a long time is a gamble and he can choose to go another team next year because he is a unrestricted player. If we get Beasley then he gives us leverage for next year to negotiate or in case Celtics cant make a deal with Green. And I believe KG, Pierce and Ray may be a good mentors for Beasley.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7alnceb

This is a better option for us.

Next year; Rondo gets $11M next year, Curry $4M

http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/1/27/2752081/how-much-money-do-we-have-for-free-agents-anyway

Give Kirk $4M(Ridnour, Blake, Farmar, Barea)3-4 year contract.

Curry 4
Kirk 4
Pierce 17
Pietrus 2,5
Bradley 1,5
Howard 20

and our -Bird Rights- player Ray-KG.

+Green(or Beasley $8M)...

= $57M for next year.

Bradley-Kirk-Pietrus-KG-DH, these are five good defensive players and we have Curry, Ray, Pierce, Beasley(or Green). IMO this team have potential to dominate NBA.

And there is a thing that i dont understand. Why Celtics wont allowed to offer MLE contract to a player next year?

I also like Kirk Hinrich, but the Cs could get him as a FA over the summer, so no need to trade for him now, IMHO.

Also, in order to sign all those free agents you listed above, the Cs would have to renounce their rights to KG and Ray Allen. And they could be (would be) wooed away by another team.

Put more succinctly, signing Howard in the offseason almost certainly means the Cs don't resign KG and Ray.

[BballTim]

I wish rondo played like he did last night more often. Oviously don't expect him to average a trip double every game but prob at least 4 of those boards he stole from other guys or got it tipped by another player.

  In other words he grabbed some of the rebounds our opponents have been getting.

Relax I know you get jumpy about Rondo.

Triple doubles are the greatest thing ever!!!!! Rondo EARNED every single assist and rebound in that game!!!! His passes that led to us getting free throws don't mean anything!!! Its all about the assist numbers!!!

  I think you may have used more exclamation points in one post than I've used my entire time on this blog. Congrats on that.

[Moranis]

I'd probably do Curry and Biedrins for Rondo, though I'm not sure Golden State would do that without also wanting Bass (which works as well - though that is a harder pill to swallow).  I would definitely need big time medicals for both Curry and Biedrins before doing the trade though as both have had a lot of injury issues (of course Rondo isn't exactly a picture of health either).  I just looked and Biedrins is only 25, but he has been hurt a lot.  If he can get healthy, I think he can go back to the Biedrins of old (the double double guy), but I have no idea if he can get healthy again.

  If many people thought he could go back to being a double double machine GS wouldn't be trying to unload him, they'd be entertaining offers  for him if he was available at all.

I don't think anyone thinks he can go back to that, because I don't think anyone believes he will ever get healthy enough to do it.  He is still pretty darn young though, so you never know.

[CFAN38]

I would not want Ellis, Currys ankles scare me

[CelticG1]

I wish rondo played like he did last night more often. Oviously don't expect him to average a trip double every game but prob at least 4 of those boards he stole from other guys or got it tipped by another player.

  In other words he grabbed some of the rebounds our opponents have been getting.

Relax I know you get jumpy about Rondo.

Triple doubles are the greatest thing ever!!!!! Rondo EARNED every single assist and rebound in that game!!!! His passes that led to us getting free throws don't mean anything!!! Its all about the assist numbers!!!

  I think you may have used more exclamation points in one post than I've used my entire time on this blog. Congrats on that.

Thanks!!!!

[indeedproceed]

I would not want Ellis, Currys ankles scare me

For me, its spiders. And leaches. Man I hate leaches.

[soap07]

  You're right that Curry is a better shooter than Rondo. But Rondo's better at defense, rebounding, passing, directing an offense, controlling the pace of the game and getting to the hoop. Those things all matter too, believe it or not. Oh, and it's not 2008 anymore, Rondo isn't playing with three people who can score 20 a night efficiently, he's playing with three people who used to be able to do that.

Yeah,I love when you run out of superlatives to describe Rondo so you just say multiple things that mean the same thing...in this case, controlling the pace of the game and directing an offense.

Rondo is so much better than Curry at directing an offense that Curry's team is 7th in the league in offensive efficiency and Rondo's team is 23rd (!!). Who cares if Rondo is better at getting to the hoop when Curry is a better scorer overall?

[Corey]

Curry is younger, more talented individually on the offensive end, and he isn't a malcontent. I'd absolutely love him in a trade for Rondo.

Rondo isn't a piece you can build around moving forward. He's a good complimentary player. His offensive inefficiencies make it impossible for him to be a top 3 option on the offensive end. Curry is much better in that regard.

The only major difference between Rondo's rookie year and this year (and all the years in between) is that he's gradually taking more shots per game. His conversion rates on these shots is generally the same.

His rookie year he shot 33% from 3-9 feet. This year he's shooting 33% from 3-9 feet.

His rookie year he shot 41% from 10-15 feet. This year he's shooting 40% from 10-15 feet.

His sophomore year he shot 43% from 16-23 feet. This year he's shooting 42% from 16-23 feet.

His best 3pt shooting year was in 2009 at 31%. This year he's back down to 25%.

His free throw percentages arent getting any better.