How exactly do the Celtics score points if we get Dwight?

[RajonRondo9Dime]

Yeah, but try this:

we get Howard and send him to OKC for Durant and Harden. They would still have Westbrook + Dwight.

I think it's pretty fair... And we could throw in a draft pick for Harden's beard, to make it worth..

OKC is never going to trade Kevin Durant.

Yeah, but it's DH we're talkin about.

OKC is NEVER going to trade Durant. Durant is unstoppable and can score from anywhere. Howard? Well, he's stoppable. He's a great player, but you don't trade a top 2 player for him.

  I don't think that OKC makes the trade, but one could easily argue that Howard's the better player of the two, at least right not. Howard's not an unstoppable scorer, but wake me up the next time Durant wins a rebounding title or DPOY.

In an NBA draft, I'll take Durant over Howard 100 times out of a 100..

A scoring forward/big guard (Kobe, LeBron, Michael, Wade, ect) is more valuable than Howard, IMO.

Howard is limited offensively, can't make free throws, and is not a player you go to late in games, obviously.

Durant? He's the exact opposite. Durant can put a team on his shoulders and score from anywhere. Howard cant.

[chambers]

by giving him the ball under the hoop.

By his 15 rebounds per game combined with KG's 7 or 8.
JO is a great defender, but he can't rebound because he has zero lift and can't get position quick enough under the hoop.

I think JO averages 4 or 5 rebounds a game.

Dwight Howard is like the ultimate version of Kendrick Perkins.
Defensive beast but can score 20 a game and rebounds anything.

[RayAllen4Three]

Dwight Howard did lead his team to a Championship Finals appearance...

[Roy H.]

I think you might be over-thinking things here.  Dwight is a top-five scorer among centers, and Deron is a top-five scorer among PGs.

Having Dwight and Deron would lead to more offensive rebounds, it would lead to more mid-range space for our shooters, etc.  We'd have somebody who could consistently convert down low, and a PG who could consistently shoot from outside.

If we could conceivably run a team out there of Dwight-KG-Pierce-Ray-Deron, I think we'd have a top-5 offense, no matter what the bench.  No team has the defense to shut down all five of those guys.

[Smutzy#9]

Say we get Deron, say we get Dwight. In this case Deron is a better scorer than Rondo. We got a team where Bass is 4, we have no two as Bradley will be second unit's PG, and we got Pierce. That's our first team.

Dwight has his off nights, when he gets dominated by lesser centers. And if he's so great, he can carry the Magic team by himself further than he normally does. The only logical way to build around Dwight is to get shooters, which is what Orlando did. They have better shooters than we ever will. Pierce, Allen, Pietrus. That's all we got, while Orlando has like 10 3 point specialists. However, Dwight isn't really a Superman, he only shoots 55% from the field. Great addition to our rebounding subgroup which consists of exactly 0 players, but he won't get 40 points a game.

Deron Williams, however, might. He's a shooter, he can drive, he can find Dwight very well, make great pick and roll/pop with him. But he's as inconsistent as ever. On a team where Bradley would have 30+ points a night, he can't find a rhythm. Oh, and we count on Dwight striking fear into our opponents to ease up on Deron so that his fragile body doesn't get injured. Yeah, that's like telling LA "We got a better coach, start hailing us". This is only assuming he is a better scorer than Rondo. I am not the only one to think that Rondo would fit better with Dwight, and if he's got a player below the rim who can catch his misses, he'll shoot. A lot. Which still doesn't mean we can get over 100 points a night.

Pierce is uninterested. I stated this over and over and over again. He plays the playoffs and doesn't give much [dang] if he hits or misses in regular season until the season comes to line (as you will be able to witness in a few weeks )
Bass is inconsistent. We have all witnessed that. His shot doesn't always fall, and it's starting to fall so rarely... Pick and pop or pick and roll with him and Dwight is impossible, they two take half the court's width standing next to each other.

As for SG... There aren't shooters in the league. I've had a cute conversation on some European NBA fans' forum about shooters in the league and we found that the only shooters remaining are Ray and Kobe. There aren't good shooting guards in the league right now, they're all inconsistent and pretty much useless. So whoever we get for that position will be just as... useless. And no, Monta Ellis needs the ball 45 minutes a game to score 20. Nothankyou.

So what about the bench? People don't like us that much, players like us even less. We can't get that good players for the bench that can carry us to 100 points a night.

To sum it up, Dwight would have one or two 35+pts nights, Rondo/Deron would do it twice or thrice, Pierce would be uninterested and the rest of the team doesn't really matter, the bench never mattered that much in Boston. I don't see it. I don't see a championship with Dwight.

You have some fantastic up and coming 2 men in Gordon and Harden.

[pearljammer10]

We use Magic.

[Bean_town fan]

We're not getting him so it doesn't matter

[Kane3387]

Unlikely he's in green for sure

[SHAQATTACK]

You mean , how do we score points if we don't get him ?     

[chambers]

Yeah, but try this:

we get Howard and send him to OKC for Durant and Harden. They would still have Westbrook + Dwight.

I think it's pretty fair... And we could throw in a draft pick for Harden's beard, to make it worth..

OKC is never going to trade Kevin Durant.

Yeah, but it's DH we're talkin about.

OKC is NEVER going to trade Durant. Durant is unstoppable and can score from anywhere. Howard? Well, he's stoppable. He's a great player, but you don't trade a top 2 player for him.

  I don't think that OKC makes the trade, but one could easily argue that Howard's the better player of the two, at least right not. Howard's not an unstoppable scorer, but wake me up the next time Durant wins a rebounding title or DPOY.

In an NBA draft, I'll take Durant over Howard 100 times out of a 100..

A scoring forward/big guard (Kobe, LeBron, Michael, Wade, ect) is more valuable than Howard, IMO.

Howard is limited offensively, can't make free throws, and is not a player you go to late in games, obviously.

Durant? He's the exact opposite. Durant can put a team on his shoulders and score from anywhere. Howard cant.

I doubt most NBA GM's take Durant over Howard.
Howard's combination of size and athleticism come around far less than Durants.
I'd say Howard as lived up to high expectations but Durant has surpassed OKC's.

If you look at them as NBA players now, then you could take either.
Durant's supporting cast is much better than Howards, but Howard's combination of defense+rebounding and offense is probably more valuable overall than Durants scoring.

I actually doubt most people would have taken Durant over Howard if they were in the same draft.

[LeoMoreno]

I think you might be over-thinking things here.  Dwight is a top-five scorer among centers, and Deron is a top-five scorer among PGs.

Having Dwight and Deron would lead to more offensive rebounds, it would lead to more mid-range space for our shooters, etc.  We'd have somebody who could consistently convert down low, and a PG who could consistently shoot from outside.

If we could conceivably run a team out there of Dwight-KG-Pierce-Ray-Deron, I think we'd have a top-5 offense, no matter what the bench.  No team has the defense to shut down all five of those guys.

That is if KG and Ray sign for vet's minimum and actually play better than this year. Ironically, we get a huge most of our points from jump shots, but who are our shooters? Ray and Pierce shoot only few times a game, and if they do it more often, they just start missing. Then we can go to our three PF's, but that's kind of ridiculous.

I'm all for the big three, but they just aren't doing what they're supposed to do. Of course, there's always a case where Dwight lifts their spirits so high they become young-like and hungry again (not a sarcasm).

[RockinRyA]

rondo mayo green bass howard? wonder how plausible is that